Massimiliano Allegri (207 Viewers)

[Post Ironic]

We started well, we controlled the game, faught hard to get that goal and then became overconfident and lost focus, Allegri should scream at them louder...

 

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[JCK]

We started well, we controlled the game, faught hard to get that goal and then became overconfident and lost focus, Allegri should scream at them louder...

That's it, you ARE the ultimate jinx

 

[Ronn]

maybe i exaggerate, but we were losing possession too easily at times and Pogba is excellent at holding the ball, i feel like he would help us in taking off the pressure of Pjanic and the backline. too me thats very important which is why i said it would help a lot

He is also excellent in losing the ball at times when he wants to do everything by himself. Come on! you're not saying you don't remember his frustrating performances when team was playing bad?

 

[j0ker]

Allegri said before the season he considers Pjanic a mezzala, not a regista.

Today, he was used as a regista. What does this tell you ?

That he is a lying SOB?

 

[zizinho]

The best part is that history is repeating itself, as we needed that holding mid today to move pjanic to his preferred position, while Pogba is beeing just as dogshit horrible at united

Pogba came to United without any preseason and is being played the opposite of what he should be. Marchisios lack of presence wasnt felt even one game so far, except for today where we really lacked a 3rd WC player in the central area. Marchisio is WC and very important, but not the difference between us playing well and sucking

 

[Hydde]

He is also excellent in losing the ball at times when he wants to do everything by himself. Come on! you're not saying you don't remember his frustrating performances when team was playing bad?

He needs prime vidal and pirlo to bail him out.

With everyday passing he seems to be a disfunctional walking ego.

 

[italiacalcio10]

He is also excellent in losing the ball at times when he wants to do everything by himself. Come on! you're not saying you don't remember his frustrating performances when team was playing bad?

Pogba is at his worst when he tries to do too much...totally.

 

[Zacheryah]

maybe i exaggerate, but we were losing possession too easily at times and Pogba is excellent at holding the ball, i feel like he would help us in taking off the pressure of Pjanic and the backline. too me thats very important which is why i said it would help a lot

I said the same in the live thread. (you can check my posts to verify).

However it wouldnt change alot about us struggeling in the holding mid position. Hence Pogba would struggle aswel without the holding mid beeing on point.


Thats why we need Marchisio or Lemina. Allegri agrees :

Allegri: 'Defeat must burn Juve'
By Football Italia staff

Max Allegri admits Inter deserved their victory in the Derby d’Italia and “hopefully Juventus can learn from it, because this defeat has to burn.”

Stephan Lichtsteiner had opened the scoring before Mauro Icardi nodded in and then set up the winner for Ivan Perisic at 2-1.

“After taking the lead, we didn’t even hold it for two minutes,” Allegri told Sky Sport Italia.

“We got sluggish and complacent, dropping the intensity levels. This defeat has to burn within us and teach us a real lesson, getting our feet back on the ground.

“It was a 'dirty’ game, rough and a real battle. We needed more determination and hunger to bring home the result, especially once we had gone in front.”

Miralem Pjanic struggled to make his mark in the deep-lying playmaker role, which had previously been taken by Mario Lemina.

“I think Pjanic had an intelligent game in front of the defence. Lemina did well for a few games, but don’t forget he only played nine times last season, so we can’t put too much pressure on him.

“The real problem today is that Juventus were bad on a technical level – we gave the ball away cheaply, misplaced passes and above all conceded our third goal of the season on a corner.

“It’s not easy for strikers when the whole team is playing badly. We need to relax, start preparing for the Cagliari game and put together a run of good results.

“It’s not a tragedy. I was worried we’d have such a strong series of early fixtures, but the lads largely did well. I think every now and then a defeat like this can do us good, if we are smart and humble enough to learn from it.”

Couple this with Allegri saying that he considers Pjanic a mezzala, not a regista.


He was rotating Lemina. He knows perfectly well that Lemina at the regista with Pjanic at the mezzala works endlessly better



You can all stop worrying now

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That he is a lying SOB?

See above

 

[zizinho]

He is also excellent in losing the ball at times when he wants to do everything by himself. Come on! you're not saying you don't remember his frustrating performances when team was playing bad?

if youre talking about the beginning of last season, that was an off period. nothing in his 4 year time here suggests that he would repeat such a period again

 

[PhRoZeN]

We started well, we controlled the game, faught hard to get that goal and then became overconfident and lost focus, Allegri should scream at them louder...

No the screamer is in London. Allegri is not known for screaming.

 

[Cerval]

Allegri is alternating players left and right because of the pressure on them.

 

[Post Ironic]

That's it, you ARE the ultimate jinx

This much we agree on. Cronios needs to get negative again, or this season might really be lost.

 

[zizinho]

I said the same in the live thread. (you can check my posts to verify).

However it wouldnt change alot about us struggeling in the holding mid position. Hence Pogba would struggle aswel without the holding mid beeing on point.


Thats why we need Marchisio or Lemina. Allegri agrees :



Couple this with Allegri saying that he considers Pjanic a mezzala, not a regista.


He was rotating Lemina. He knows perfectly well that Lemina at the regista with Pjanic at the mezzala works endlessly better



You can all stop worrying now

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See above

i completely agree that Pjanic is much better as mezzala but hes also good infront of defense, if surrounded by right players. Asa isnt a player that can play at this level with the kind of intensity inter was playing with anymore and Khedira had a bad game too. i dont know, i would have played Nanes infront of defense and Pjanic higher up if i wanted to rotate Lemina, he (Nanes) usually steps up for the big games for us

 

[Ronn]

if youre talking about the beginning of last season, that was an off period. nothing in his 4 year time here suggests that he would repeat such a period again

He is doing it very well in United right now
But seriously who wouldn't love having Pogba instead of Asa today? The thing is, we should do much more with what we have, and our performance is around 50 percent of what squad is capable of. Pogba would've helped? sure. So would Vidal. But that doesn't mean much really

 

[PhRoZeN]

Allegri is alternating players left and right because of the pressure on them.

Maybe that's a blessing then and we won't see asamoah for a while... Or maybe we won't just see our players at all on the pitch!

 

[Zacheryah]

i completely agree that Pjanic is much better as mezzala but hes also good infront of defense, if surrounded by right players. Asa isnt a player that can play at this level with the kind of intensity inter was playing with anymore and Khedira had a bad game too. i dont know, i would have played Nanes infront of defense and Pjanic higher up if i wanted to rotate Lemina, he (Nanes) usually steps up for the big games for us

Thats pretty much what i also thought as soon as i realised that Pjanic wasnt playing mezzala


Last season, nanes was usually the go-to cheesio replacement. And improved as the season went on

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Allegri is alternating players left and right because of the pressure on them.

 

[zizinho]

That's true for sure. One of the problems was that Inter was pressing us, and we played quite defensively. Icardi actually made life quite difficult for Pjanic. Just like the Sevilla game, if we didn't approach the game so defensively and fielded our best attackers, and pressed Inter, Pjanic wouldn't have been under so much pressure when in possession. The problem is that we didn't force Inter to play deep. A guy like Cuadrado would help there too because he really causes chaos with his dribbling. At this point IMO, you also need to play Pjanic as a LCM and put in Hernanes as the regista when Lemina isn't in, for the mere fact that he played well there last year when Marchisio first went down.

agree. Licht ha a lot of space few times but couldnt do much (nice goal tho) so Cuads would have helped us in getting some pressure off our backline. agree about Hernanes too, i feel he would have a good game

 

[Zacheryah]

agree. Licht ha a lot of space few times but couldnt do much (nice goal tho) so Cuads would have helped us in getting some pressure off our backline. agree about Hernanes too, i feel he would have a good game

Hernanes dribbeling out of trouble when pressed coupled with Pjanic in a higher mezzala position to play it off to with space around him, would have worked quite well

 

[Hist]

we still finished with 91, which is as much as Barca had. we were dropping points at the start, Barca was dropping points through out the season

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Pjanic-Khedira a struggling midfield?

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you know thats not true

You are missing the point. I am not saying Barca is more dominant in their league than we are in ours. I am saying if we had a quality team in Serie A we wouldn't afford such poor starts. Apart from the mental barrier a club would have when it knows its trailing Barca by 10 points, 91 points in La Liga is much more impressive than in Serie A because of the quality difference. A Barca like club would easily get 91 points in Italy.

We are luck to be alone in Serie A now. It gives us breathing space to work on Europe. Better start using that to close the gap on Bayern.

 

[zizinho]

He is doing it very well in United right now
But seriously who wouldn't love having Pogba instead of Asa today? The thing is, we should do much more with what we have, and our performance is around 50 percent of what squad is capable of. Pogba would've helped? sure. So would Vidal. But that doesn't mean much really

im tempted to reply to that 1st sentence but lets stop about him now. we have more important matters to talk about in this thread