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Mar 10, 2009
8,683
Allegri is far from blamess, but I still believe in him.

Fact is, we did do a Dortmund/A.Madrid, we sold 2 of our best players and spent it on quantity rather than quality.

This season was always going to be a transition, problem is however Serie A in general has got a lot stronger. I still think we will pick up form and finish in the top 3 this season. Allegri is a good manager, he took an average ac milan in 2013 in top 3 he will come good this season once his team is ready. Got a laugh at these potential replacements: Ancelotti and Klopp, when Allegri outclassed them last year.
 

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Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,615
I'm not disagreeing with this, but there is deeper issues here. Even if we kept Pirlo the issues would still be here
I don't think we'd be where we are now thats for sure. We would have a fully functioning midfield which would allow Pogba to do his Mojo as well as Morata/Manzukic. Dybala wouldn't have to try to be a one man team either. We would only feel the difference between Tevez and a well-supported Dybala which is a lot better than having every attacking player without support and the team getting counter attacked every time a destroyer tries to pretend to be a play maker.

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I'm not disagreeing with this, but there is deeper issues here. Even if we kept Pirlo the issues would still be here
I don't think we'd be where we are now thats for sure. We would have a fully functioning midfield which would allow Pogba to do his Mojo as well as Morata/Manzukic. Dybala wouldn't have to try to be a one man team either. We would only feel the difference between Tevez and a well-supported Dybala which is a lot better than having every attacking player without support and the team getting counter attacked every time a destroyer tries to pretend to be a play maker.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,615
Allegri is far from blamess, but I still believe in him.

Fact is, we did do a Dortmund/A.Madrid, we sold 2 of our best players and spent it on quantity rather than quality.

This season was always going to be a transition, problem is however Serie A in general has got a lot stronger. I still think we will pick up form and finish in the top 3 this season. Allegri is a good manager, he took an average ac milan in 2013 in top 3 he will come good this season once his team is ready. Got a laugh at these potential replacements: Ancelotti and Klopp, when Allegri outclassed them last year.
Its not just the difference in quality between the incoming and the out going. Can any of the incoming players perform the same role that the outgoing ones did at any half a decent level? If you sell your distributor and buy a ball winner regardless of how good the ball winner is, then you still have a giant hole to fill in the distributor role.

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So honestly, who of u wants him gone already and who still believes?
I believe that if Marchisio is back and hits last season's form we will do much better. Not last season quality but we wont be a bunch of headless chickens. I hope it happens soon enough before all the winning mentality is wiped out of the team. I still believe.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Allegri should have never started Padoin or Hernanes at anything but a TQ. Should have been a 352 with Sandro on one side and Cuadrado on the other.
 

B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,626
Again pre season talk, well we are a month and half into the season. Pre season wouldn last a year for fuck sake. Players havent gelled maybe its because every game theres too much change.

This has been one of the highest spending summer for Juve, spending 40mil on a player is as highest Ive seen Juve spending on a single player or close to 30mil on a fullback. Please drop the quantity bullshit talk.
 

Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
22,514
Lol, people overrate the players we have, look at the squad at the disposal of Allegri right now, yes we should be able to beat the likes of Chievo and Frosinone, but player by player our team don't have that edge anymore, Napoli have a better attack, possibly a better MF. Roma have a better attack and a better MF. Inter have a better attack and a better defence...
What made our team great last year is that we played as a unit, every player was ready to sacrifice for the other player that's how we edged that gap in quality with the other teams, but our brillant director decided to fuck that.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Cheese man fucking stop already. Stop acting like there is only one person to blame. I'd hope you would be wise enough to see that Allegri can also be at fault.
 

hojo_samurai

Senior Member
May 13, 2015
1,092
Lol, people overrate the players we have, look at the squad at the disposal of Allegri right now, yes we should be able to beat the likes of Chievo and Frosinone, but player by player our team don't have that edge anymore, Napoli have a better attack, possibly a better MF. Roma have a better attack and a better MF. Inter have a better attack and a better defence...
What made our team great last year is that we played as a unit, every player was ready to sacrifice for the other player that's how we edged that gap in quality with the other teams, but our brillant director decided to $#@! that.
:beppe:
 

Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
22,514
Cheese man fucking stop already. Stop acting like there is only one person to blame. I'd hope you would be wise enough to see that Allegri can also be at fault.

I said that, he should be blamed and the squad in hand should be able to perform better, what shouldn't be done is making him the only scape goat. Marotta should also be blamed for the disastrous summer dealings. Don't forget that Allegri only asked for one player this summer and he didn't get it.
 

hojo_samurai

Senior Member
May 13, 2015
1,092
A gotze or a draxler would not have fixed anything today.
actually we are suffering due to losses vs Udinese, draws vs Frosinone and Chievo, those games have really effed us and that's how I know we are really terrible because those teams are really terrible except maybe Chievo but they will be in the long run.
I fear for the games vs Inter, Milan, Torino, Hellas (away), Palermo (away), Torino (H/A), Sassuolo (H/A), people will laugh and say we got this (same as some of us warned before the season began that we are not strong and will suffer in the league this season and were laughed at), Serie A teams actually don't fear us anymore, even those at the bottom of the chain.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,018
Allegri isn't that great of a coach, but it's true the main problem is Marotta. He needs to go. Even if we sack Allegri we'll get stuck with another dumbfuck Italian coach not worth the time. Marotta can only deliver personnel nobody else wants, so you can guarantee we'll get stuck with some clown like Mazzarri.
 

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