Massimiliano Allegri (206 Viewers)

[alexjuventino]

Why not Simeone?

Can’t deny his experience against the two best teams so I think he knows better than anyone how to do well against big teams given having to compete with RM and Barca on the field AND mercato

Not a fan of him or his football

 

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[dolph]

yeah, was really naive to think the same approach as with barcelona would work on Liverpool as well, especially having the wingbacks leave the flanks so wide open. but the guy is still young, so can only learn from this (i hope so atleast, unless he went to the same coaching school as our boy Antonio). i expect him to set the team up much better for the return leg and give Pool hell, so even if they go out that it wont be without a fight

He is an interesting coach and he could have a bright future ahead of him. Dont think he is ready to take over in Juve for example. At least not yet.

Hopefully Roma will do a better job in the second leg, but I have trouble seeing how they are going to close Pool down, considering they need a 3-0 or 4-1 result.

 

[zizinho]

He is an interesting coach and he could have a bright future ahead of him. Dont think he is ready to take over in Juve for example. At least not yet.

Hopefully Roma will do a better job in the second leg, but I have trouble seeing how they are going to close Pool down, considering they need a 3-0 or 4-1 result.

yes, true. in a few years when Allegri leaves however, i imagine he will have grown and be among the top candidates

 

[MikeM]

I was referring to your idea of replacing Higuain with Dybala. How do you know it would work? It's just your assumption. Palermo, where Dybala used to play as 9 (I suppose, I did not watch too many of his games there), had much more space upfront because they were not dominating opponents as Juve do. Consequently, Dybala had the chance to roam at defenders instead of playing in line with them as Higuain usually does. If Pipa moves back he lures defenders with him so that Dybala has some open space upfront to burst into (second goal away against Tottenham). As Allegri said many tmes, Dybala has more to his game than just to be a striker. He should try to imitate Messi style who could be a striker if he wanted to but Barcelona decided to buy Suarez and play him upfront. In that setup Messi operates on the whole oppenent's half having kind of a free role. I know Dybala is no Messi but he's neither a better striker than Higuain. I'm yet to see him scoring a header and what would he do if he had a shooting opportunity on his right leg? Whereas Higuain can finish with both his feet equally.

I want to replace Higuain with Dybala because only one can be on the field. And that's very clear at this point. We look better in a 4-3-3, virtually regardless of who is on the field. It could be Mandzukic in a 4-3-3 and we still look better.

So I want to get to a 4-3-3. In that case, one of Dybala/Higuain is dropped or sold. I'd rather keep Dybala. My argument for Dybala over Higuain as a #9 is the fact that Higuain does not offer anything additional despite his height and weight advantage in terms of being a target.

Higuain does not offer an outlet to break the press with a high ball. He does not offer a crossing target with his head. Neither does Dybala.

But as a #9, Dybala can actually get in behind the CBs with a through ball. He can pin them back just like Higuain because of the threat of getting behind. He can move from the CF position and drift wide to collect a ball, and ask questions of the CBs whether they want to follow him or not. He is quicker around the box. And let's face it, Dybala's 1st, 2nd and 3rd instinct when he gets the ball is to shoot.

But if it was really up to me I'd sell both and buy a real #9.

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Pretend Higuain is a CM in this video clip. This is basically what Dybala looks like as a #9:

[video=streamable;dyp9a]https://streamable.com/dyp9a[/video]

 

[IliveForJuve]

I want to replace Higuain with Dybala because only one can be on the field. And that's very clear at this point. We look better in a 4-3-3, virtually regardless of who is on the field. It could be Mandzukic in a 4-3-3 and we still look better.

So I want to get to a 4-3-3. In that case, one of Dybala/Higuain is dropped or sold. I'd rather keep Dybala. My argument for Dybala over Higuain as a #9 is the fact that Higuain does not offer anything additional despite his height and weight advantage in terms of being a target.

Higuain does not offer an outlet to break the press with a high ball. He does not offer a crossing target with his head. Neither does Dybala.

But as a #9, Dybala can actually get in behind the CBs with a through ball. He can pin them back just like Higuain because of the threat of getting behind. He can move from the CF position and drift wide to collect a ball, and ask questions of the CBs whether they want to follow him or not. He is quicker around the box. And let's face it, Dybala's 1st, 2nd and 3rd instinct when he gets the ball is to shoot.

But if it was really up to me I'd sell both and buy a real #9.

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Pretend Higuain is a CM in this video clip. This is basically what Dybala looks like as a #9:

[video=streamable;dyp9a]https://streamable.com/dyp9a[/video]

Pretty much spot on.

I'd like add that Higuain can only decline from now on, while Dybi will prolly do just the opposite.

 

[Hydde]

Yep. Thats why if we want to sacrifice one, it needs to be Higuain. We brought him specifically to win the CL, and well he was not able to make us win it. Not his fault totally, but the end result is what matters here. We paid way too much and in 2 years we failed to win the damn thing. Time to go back to the drawing board.

 

[InterMerda]

I wouldn't take Simeone. I'd like a more attack minded coach... That's what it takes to win CL

 

[IliveForJuve]

I wouldn't take Simeone. I'd like a more attack minded coach... That's what it takes to win CL

That means... Klopp

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Why would he leave Liverpool though?

 

[B3N]

I was referring to your idea of replacing Higuain with Dybala. How do you know it would work? It's just your assumption. Palermo, where Dybala used to play as 9 (I suppose, I did not watch too many of his games there), had much more space upfront because they were not dominating opponents as Juve do. Consequently, Dybala had the chance to roam at defenders instead of playing in line with them as Higuain usually does. If Pipa moves back he lures defenders with him so that Dybala has some open space upfront to burst into (second goal away against Tottenham). As Allegri said many tmes, Dybala has more to his game than just to be a striker. He should try to imitate Messi style who could be a striker if he wanted to but Barcelona decided to buy Suarez and play him upfront. In that setup Messi operates on the whole oppenent's half having kind of a free role. I know Dybala is no Messi but he's neither a better striker than Higuain. I'm yet to see him scoring a header and what would he do if he had a shooting opportunity on his right leg? Whereas Higuain can finish with both his feet equally.

 

[Juliano13]

I was referring to your idea of replacing Higuain with Dybala. How do you know it would work? It's just your assumption. Palermo, where Dybala used to play as 9 (I suppose, I did not watch too many of his games there), had much more space upfront because they were not dominating opponents as Juve do. Consequently, Dybala had the chance to roam at defenders instead of playing in line with them as Higuain usually does. If Pipa moves back he lures defenders with him so that Dybala has some open space upfront to burst into (second goal away against Tottenham). As Allegri said many tmes, Dybala has more to his game than just to be a striker. He should try to imitate Messi style who could be a striker if he wanted to but Barcelona decided to buy Suarez and play him upfront. In that setup Messi operates on the whole oppenent's half having kind of a free role. I know Dybala is no Messi but he's neither a better striker than Higuain. I'm yet to see him scoring a header and what would he do if he had a shooting opportunity on his right leg? Whereas Higuain can finish with both his feet equally.

Who, Dybala or Higuain?

 

[ALC]

Who, Dybala or Higuain?

good question

 

[B3N]

Higuain does not offer an outlet to break the press with a high ball.

Like this


At least he got decency as a teammate to run after balls sent to orbit by Chiellini or Bentancur whenever we try those.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

 

[Boksic]

I was referring to your idea of replacing Higuain with Dybala. How do you know it would work? It's just your assumption. Palermo, where Dybala used to play as 9 (I suppose, I did not watch too many of his games there), had much more space upfront because they were not dominating opponents as Juve do. Consequently, Dybala had the chance to roam at defenders instead of playing in line with them as Higuain usually does. If Pipa moves back he lures defenders with him so that Dybala has some open space upfront to burst into (second goal away against Tottenham). As Allegri said many tmes, Dybala has more to his game than just to be a striker. He should try to imitate Messi style who could be a striker if he wanted to but Barcelona decided to buy Suarez and play him upfront. In that setup Messi operates on the whole oppenent's half having kind of a free role. I know Dybala is no Messi but he's neither a better striker than Higuain. I'm yet to see him scoring a header and what would he do if he had a shooting opportunity on his right leg? Whereas Higuain can finish with both his feet equally.

 

[Negan]

I was referring to your idea of replacing Higuain with Dybala. How do you know it would work? It's just your assumption. Palermo, where Dybala used to play as 9 (I suppose, I did not watch too many of his games there), had much more space upfront because they were not dominating opponents as Juve do. Consequently, Dybala had the chance to roam at defenders instead of playing in line with them as Higuain usually does. If Pipa moves back he lures defenders with him so that Dybala has some open space upfront to burst into (second goal away against Tottenham). As Allegri said many tmes, Dybala has more to his game than just to be a striker. He should try to imitate Messi style who could be a striker if he wanted to but Barcelona decided to buy Suarez and play him upfront. In that setup Messi operates on the whole oppenent's half having kind of a free role. I know Dybala is no Messi but he's neither a better striker than Higuain. I'm yet to see him scoring a header and what would he do if he had a shooting opportunity on his right leg? Whereas Higuain can finish with both his feet equally.

Higuain will need replacing in the next season or two, may as well ship him off while he's worth something. Dybala can only improve but then again him and Allegri don't seem to mix so well it's like they are oil and water trying to mix just doesn't work

I would be really disappointed if both of them are still playing for us next season, it's crystal clear one has to go for the good of the team

 

[The Quazis]

I want to replace Higuain with Dybala because only one can be on the field. And that's very clear at this point. We look better in a 4-3-3, virtually regardless of who is on the field. It could be Mandzukic in a 4-3-3 and we still look better.

So I want to get to a 4-3-3. In that case, one of Dybala/Higuain is dropped or sold. I'd rather keep Dybala. My argument for Dybala over Higuain as a #9 is the fact that Higuain does not offer anything additional despite his height and weight advantage in terms of being a target.

Higuain does not offer an outlet to break the press with a high ball. He does not offer a crossing target with his head. Neither does Dybala.

But as a #9, Dybala can actually get in behind the CBs with a through ball. He can pin them back just like Higuain because of the threat of getting behind. He can move from the CF position and drift wide to collect a ball, and ask questions of the CBs whether they want to follow him or not. He is quicker around the box. And let's face it, Dybala's 1st, 2nd and 3rd instinct when he gets the ball is to shoot.

But if it was really up to me I'd sell both and buy a real #9.

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Pretend Higuain is a CM in this video clip. This is basically what Dybala looks like as a #9:

[video=streamable;dyp9a]https://streamable.com/dyp9a[/video]

Why we can't play Dybala next to Higuain in 4-3-3 though? Dybala is not a winger but the problem could be solved with a better RB who would have covered the wing when Paula drifts to the center. Rb defensive position would have been covered by RCM. It's almost impossible to buy better players than Dybala and Higuain therefore any idea suggesting selling them is bad in my opinion.

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[Orgut]

That means... Klopp

Klopp is a gamble because the only team I saw him up till now is Dortmund which he took to the top and then got them to be relegation strugglers..
Now he is with Liverpool and he took them to CL SF and probably final with great football (sounds like Dortmund`s first season... The question is how will be next season if he is to stay at Pool..

 

[edgardavids2608]

Can you imagine Costa under Klopp? He would be unstopable. Not sure if Klopp is someone we would need but we will see in a few years. I dont think hes a long term guy. More of a 3-4 year project guy

 

[Badass J Elkann]

imagine our defence under klopp... it would be a laughing stock