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I sort of agree with you. However I don't buy the just being lucky argument. We've simply been more ruthless than quite a few of our opponents in the past. Scoring your chances is a big part of football.
Even if we use Neddy's favorite xG it shows that it was pretty close. So according to this stat our chances were fewer but much better in quality.
Even if we use Neddy's favorite xG it shows that it was pretty close. So according to this stat our chances were fewer but much better in quality.
It's not only about opponents bad finishing. Allegri teams usually try to limit the actual quality chances of the opponent. Allegri loves control and by that I don't mean having the ball. I mean slowing the pace of the game down and putting the two blocks of four behind the ball when defending. At our best we did that to great effect under Allegri.
People are free to dislike such tactics, but it doesn't mean that you are somehow less deserving of a win using such tactics. The only real factual thing in football is the scoreline at the end of the game. That is what defines who was the better team. That involves defending, passing, scoring goals, goalkeeping etc.. It's simplistic to only look at who shoots more and has more of the ball, those are only parts of the game.
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I think he'll take a break to wait for managerial positions open up next season.
People are free to dislike such tactics, but it doesn't mean that you are somehow less deserving of a win using such tactics. The only real factual thing in football is the scoreline at the end of the game. That is what defines who was the better team. That involves defending, passing, scoring goals, goalkeeping etc.. It's simplistic to only look at who shoots more and has more of the ball, those are only parts of the game.
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I think he'll take a break to wait for managerial positions open up next season.
Its even more simplistic to look at the score line only and then conclude, who is the better team.
And I do agree that Allegri’s biggest strenght is or at least has been, to set up the defense and hit teams on the counter. Our entire CHL run is his first season was prove of that, the game against Barca away in his 3 year was prove of that, the home game against Barca, when he was still Milan coach, was a Real tactical masterpiece, but you cant seriously watch the game against Tottenham and with a straight face tell me that we controlled that game, and it was some kind of tactical Masterclass performance.
And I do agree that Allegri’s biggest strenght is or at least has been, to set up the defense and hit teams on the counter. Our entire CHL run is his first season was prove of that, the game against Barca away in his 3 year was prove of that, the home game against Barca, when he was still Milan coach, was a Real tactical masterpiece, but you cant seriously watch the game against Tottenham and with a straight face tell me that we controlled that game, and it was some kind of tactical Masterclass performance.
That's what determines the better team though. We can disagree on how that should be accomplished, but in the end it doesn't change the fact that the point of football is to score more than your opponent and that's how the winner is decided. Better team is the one who is better at accomplishing that. The problem is that some can't accept this in today's football. People only accept the tiki-taka possession based football and don't give any credit to teams/managers who play a different style even if they accomplish better results.
You are right on the Tottenham game, we certainly didn't control the game like Allegri wants. That was our biggest problem in some games during some of the games during the last two years. We used to be completely dominant in controlling games. I remember stretches of games where the opponents didn't have any chances to score, yet people fail to acknowledge how dominant Allegri made us.
You are right on the Tottenham game, we certainly didn't control the game like Allegri wants. That was our biggest problem in some games during some of the games during the last two years. We used to be completely dominant in controlling games. I remember stretches of games where the opponents didn't have any chances to score, yet people fail to acknowledge how dominant Allegri made us.
I really dont agree on this. The better side is the most dominant controlling side in the match. I do realise its a question of definition though, but if your are the more dominant controlling side odds are you are going to be more succesfull in the long run.
Personally I like more possesion based attacking football, than what was normal under Allegri, but that does not mean I dont rate him as a coach, or dont recognise that he did a fantastic job here on the large scale.
Personally I like more possesion based attacking football, than what was normal under Allegri, but that does not mean I dont rate him as a coach, or dont recognise that he did a fantastic job here on the large scale.
To me it looks like the management want to transition the club away from the setereotypical defensive approach of Italian football and move to a more modern way of playing with quicker transitions and higher pressing with the names being linked to the club
It really will not be an easy transition and will take some years before I think we successfully implement something like that and I think future managers will be picked on that style as well but if it fails in the next few years I have no doubt Allegri will be on the bench again as he's a guaranteed bet on winning and keeping consistency
It really will not be an easy transition and will take some years before I think we successfully implement something like that and I think future managers will be picked on that style as well but if it fails in the next few years I have no doubt Allegri will be on the bench again as he's a guaranteed bet on winning and keeping consistency
It’s much simpler than that actually. The club wants to conquer Europe.
But if they hire Sarri then they are content with conquering Italy and collecting TV revenues from knockout stage runs in the CL.
If that’s the case then it confirms that the club is being run the way it should be. Despite my conflicting views as a fan.
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But if they hire Sarri then they are content with conquering Italy and collecting TV revenues from knockout stage runs in the CL.
If that’s the case then it confirms that the club is being run the way it should be. Despite my conflicting views as a fan.
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Well you could be right but in my opinion I think the change of the style of play is the main reason for changing Allegri
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Ajax have a very good team, maybe might have been a surprise at the time but looking at them now they have some top players in that team that could play for any top club
The lack of identity and any sort of attacking gameplan is why I think Allegri was let go, with Juve in Europe you didn't know what team was going to turn up or how they would approach the game so for me that is why we are linked with these attacking coaches because you know exactly how the team will play and what they will be trying to do
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Ajax have a very good team, maybe might have been a surprise at the time but looking at them now they have some top players in that team that could play for any top club
The lack of identity and any sort of attacking gameplan is why I think Allegri was let go, with Juve in Europe you didn't know what team was going to turn up or how they would approach the game so for me that is why we are linked with these attacking coaches because you know exactly how the team will play and what they will be trying to do
I think style has played a big part in our domination. We've been able to change our style for those past eight seasons when needed which has made us unpredictable. The problem is that there are plenty of people on this forum that only understand and accept one particular style of football. Having said that this seems to be a common theme among your usual football fans.
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