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Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,182
What about Marotta? Isn't it time for him to leave as well? I mean he's been quite complacent on the transfer market lately, and the fact our team lacks unity and cohesion owes much to his shitty purchases as it does to Allegri's tactics. Another disgusting mercato like last summer and Marotta should fuck off as well.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
"You can't win the league every year, when was the last tiem a team won 7 domestic titles in a row, we were bound to lose the Scudetto at point" is my favourite kind of apologetics.
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
75,494
Name/Percentage/Touches
Dybala 100% (16)
Pjanic 94.1 (74)
Howie 89.7 (70)
Chiellini 88.9 (11)
Benatia 86.6 (75)
Matuidi 84.6 (49)
Sami 84.2 (27 for 93 minutes :lol:)
Cuadrado 81.8 (28)
Asamoah 77.6 (67)
Mario 73.3 (20)
Licht 65.9 (55)
Higuain 63.6 (19)
DC 58.3 (35)
Lichtsteiner, pathetic.
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,454
He had a great outing 2nd ties vs Spurs and Real tactically speaking.



But yeah there been too many confused and lethargic performances since the formation change, even if results, goals and consistent defence been there mostly.

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It’s obvious that we neither have the personnel nor positional pieces for the 433. No consistency no rhythm
 

dolph

Senior Member
Mar 30, 2006
2,599
Name/Percentage/Touches
Dybala 100% (16)
Pjanic 94.1 (74)
Howie 89.7 (70)
Chiellini 88.9 (11)
Benatia 86.6 (75)
Matuidi 84.6 (49)
Sami 84.2 (27 for 93 minutes :lol:)
Cuadrado 81.8 (28)
Asamoah 77.6 (67)
Mario 73.3 (20)
Licht 65.9 (55)
Higuain 63.6 (19)
DC 58.3 (35)
How many touches does Buffon have? Is it more or less than Khedira?
 

napoleonic

Senior Member
Sep 7, 2010
4,129
Blame Max all you want for last nights conservative approach(also for taking DC out which wasn't a smart move at all even tho bringing Mandzu on definitely was), losing Chiellini so early on wasnt really according to the script either but above everything else there's absolutely no excuse for the pathetic perfomances some 'crucial' players came up with last night, don't come here and tell me that is solely Allegri's fault we coudn't string 3 decent passes together(there were tougher games when our passing was way better btw), we were simply getting wrong the most basic of passes, imo that $#@! can't be teached or trained, our players crumbled under pressure when it mattered most and there's just no excuse for that, not even scapegoating the coach for it...

It's gonna be tougher than ever to win the scudetto now but atm nothing is done and dusted yet, hopefully this defeat might serve as a wake-up call at the right time, chances are slim but i'm convinced we can still do it, much will depend on how Max's gonna set up the team and how certain 'crucial' players will respond to it because we will nonetheless need a bare minimum of 10 points from the 4 games remaining.
100% the coach fault if the players are unstable mentally throughout a season in a 6 year streak championship winning team.

It's the coach job to motivate, and prepare them mentally and technically on both sides of the pitch (offense and defense).
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,776
Lichtsteiner, pathetic.
He has no technique and being pressured with no space to run straight at, he will 7 out of 10 times defenitely go for a random long ball to attack that goes to defense, or just hard shitty pass to the right winger that goes wayward too often.


Majority of his successful passes are back passes to CBs or side pass from 2ms to winger. Aslong as he has no space to run forward on he completely shits the bed.




Appreciate his long and successful tenure as a role player with us, but man is it time to say good bye. We are watching his final 5 games, well over due.



Going into this season I would never thought Kwadwo would have more impact for now and the one we will miss more for our bench.

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BayernFan

Senior Member
Feb 17, 2016
7,146
He never really has any set blue printed plays for attack, he is more about just giving them freedom and flexibility. Was the same in Milan. His tactics is mainly about organisation and being well prepared in how to neutralize. Don't see him as a defensive coach for it (if anything his 4-2-3-1 was quite offensive), more of an adaptive one, to what he has to use.



He can't adapt to how to properly use this 433 tho, especially in terms utilizing our best player in it. Funny thing is he changed to this 3 man midfield to improve midfield, but it's still $#@!.

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Allegri are by no means a bad coach, but as I see it he cant take Juve further. Its either getting a new coach or regressing slightly. Juventus should look for a more attacking minded coach, not naive, but a coach that can get more "fluent" attacking play into the team. Whenever I watch Juve lately it looks like most players have no clue in the attack and cant combine trough a compact defence or someone who is not wide open - no offence :p
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,454
Allegri are by no means a bad coach, but as I see it he cant take Juve further. Its either getting a new coach or regressing slightly. Juventus should look for a more attacking minded coach, not naive, but a coach that can get more "fluent" attacking play into the team. Whenever I watch Juve lately it looks like most players have no clue in the attack and cant combine trough a compact defence or someone who is not wide open - no offence :p
You’re spot on. If the opposing team sits back we’re fucked. No ideas no ways to penetrate the numbers
 

BayernFan

Senior Member
Feb 17, 2016
7,146
You’re spot on. If the opposing team sits back we’re $#@!ed. No ideas no ways to penetrate the numbers
As I see it, Juventus´ attacking play needs a big overhaul, maybe with a new coach. If you aim to win the CL its simply paramount for you to be able to combine trough, or at least be able to do it. You cant solely rely on individual brilliance and fight, but they are important aspects also. A healthy combination of it all and you have a winning machine.

I think thats why Bayern Munich dominated all teams in the treble year, that team had it all. Lately Madrid has had some of it as well, but luck at all the right times also played a big part for them.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,922
As I see it, Juventus´ attacking play needs a big overhaul, maybe with a new coach. If you aim to win the CL its simply paramount for you to be able to combine trough, or at least be able to do it. You cant solely rely on individual brilliance and fight, but they are important aspects also. A healthy combination of it all and you have a winning machine.

I think thats why Bayern Munich dominated all teams in the treble year, that team had it all. Lately Madrid has had some of it as well, but luck at all the right times also played a big part for them.
2013 Bayern would destroy Zidane's Real. 9 out of 10 times.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
35,609
juve did a couple of similar moves, it was just an example. from possession we can move very quickly do attack. we only have one major issue since forever: we cannot really play effectively against high-pressing teams.

allegri is a great coach, there's no 2 ways about it.
When you deploy more 'workhorses' and more runners in the starting eleven, chances are you're never really going to play effective against high pressing teams

Mandzukic, Khedira, Matuidi, Lichtsteiner, Chiellini, Asamoah etc. That's about half your starting eleven with low technical ability. That's unacceptable.

Signing Can again is going to solve nothing in that regard.
 

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