Massimiliano Allegri (217 Viewers)

[IlCapitano]

Momblano said that the guys in the dressing room feel that under Allegri most of the players are not improving and not motivated enough.

BS. Player motivation is the most overrated part of football. If you can't get yourself motivated for a CL game, playing for Juve, playing with CR, then gtfo. Did CR look unmotivated the other day? Does Matuidi look unmotivated? Bonucci and Chiellini? Cancelo and Bernardeschi? Mario?

Bunch of pussies.

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remember when Conte almost ruined Vidal's career because he desperately wanted that record number of points and we sucked in the EL semifinals against Benfica

Yeah, that's not what happened. Vidal refused to go for surgery, he wanted to play. Even after we finished the season he went and played every single game of Copa America that year. He knew if he had a surgery during the season he'd miss it.

 

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[Mark]

Players are pussies and need that kick in the ass.

 

[Hydde]

I think many here never questioned his/our success in the past 4 years, but are just frustrated with the way we approach and play our games. Watch the Atléti game and you wouldn't believe we are leading Serie A by over 10 points. And for some parts of this season we didn't really play better in Serie A than we did on last Wednesday. We just have the individual class to still win. It's enough for Serie A, but not enough for CL. So we have the squad but not the tactical wit, the game plan, the identity to bring all our power on the pitch. And that's just frustrating to watch by fans who have so high expectations after so many finals lost.

Practically.

And its true, you dont win the CL every year, even by playing to you standards. Its not like Zidane will magicaly come and hand us the CL throphy in the preseason,
But the thing is that we are just playing way below what we are supposed to be playing, and theres where the problem is.

 

[JCK]

Momblano said that the guys in the dressing room feel that under Allegri most of the players are not improving and not motivated enough.

Who is Momblano?

 

[Mark]

Who is Momblano?

journalist. he's got connections.

 

[enzo]

But the thing is that we are just playing way below what we are supposed to be playing, and theres where the problem is.

Exactly

 

[IlCapitano]

We should part ways as you say, and in the most respectful manner because Allegri deserves it and the compliments.

About turning the tides of the ATL defeat......sorry but we should never be in this situation of being forced to turn a deficit like this after the game we played. You can lose 02.... but the way we lost, and the way we approach keygames in general, has been something that is repeating itself in the last years.

How much more time you think is needed for a change in mentality an approach? 5 more years?

Time is well overdue.

Give me a break lmao

We destroyed United in every possible way and lost in a fluke and people still bitch and moan. We had an almost perfect 1st half of the season and people still bitched and moaned. Allegri will never win with some no matter what he does and that's a fact.

You can see in the way he's criticized. When we play well and win or play well and lose or play badly and win or play badly and lose he's the one common denominator in every scenario. He's the usual suspect every single time.

The fact he only ever lost to superior teams or in this case, at worst the same, in Atletico says enough. Yet still people call for all these other coaches who have better teams and regularly get embarrassed by inferior ones without anyone holding them to the same standard. Until they come here and same shit happens here - then you'll turn against them too.

 

[enzo]

Give me a break lmao

We destroyed United in every possible way and lost in a fluke and people still bitch and moan. We had an almost perfect 1st half of the season and people still bitched and moaned. Allegri will never win with some no matter what he does and that's a fact.

You can see in the way he's criticized. When we play well and win or play well and lose or play badly and win or play badly and lose he's the one common denominator in every scenario. He's the usual suspect every single time.

The fact he only ever lost to superior teams or in this case, at worst the same, in Atletico says enough. Yet still people call for all these other coaches who have better teams and regularly get embarrassed by inferior ones without anyone holding them to the same standard. Until they come here and same shit happens here - then you'll turn against them too.

We are unbeaten in Serie A, thanks to Allegri. But despite winning, you can't deny we have been playing like shit this season ever since and a lot of times we looked completely clueless. In this case I just cannot single out an individual player, it's either the squad's fault, Allegri's or both. So what step is to be taken here?

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And if we destroyed United in every way possible, we wouldn't have lost. That's just a stupid thing to say.

 

[Hydde]

Give me a break lmao

We destroyed United in every possible way and lost in a fluke and people still bitch and moan. We had an almost perfect 1st half of the season and people still bitched and moaned. Allegri will never win with some no matter what he does and that's a fact.

Disagree. When you destroy you destroy. Period.

You can see in the way he's criticized. When we play well and win or play well and lose or play badly and win or play badly and lose he's the one common denominator in every scenario. He's the usual suspect every single time.

Because of the approach and style of game. Serie A is difficult to base judgement upon because of the low quality of the teams. most of them just ebnd over to us because of individual quality.

The fact he only ever lost to superior teams or in this case, at worst the same, in Atletico says enough. Yet still people call for all these other coaches who have better teams and regularly get embarrassed by inferior ones without anyone holding them to the same standard.

There have been a lot of cases tha twe have been exposed not because of the superior opposition, but because our own bad approach (Tottenham games, Madrid first games last season, Last season Napoli game at JS, Cardiff, Young Boys, this last ATM game, Atalanta, Parma. Just to mention some.

Independent of the quality of opposition... our gameplay and approach always lacks.

Until they come here and same shit happens here - then you'll turn against them too.

if is the coach wrongdoings and negligence, you can bet your ass i will do it.

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We are unbeaten in Serie A, thanks to Allegri. But despite winning, you can't deny we have been playing like shit this season ever since and a lot of times we looked completely clueless. In this case I just cannot single out an individual player, it's either the squad's fault, Allegri's or both. So what step is to be taken here?

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And if we destroyed United in every way possible, we wouldn't have lost. That's just a stupid thing to say.

This.

 

[IlCapitano]

We are unbeaten in Serie A, thanks to Allegri. But despite winning, you can't deny we have been playing like shit this season ever since and a lot of times we looked completely clueless. In this case I just cannot single out an individual player, it's either the squad's fault, Allegri's or both. So what step is to be taken here?

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And if we destroyed United in every way possible, we wouldn't have lost. That's just a stupid thing to say.

Yes, I can actually deny it and I did many times before in this thread. We played very good football overall in the 1st half.

It's not stupid, it's the way it is. Anything else is just another cheap try to spin and pin it all on Allegri. We can play that game a 100 times and we'd win 99. It was a fluke and nothing but a fluke. Going by your logic if you play well it's impossible to ever lose. Teams never get lucky, individuals never fuck up, it's all black and white. Lazio destroyed us and we won in a fluke way. Just the way it is.

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Disagree. When you destroy you destroy. Period.

Look above.

Because of the approach and style of game. Serie A is difficult to base judgement upon because of the low quality of the teams. most of them just ebnd over to us because of individual quality.

No they don't lmao. It's exactly the opposite. Most of them play for their lives against us and then lose the very next game.

There have been a lot of cases tha twe have been exposed not because of the superior opposition, but because our own bad approach (Tottenham games, Madrid first games last season, Last season Napoli game at JS, Cardiff, Young Boys, this last ATM game, Atalanta, Parma. Just to mention some.

Independent of the quality of opposition... our gameplay and approach always lacks.

Madrid last year wasn't superior, what? Madrid in Cardiff wasn't superior? We had a bad approach there? Are you kidding me? We were the better team in Cardiff first 45 minutes, we had better chances, we had control. We lost because they were much better in the second half/whatever happened in the locker room/Pjanić was injured, etc etc. Many RM fans say that was their best team ever, their best season ever.

And yes, there were times we weren't good enough, shit happens. But not this year. In the 1st half we were excellent in every big game we had.

 

[Arcticdaly]

We did not play good football at all this season same crap every game get it wide and look to cross for headers that is all we ever do in games which is what teams do when there desperate and dont know how to proberly attack and that is down to the coaching from alegri.

 

[Vlad]

Somewhere after United game in Turin we started playing badly. Whether its fear that crept inside, insecurities, I dont know. But we were different team from then on.

 

[Cerval]

Somewhere after United game in Turin we started playing badly. Whether its fear that crept inside, insecurities, I dont know. But we were different team from then on.

Agreed it broke us. We went from playing confidently to looking sluggish after this incident

 

[pavelnel]

He has 20 days to figure out how we are going to score three or more goals to AM without conceding one. You know, the same AM that beat us in the past two times in three games. Goal difference 3:0. Not. Gonna. Happen.
Prove me wrong, dumbass.

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[enzo]

Yes, I can actually deny it and I did many times before in this thread. We played very good football overall in the 1st half.

It's not stupid, it's the way it is. Anything else is just another cheap try to spin and pin it all on Allegri. We can play that game a 100 times and we'd win 99. It was a fluke and nothing but a fluke. Going by your logic if you play well it's impossible to ever lose. Teams never get lucky, individuals never fuck up, it's all black and white. Lazio destroyed us and we won in a fluke way. Just the way it is.

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Look above.


No they don't lmao. It's exactly the opposite. Most of them play for their lives against us and then lose the very next game.


Madrid last year wasn't superior, what? Madrid in Cardiff wasn't superior? We had a bad approach there? Are you kidding me? We were the better team in Cardiff first 45 minutes, we had better chances, we had control. We lost because they were much better in the second half/whatever happened in the locker room/Pjanić was injured, etc etc. Many RM fans say that was their best team ever, their best season ever.

And yes, there were times we weren't good enough, shit happens. But not this year. In the 1st half we were excellent in every big game we had.

Played good football "overall" in the first half doesn't sound like destroyed to me. However, don't wanna nitpick here. I agree we were in control most of the time. But once again we didn't finish an opponent off. I can't say that's Allegri's fault, he kept and keeps complaining about this as well. However, maybe a different approach is needed then?
I absolutely don't spin everything on Allegri. And you are right, I appreciate it when we deliver a good game and I praise Allegri when we outplayed or surprised an opponent. But at the moment this hardly ever happens. This season I see a steady decline.

 

[Bianconero81]

Judging by his comments he still sounds pretty confident we will get past Atletico

Hope is last to die I suppose. We won't get past them playing that shit brand of football we've been witnessing recently, and definitely not with Ronaldo taking decisive freekicks.

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Just get your team ready for ATM and stop looking for excuses. I thought he also stated before the ATM game that we wouldn't go there to defend and that an away goal would be crucial. I wonder how that turned out

 

[Juvenann]

Ye sure, kiddo. @Juvenann you agree with this kiddo?

Definitely Mario is unbenchable. But Dybala too.

 

[jukazem]

Yeah, that's not what happened. Vidal refused to go for surgery, he wanted to play. Even after we finished the season he went and played every single game of Copa America that year. He knew if he had a surgery during the season he'd miss it.

Lol no. That was the World Cup year. Vidal was in the right to postpone the surgery until after the world cup. He shouldn't have been played in the meaningless Serie A matches.

 

[kao_ray]

journalist. he's got connections.

How reliable is Momblano?

 

[JUVEMOOD]

Its been along time since i posted,, but Allegri’s latest comment that winning always is boring sums my view of him. If he is not going along with the club motto then what is he doing here


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