Massimiliano Allegri (291 Viewers)

[Juvellino]

I don't see Allegri moving Dybala wide, though.

He may tinker with the shape and Dybala's position, but I can only see it being in 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-2-1.

That means Dybala's position would just be slight variations on where he usually plays.

What's your opinion on moving Dybala wide?

 

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[petersmit]

Pjaca and dybala behind higuain sounds like pure sex though....

With Cuadrado, mandzukic etc. As subs... Fucking awesome

 

[Red]

What's your opinion on moving Dybala wide?

I don't see it being good for him.

You'd have to consider it if that was required to make the whole team function well, but I don't think that is the case just now.

 

[Fr3sh]

Lippi used to have few coaches on the pitch: Conte, Deschamps and Sousa. Purple fans are accusing Sousa is biding his time at Fiorentina, waiting for the coach job at Juve to open.

Insecure little bitches. We'll take him and Bernadeshi at the same damn time.

 

[Zacheryah]

He's a very good crosser, excellent dribbler, has a good pace and a quality player overall. Again, I have never seen him play on the wing for Juve to pass a judgment. Apparently, he played as a wing before joining Palermo and was considered a Messi understudy with Argentina.

If you want to get the best of the squad, you should not sacrifice what could be a brilliant trident just to get a 10/10 out of Dybala instead of a 9/10. Allegri needs to change something and 4-3-3 is there to try. Decent covers as well with the likes of Cuadrado and Alex Sandro both able to operate there.

Dybala is a player who's good at short burst, but has average stamina and drops speed quite quickly, or will kick the ball to far ahead to keep up . He thrives on his agility and technique to make most of those short burst.


Awesome in the center, to make a 10 meter burst past 2 players and pass or shoot it.


Idiotic down the wing, where h'll be muscled of the ball cause to little strenght, far to little lasting pace, and beeing too far of goal.




But zach, messi messi messi. Messi is exceptionally strong for his size with low center of gravity, and loses barely any speed when starting his runs. Thats why he also excells comming from down the wing.

Same with Robben or Bale. They have a very high top speed and can maintain it. Dybala cant, he accelerates fast and then loses speed fast and never really reaches a very high speed

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Dybala is a player who's good at short burst, but has average stamina and drops speed quite quickly, or will kick the ball to far ahead to keep up . He thrives on his agility and technique to make most of those short burst.


Awesome in the center, to make a 10 meter burst past 2 players and pass or shoot it.


Idiotic down the wing, where h'll be muscled of the ball cause to little strenght, far to little lasting pace, and beeing too far of goal.




But zach, messi messi messi. Messi is exceptionally strong for his size with low center of gravity, and loses barely any speed when starting his runs. Thats why he also excells comming from down the wing.

Same with Robben or Bale. They have a very high top speed and can maintain it. Dybala cant, he accelerates fast and then loses speed fast and never really reaches a very high speed

Agree with everything about the speed part. He's not a fast player and has a very short burst. Which still leads me believe he could even better used as a 9 with maybe a free role but definitely closer to the goal than as a SS. The way he played at Palermo.

If you recall that was my opinion when he first joined us. By not being fast and having such a short burst and not the strongest build nor the greatest first touch , he heavily relies on his ability and dribbling skills. Of course this will never happen. We have two great hard working STs already.

 

[dolph]

Dybala is a player who's good at short burst, but has average stamina and drops speed quite quickly, or will kick the ball to far ahead to keep up . He thrives on his agility and technique to make most of those short burst.


Awesome in the center, to make a 10 meter burst past 2 players and pass or shoot it.


Idiotic down the wing, where h'll be muscled of the ball cause to little strenght, far to little lasting pace, and beeing too far of goal.




But zach, messi messi messi. Messi is exceptionally strong for his size with low center of gravity, and loses barely any speed when starting his runs. Thats why he also excells comming from down the wing.

Same with Robben or Bale. They have a very high top speed and can maintain it. Dybala cant, he accelerates fast and then loses speed fast and never really reaches a very high speed

I think we all enjoy watching Messi drible down the sideline, crossing it to Suarez. Chasing down the opposition RB. Messi has incredible stamina and is therefore able to play as a RWF.��

 

[duranfj]

I think we all enjoy watching Messi drible down the sideline, crossing it to Suarez. Chasing down the opposition RB. Messi has incredible stamina and is therefore able to play as a RWF.��

Yep, I remember all those long long run Messi does in every single game, it's just amazing how he run so much and he's one of the players with the lowest distance cover per game ever so he's like magical even running

There's no just one reason why Messi could play wide and Dybala does it and it would be totally prove once he goes RM or Barca and play wide

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Beside, Messi is protected since ever for everyone in la Liga and Uefa and I hardly recall any game he's being putting down several times in Europe and that was the first reason why he sucked so much at the beginning with Argentina, he didn't receive that special treatment and he used to get frustrated very quickly

 

[Zacheryah]

I think we all enjoy watching Messi drible down the sideline, crossing it to Suarez. Chasing down the opposition RB. Messi has incredible stamina and is therefore able to play as a RWF.��

Yep, I remember all those long long run Messi does in every single game, it's just amazing how he run so much and he's one of the players with the lowest distance cover per game ever so he's like magical even running

There's no just one reason why Messi could play wide and Dybala does it and it would be totally prove once he goes RM or Barca and play wide

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Beside, Messi is protected since ever for everyone in la Liga and Uefa and I hardly recall any game he's being putting down several times in Europe and that was the first reason why he sucked so much at the beginning with Argentina, he didn't receive that special treatment and he used to get frustrated very quickly

Its actually quite hilarious how you both completely miss the point.


I'll respond once i'm done laughing my face off at you both



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Alight pepi and koki, i'll take a look at what you posted. I'll ignore the idiotic shit and write a respectfull response.

I think we all enjoy watching Messi drible down the sideline, crossing it to Suarez. Chasing down the opposition RB. Messi has incredible stamina and is therefore able to play as a RWF.��

Dybala has a fast acceleration, agility and turning, but doesnt reach a big top speed, and drops pace very quickly. He's suited for 10m burst around the center area as he can go any direction and fouling is hard with pjanic taking free kicks.
Out on the wing, you need a good top speed to get past your market, cut inside from a wider position. Dybala would be easily dispossessed as they'll force him to go outside and abuse his lack of top speed.


Winger doesnt mean you have insane stamina or chase the fullback. Robben was a lethal winger, does he do that ? Nope. Wide midfielders/fullbacks/wingbacks do. Its nice if a winger can, but its not mandatory if you have the output.


Messi started barcelona at RWF. He has a fast acceleration, can get to a high top speed and stay at that speed whilst keeping the ball close, unlike dybala who'll kick it further and further ahead of him. He was lethal and would cut inside from wide or go around, he was unstoppable.
Beeing so gifted, in the center he was equally suited.



I name Robben, and Bale. Two wingers who have incredible top speed and can cut inside from wide positions and arent easily pushed over the sideline.



Dybala is a central player.

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Yep, I remember all those long long run Messi does in every single game, it's just amazing how he run so much and he's one of the players with the lowest distance cover per game ever so he's like magical even running

There's no just one reason why Messi could play wide and Dybala does it and it would be totally prove once he goes RM or Barca and play wide

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Beside, Messi is protected since ever for everyone in la Liga and Uefa and I hardly recall any game he's being putting down several times in Europe and that was the first reason why he sucked so much at the beginning with Argentina, he didn't receive that special treatment and he used to get frustrated very quickly

I said Messi has a high top speed and can maintain it.

You read that and say "he runs alot and covers alot of ground".



Okay. So Usain Bolt isnt a legendary sprinter with extreme lasting pace. Nope, he doesnt cover alot of ground like a marathon runner, as a 100m sprinter he covers the lowest distance per run.




Messi can gain pace and is difficult to muscle off the ball and can maintain pace. He can play wide and central. DYbala has a good burst but cant maintain pace or keep the ball close. He can play wide.





Was this clear enough, or do we need to further simplify it ?

 

[dolph]

Its actually quite hilarious how you both completely miss the point.


I'll respond once i'm done laughing my face off at you both



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I always enjoy reading one of our post. All that incoherent nonsense, is kind of like watching the special olympics. Its kind of entertaining but at the same time you fell a little sorry for the contestents.

Messi has a free role in Barca starting from the right side. He always vacate hes wing, trying to find space between midfield and defense to receive the ball. At the same time the RB (Alves until this year) stays wide and uses the space, that Messi have left. That is the same role everybody here suggest we use Dybala in.

I am looking forward to your response next week, when you have finally thought of a way to respond to the posts.

 

[Djabrail]

Agree with everything about the speed part. He's not a fast player and has a very short burst. Which still leads me believe he could even better used as a 9 with maybe a free role but definitely closer to the goal than as a SS. The way he played at Palermo.

If you recall that was my opinion when he first joined us. By not being fast and having such a short burst and not the strongest build nor the greatest first touch , he heavily relies on his ability and dribbling skills. Of course this will never happen. We have two great hard working STs already.

Dybala has an amazing first touch

 

[dolph]

Its actually quite hilarious how you both completely miss the point.


I'll respond once i'm done laughing my face off at you both



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Alight pepi and koki, i'll take a look at what you posted. I'll ignore the idiotic $#@! and write a respectfull response.



Dybala has a fast acceleration, agility and turning, but doesnt reach a big top speed, and drops pace very quickly. He's suited for 10m burst around the center area as he can go any direction and fouling is hard with pjanic taking free kicks.
Out on the wing, you need a good top speed to get past your market, cut inside from a wider position. Dybala would be easily dispossessed as they'll force him to go outside and abuse his lack of top speed.


Winger doesnt mean you have insane stamina or chase the fullback. Robben was a lethal winger, does he do that ? Nope. Wide midfielders/fullbacks/wingbacks do. Its nice if a winger can, but its not mandatory if you have the output.


Messi started barcelona at RWF. He has a fast acceleration, can get to a high top speed and stay at that speed whilst keeping the ball close, unlike dybala who'll kick it further and further ahead of him. He was lethal and would cut inside from wide or go around, he was unstoppable.
Beeing so gifted, in the center he was equally suited.



I name Robben, and Bale. Two wingers who have incredible top speed and can cut inside from wide positions and arent easily pushed over the sideline.



Dybala is a central player.

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I said Messi has a high top speed and can maintain it.

You read that and say "he runs alot and covers alot of ground".



Okay. So Usain Bolt isnt a legendary sprinter with extreme lasting pace. Nope, he doesnt cover alot of ground like a marathon runner, as a 100m sprinter he covers the lowest distance per run.




Messi can gain pace and is difficult to muscle off the ball and can maintain pace. He can play wide and central. DYbala has a good burst but cant maintain pace or keep the ball close. He can play wide.





Was this clear enough, or do we need to further simplify it ?

This is the same nonsense you already wrote one time. You dont need high top speed to play as a RWF with a free role, and you dont need high top speed to cute inside from the wing and get plast a man, you need good acceleration.
Dybala alteady starts most of his runs on the right side, cutting in so he can use his left leg.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

apparently a consensual agreement has been reached between club and manager that this will be allegri's last season.

I can't say I'm surprised, had this impression since the super cup.

The players don't look motivated any more

 

[Cerval]

says who

 

[zizinho]

He will stay, just look at the interview he gave short time ago

 

[Osman]

apparently a consensual agreement has been reached between club and manager that this will be allegri's last season.

I can't say I'm surprised, had this impression since the super cup.

The players don't look motivated any more

 

[Badass J Elkann]

He will stay, just look at the interview he gave short time ago

doesn't really mean shit, I'm sure Conte said similar things before he suddenly left

 

[duranfj]

I said Messi has a high top speed and can maintain it.

You read that and say "he runs alot and covers alot of ground".



Okay. So Usain Bolt isnt a legendary sprinter with extreme lasting pace. Nope, he doesnt cover alot of ground like a marathon runner, as a 100m sprinter he covers the lowest distance per run.




Messi can gain pace and is difficult to muscle off the ball and can maintain pace. He can play wide and central. DYbala has a good burst but cant maintain pace or keep the ball close. He can play wide.





Was this clear enough, or do we need to further simplify it ?

You, and sadly me too, would be witness how Dybala is gonna play in RM or Barca and I can bet you right now he would play wide like Messi does.

 

[Zacheryah]

This is the same nonsense you already wrote one time. You dont need high top speed to play as a RWF with a free role, and you dont need high top speed to cute inside from the wing and get plast a man, you need good acceleration.
Dybala alteady starts most of his runs on the right side, cutting in so he can use his left leg.

@zizinho i tried man, i tried

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apparently a consensual agreement has been reached between club and manager that this will be allegri's last season.

I can't say I'm surprised, had this impression since the super cup.

The players don't look motivated any more

apparently conte had a homosexual relation with vidal, and both left the club after an argument who was gonna be bottom


NOT THAT I PROVIDE A SOURCE OR ANYTHING

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doesn't really mean shit, I'm sure Conte said similar things before he suddenly left

It does mean shit when you dont have a source

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You, and sadly me too, would be witness how Dybala is gonna play in RM or Barca and I can bet you right now he would play wide like Messi does.

last time i checked he was happy to wear our jersey and its peasant behavour to consistantly lose controll of your bladder by thinking how and why and where a player might possibly leave perhaps maybe


i'll stick to enjoying when he's here and worry about meltdowns when he isnt anymore

sorry for beeing old fashion

 

[zizinho]

@zizinho i tried man, i tried

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apparently conte had a homosexual relation with vidal, and both left the club after an argument who was gonna be bottom


NOT THAT I PROVIDE A SOURCE OR ANYTHING

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It does mean shit when you dont have a source

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last time i checked he was happy to wear our jersey and its peasant behavour to consistantly lose controll of your bladder by thinking how and why and where a player might possibly leave perhaps maybe


i'll stick to enjoying when he's here and worry about meltdowns when he isnt anymore

sorry for beeing old fashion

well whatever. I guess in 2-3 years we will still have people asking for a 433 and Dybala on the wing. Some guys will never learn