Massimiliano Allegri (230 Viewers)

[Liviu]

Reports say Real target Allegri...is there a release clause in his contract?

 

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[Vlad]

These players in whatever formation should not get thrashed 3-0 by this toothless Inter. The formation is one factor as is the fact that these players were never fielded all at once before, however the mental approach to the game was terrible and is to me the main factor. We played the game as if the tie was already over and barely even bothered to go through the motions. We didn't even threaten their goal. Allegri himself acknowledged the complacency.

This is a good lesson and a good experience to have especially that we still made it through to the final. Our inexperienced players need to learn that no matter the score in the first tie you need to show up and try to win the game. No one said give 100% and leave the field spitting blood, but we shouldnt be this relaxed either. If we had showed up with 70% of our mental capacity looking for a narrow 1-0 win we would have made it to the next stage and Inter would have continued being low on confidence. We might have given them a free confidence booster today. Juve should never be thrashed 3-0 by anyone inferior let alone our worst rival even if its a B team. There is nothing to be proud of in this performance. It has complacency and lack of urgency all over it be it by allegri or by the squad or both.

Yes, because I said that was a great game from us.

Pretty obvious that If you field reserves against motivated side that has nothing to lose and has decent quality among their ranks you severely reduce your chances for obtaining good result. This would have been on a coach, but we progressed so no harm done and most of our players were given well deserved rest. I couldn't care less if this Juve side lose odd game now and then, the important thing is to meet objectives. Ofc we could have fielded our strongest 11 every week, could have probably won last night and then go on to face Bayern and get our asses handed to them, but that's what Conte would do.

 

[Hist]

Very good post. Objective.

A bit too short, but still didn't read it. Keep it up

I am too objective for you to get under my skin. You are stuck in the subjective point of view and so you delude yourself into thinking that this is a clever post and might do the job. If you were objective like me, you'd have seen the truth about your delusion. I can help you see the light, but that would involve you reading more very long good objective posts.

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Yes, because I said that was a great game from us.

Pretty obvious that If you field reserves against motivated side that has nothing to lose and has decent quality among their ranks you severely reduce your chances for obtaining good result. This would have been on a coach, but we progressed so no harm done and most of our players were given well deserved rest. I couldn't care less if this Juve side lose odd game now and then, the important thing is to meet objectives. Ofc we could have fielded our strongest 11 every week, could have probably won last night and then go on to face Bayern and get our asses handed to them, but that's what Conte would do.

Thats not what I suggested either.

I suggested we were mentally complacent. You denied the complacency and said its the formation and the player selection. I acknowledged these as factors but added that the complacency was a larger factor basically arguing that 3-0 is too bad even if its a substitutes team in a bad formation. Allegri gave the same assessment:

"I did expect Inter to cause us problems and I said many times in the Press conference that we weren’t qualified. It would’ve been better to start at 0-0, because having a 3-0 lead took something away from us in terms of concentration.
“It’s happened to me before, my Milan won the first leg 3-0 with Arsenal, then we were 4-0 down in London. It’s a dangerous situation.
“This is another part of the growth process, as when you have young players and go into games that seem easy and aren’t, you learn to do better. Inter deserve credit and we deserve criticism"

 

[Raz]

I am too objective for you to get under my skin. You are stuck in the subjective point of view and so you delude yourself into thinking that this is a clever post and might do the job. If you were objective like me, you'd have seen the truth about your delusion. I can help you see the light, but that would involve you reading more very long good objective posts.

Again a top post, your efforts will be rewarded

 

[Nzoric]

Get a job, hist.

 

[rndmlgnd]

I'm not one for comparing coaches, but last night's game clearly showed the difference between Conte's Juve and Allegri's.

While Allegri surely takes more risks and plays football that is more attacking, I'm pretty sure Conte's Juve would never lose to Inter like that after going 3-0 up in the first leg.

 

[alexjuventino]

I'm not one for comparing coaches, but last night's game clearly showed the difference between Conte's Juve and Allegri's.

While Allegri surely takes more risks and plays football that is more attacking, I'm pretty sure Conte's Juve would never lose to Inter like that after going 3-0 up in the first leg.

Yea you're right we wouldn't even have made it this far with Conte's Juve

 

[rndmlgnd]

Yea you're right we wouldn't even have made it this far with Conte's Juve

That's off my point, bro.

 

[.zero]

Madrid offering Max 7M/year

 

[LiquidPLP]

I'm not one for comparing coaches, but last night's game clearly showed the difference between Conte's Juve and Allegri's.

While Allegri surely takes more risks and plays football that is more attacking, I'm pretty sure Conte's Juve would never lose to Inter like that after going 3-0 up in the first leg.

We lost 3-1 at home in a much more important game tbh. These things happen to any club tbh. It sucks when you lose 3-0 but Allegri really had to rest our starters who barely were rotated because of the injury crisis.

 

[Elvin]

Result is all that matters and Max has been delivering.

 

[VuvuzelaBzz]

I'm not one for comparing coaches, but last night's game clearly showed the difference between Conte's Juve and Allegri's.

While Allegri surely takes more risks and plays football that is more attacking, I'm pretty sure Conte's Juve would never lose to Inter like that after going 3-0 up in the first leg.

Juventus lose at home to 10-man Sampdoria

We had plenty of poor showings under Conte. Last night's game was dreadful to watch, but that will happen occasionally regardless of who's managing.

 

[rndmlgnd]

Allegri has a tendency to get a little lackadaisical. Takes a while for him to see the game on the field, from the way he originally planned it. If at all. Bayern and Inter games have proven that he relies on instinct and at times perhaps needs to impose himself or his ideas on the players and team a bit more, from a mental and tactical perspective.

I agree. That's probably why he yelled at Lemina when he was coming on.

 

[Vlad]

Thats not what I suggested either.

I suggested we were mentally complacent. You denied the complacency and said its the formation and the player selection. I acknowledged these as factors but added that the complacency was a larger factor basically arguing that 3-0 is too bad even if its a substitutes team in a bad formation. Allegri gave the same assessment:

"I did expect Inter to cause us problems and I said many times in the Press conference that we weren’t qualified. It would’ve been better to start at 0-0, because having a 3-0 lead took something away from us in terms of concentration.
“It’s happened to me before, my Milan won the first leg 3-0 with Arsenal, then we were 4-0 down in London. It’s a dangerous situation.
“This is another part of the growth process, as when you have young players and go into games that seem easy and aren’t, you learn to do better. Inter deserve credit and we deserve criticism"

Omg, I just added player selection, formation, ref as one of the reasons. The fact that I said motivated team when describing inter should be indicative that I also think that we took this game lightly (at least less important one than Inter players did) which was also part of the problem, eventhough I think selection of the players was somewhat a bigger one. When you field 3 mids that have never played competitive game together, when you field 20 yo defender that has barely featured so far you're looking for trouble. This kind of collapse would have never happened in the CL or Serie A, since we give a damn about those competitions and players are more motivated to perform.

I've read somewhere (was it here?!) that we're mentally fragile and that just This is a team that come back from 0-2 against Bayern, that has piled 15 consecutive wins, that has 16 wins in last 17 games in the league, that hasn't conceded for 8 games in a row...

 

[Siamak]

 

[Zacheryah]

 

[Ocelot]

She has the exact same face as her old man

 

[lgorTudor]

Easily our worst performance since the Conte era

I say in this season alone we had more terrifying games.

0 shots on target vs Bologna is scarier for me than yesterday

She has the exact same face as her old man

Spoiler

 

[.zero]

I totally would

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And I bet Sturaro already did

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Damn Valentina...sweet body. Head is a bit like Dad though...