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Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
22,600
“There are no better options”

I’m struggling to think of many managers who could possibly play worse football with Ronaldo, Mandzukic, Dybala, Costa, Bernardeschi, Cuadrado, Pjanic, Cancelo, Sandro and Spinazzola in their team.

In the past, Allegri apologists defend his eye-soring style of play by claiming “results over entertainment”.

Well in Europe we have neither results nor entertainment, so what’s the point of Allegri?
Costa, he has been awful throughout most of the season and he got plenty of chances to turn this season around. Cuad was injured in crucial part of the season and we missed that bit of unpredictability he brings to the table. Spina? Wtf why would u even bring him up. Cancelo's 2nd part of the season hssnt been as good. I think bc of injury he needs more time. The last time AS had a good season was few years ago etc... ur bringing up Mario now, but arent u criticizing him often for his lack of involvement in our play? :p

Its a good team and there is decent amount of talent in our squad, but we fall short compared to some of previous squads we had and still hadnt won CL back then. Bc it has a lot of variables and a lot of things can go wrong, injuries, suspensions and its nothing like league competition where 99% of the times the best team wins. So there isnt and can never be guarantees for CL success. We simply lost against better team last night, sharper, more eager, younger and more motivated opponent. No shame in that. Happens all the time.
 

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Clamarc

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Sep 26, 2018
1,873
Also, Allegri gets fat too much credit for winning the Serie A every year. Conte won the league with 102 points in his last season here. Allegri took over the best squad in Italy and five years later we still have the best squad in Italy (by far).

We can replace Allegri with any decent coach and we will probably continue to win Serie A, because our team is so much more talented than everyone else. It would take an exceptionally retarded coach not to win this joke of a league.

We really aren’t losing much by replacing Allegri with an unproven manager.
I don't defend Allegri but saying any unproven coach can lead this Juve to win Serie A is far fetched. Napoli gave serious challenge in recent years and without Allegri at the helm I doubt Juve can win 8 straight scudetto. Besides we should be thankful to Allegri for his achievement leading Juve to 2 UCL final. But maybe his cycle in this club is over and change of coach is needed to give Juve new and braver mentality for the final push to win UCL trophy.
 

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
13,368
I want to see him show something in the remaining games that hints at a positive change next season.

The scudetto is there, we have nothing else to play for. I want to see if he can get us playing decent football.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,709
Allegri will not change
This. He has been 5 years in charge of us. He has his way of playing and is too old for a change. he will NOT change.

At this point, im all for trying jabroni after jabroni until we find the right formula. Name it gasperini or inzaghi (@Badass Dybala ) or EDF.

Lets be clear on something here... you allegrist want trophies? Serie A will always be ours for the years to come because we are way too good for this putrid league.. So you can rejoice about scudetto every year. Lets us who want to see something different in europe try to find solutions until we hit the jackpot.

One thing is sure, and i cant stress this enough..... You DONT solve problems by trying the same thing time after time mindlessly. Its time for a change.

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Why not?

We have played several different systems under him and did play decent football at a time.
We can try all the formations available in the book... the problem is his mentality and the way he sees football as a whole. This will not change.
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
15,307
Why not?

We have played several different systems under him and did play decent football at a time.
Tactical flexibility is his strong point but we don't really have any game plan apart from putting crosses in the box or depending on Ronaldo for something to happen but he is not entirely responsible our midfield has zero creativity plus his training methods our players look gassed after first half yesterday but his biggest weakness is that he is not proactive manager
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,709
Tactical flexibility is his strong point but we don't really have any game plan apart from putting crosses in the box or depending on Ronaldo for something to happen but he is not entirely responsible our midfield has zero creativity plus his training methods our players look gassed after first half yesterday but his biggest weakness is that he is not proactive manager
Yup
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,184
You can blame the board for degrading the midfield but yet again I see history repeating itself. It was the likes of Gattuso-Nocerino-van Bommel then it is the likes of Khedira , Matuidi and Can now. See the pattern ? The way the Marchisio episode was handled and giving a washed up sloth like Khedira a contract extension with a payrise at that just because he happens to be one of Allegri's favorites was an absolute disgrace.
What i see is a long-ass post full of cold hard nonsense you could have copy pasted from Nedved96 and Hydde.
Dai mate at some point you have to admit that there’s a pattern here.

Allegri’s favourite midfielders at Milan were Poli, Montolivo, Van Bommel, Gattuso and Muntari. Now here at Juve, Allegri is in love with Matuidi, Khedira and Can. This isn’t just a coincidence.

He’s openly stated in the past that he likes tall and physical midfielders, and our squad is full of them.

The problem is that when our talk physical midfielders have to play against ballers like Modric/Kroos/Isco or even De Jong, we can’t hang with them and we get schooled.
 

Juve FC

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2016
557
Why not?

We have played several different systems under him and did play decent football at a time.
As a writer on Football Italia mentioned

Ajax deserve all the plaudits, while Juventus deserve every criticism and this result goes to further prove that in modern football, if you have belief in the way you play, define a clear style and approach, then you do not need to constantly search for ways to stop an opponent. You deploy Plan A and let that lead the way.
 

Arcticdaly

Senior Member
Oct 3, 2018
4,075
Tactical flexibility is his strong point but we don't really have any game plan apart from putting crosses in the box or depending on Ronaldo for something to happen but he is not entirely responsible our midfield has zero creativity plus his training methods our players look gassed after first half yesterday but his biggest weakness is that he is not proactive manager
Plus the fact that hes goes into big games trying to stop the other team from playing there way instead of imposing are game on the other team and let them worry about us. Hes pussy mentailty will never change and nothing will change on this team untill he goes simple as that.
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
15,307
Plus the fact that hes goes into big games trying to stop the other team from playing there way instead of imposing are game on the other team and let them worry about us. Hes pussy mentailty will never change and nothing will change on this team untill he goes simple as that.
But he is not the only problem our transfer policy also needs a relook
 
Sep 13, 2015
446
Tactical flexibility is for teams that are trying to save themselves from the relegation zone by squeezing every point they could get against every opponent. This is the old fashioned Italian bolognese style.

This team lacks attacking identity. If you change the tactics for each opponent eventually you'll create a chaos. This is why we never dominate opponents over the two legs cause he always f*cks up.

This tactical flexibility only works in Italy cause most of the teams never press us. But look what happened against Atalanta or Ajax when you fail to counter press them.
 

dolph

Senior Member
Mar 30, 2006
2,599
As a writer on Football Italia mentioned

Ajax deserve all the plaudits, while Juventus deserve every criticism and this result goes to further prove that in modern football, if you have belief in the way you play, define a clear style and approach, then you do not need to constantly search for ways to stop an opponent. You deploy Plan A and let that lead the way.
All the saunaboys keep making fun of Klopp, Guardiola etc. for only having a plan A. Normally Allegri has a plan A, B and C, but non of them are really done to “perfection”.

I would rather have a coach who has a well definet philosofy and playing style, than one who is more tactical versatile.

Hopefully we part ways with Allegri after this season, and we start looking for a manager like Pep or Pochettino. Offcourse the management/owners should be prepared to buy the players, who fit the system, and not buy players just based on the financial parameters in place.
 

Juve FC

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2016
557
All the saunaboys keep making fun of Klopp, Guardiola etc. for only having a plan A. Normally Allegri has a plan A, B and C, but non of them are really done to “perfection”.

I would rather have a coach who has a well definet philosofy and playing style, than one who is more tactical versatile.

Hopefully we part ways with Allegri after this season, and we start looking for a manager like Pep or Pochettino. Offcourse the management/owners should be prepared to buy the players, who fit the system, and not buy players just based on the financial parameters in place.
When the players know their roles they can play with more confidence. This is why we see such disjointed play.
 

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