Massimiliano Allegri (479 Viewers)

[baggio]

Yes, keep praising Marotta for bringing the most random players one could ever imagine. Luckily I am not the only one saying that anymore, slowly a lot of people are realising that and in the end it will be you and two or three others who failt to see it.

Redundant argument in these parts. They'll never see it. Not even if we finish 7th, because Allegri will be the fall guy.

We hit the post twice today dude. Plus we scored a goal. Those were great chances.

We had tested the goalie 11 times...say it with me again...WE TESTED THE GOALIE 11 TIMES TODAY.

Good stats, but it's not going to change over the course of the season. The team is in disarray. A season is long, and we are going to be stretched in Europe as well. Confidence is at an all time low. Allegri isn't a man manager, and he injuries don't help. The mercato was the most poorly planned perhaps in our history. All the makings of a disastrous season. We aren't winning the Scudetto. My worry is making the CL qualifying rounds and third place. Let's see how that pans out. Too much to fix for the season ahead. Stuff like this doesn't turn around overnight. Allegri needs to give this team an identity before we spiral into damage control.

 

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[JCK]

I can see a few people here are obviously taking the easy way out with their usual scapegoat.

At the end of the day, if your team is creating as many chances as we are but not converting them into goals then you see what happened today. It is absolutely incredible to see how many chances we are creating but not finishing the game. Even our best lineup last year or two wouldn't have created as many chances as consistently as we are.

Once we are back to full fitness in our lineups and once our forwards start clicking you will see a lot less bitching here.

I blame Allegri for the lineup but he corrected that at halftime and we immediately saw the improvements. And you can blame all our "young" players for not running down the clock, well guess what fuckers our SEASONED defense conceded and our world class pogba was caught napping. NOTHING about our result today was down to inexperience.

When you have proper players who understand each other and function as a team, once they realise that their efforts are not going anywhere and once they realise it is 5 minutes from bagging three points they would have stopped the continuous shooting and losinig the ball. At many times during the second half Frosinone looked like they can step up a bit and cause us damage. Our players did not see that because they are amateurs, they are not used to winning and there are no leaders on the pitch no matter who you or others would like to call leaders. We don't have anyone, we sold them all. We took the lead and tried to bag the game but we were erratic and random and the fact that Marotta brought a bunch of random players verifies our behaviour thus far this season. Random. Random lineups, random tactics, random reactions.

 

[Lancelot]

I'm sure now, we are doing a Barcelona from last season. Terrible beginning and a treble at the end.

Pls explain how 7 wins and 1 draw in the first 8 games is a terrible beginning?

 

[Hust]

Redundant argument in these parts. They'll never see it. Not even if we finish 7th, because Allegri will be the fall guy.



Good stats, but it's not going to change over the course of the season. The team is in disarray. A season is long, and we are going to be stretched in Europe as well. Confidence is at an all time low. Allegri isn't a man manager, and he injuries don't help. The mercato was the most poorly planned perhaps in our history. All the makings of a disastrous season. We aren't winning the Scudetto. My worry is making the CL qualifying rounds and third place. Let's see how that pans out. Too much to fix for the season ahead. Stuff like this doesn't turn around overnight. Allegri needs to give this team an identity before we spiral into damage control.

They are good stats. They will be even better once we start consistently putting the ball in the back of the net which will make arguments like these useless.

 

[Salvo]

"it was right to concede a goal that late in a game that we didn't manage well enough, same for the game against Genoa against 10 men. We continue to force plays instead of slowing down. A young team can pay in this way. It wouldve been good to win but we need to learn from this. We need to grow otherwise we will remain a team that can win against anyone and lose against anyone. I changed to a 3-5-2 to widen the game and use Cuadrado and Alex Sandro's strengths."

 

[AngelaL]

Stupid starting eleven, stupid tactics, stupid subs.

Feels like a 7th place season, reminiscent of the Del Neri days.

Just what I thought! Like the Del Neri days, Juve stop playing when they reach the opposition's goal area & end up giving the ball away.

It's all on Allegri, how can he not create a team with all the jewels he was handed?

Good question! One reason could be that some of our players arrived late/were bought at the end of the summer mercato, hence they have not had time to 'gel' as a team.

Maxi needs to get to grips with the teams flaws. We need to get rid of the "Del Neri" ghost.

1) NEVER sit back on a one goal lead! That attitude cost us 2 points tonight.
2) Treat ALL teams like we are playing for the scudetto/CL. All teams raise their game when they play us. That means Juve players must always give 100% EVERY Game!
3) Maxi needs to sort oiut the following: -

• Stop the faffing about outside the opposition's goal area - a lot of possession was lost because of indecision and time wasting.
• The team needs to stop sitting back on a one goal lead & aim to score 4-5 goals per game. They may not succeed to score five, but they should try.
• accuracy of passing needs to be improved - a lot!
• Ditto getting goals - more practice of scoring from different angles & distances is blatantly required!

 

[Vlad]

"it was right to concede a goal that late in a game that we didn't manage well enough, same for the game against Genoa against 10 men. We continue to force plays instead of slowing down. A young team can pay in this way. It wouldve been good to win but we need to learn from this. We need to grow otherwise we will remain a team that can win against anyone and lose against anyone. I changed to a 3-5-2 to widen the game and use Cuadrado and Alex Sandro's strengths."

He's spot on.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

"it was right to concede a goal that late in a game that we didn't manage well enough, same for the game against Genoa against 10 men. We continue to force plays instead of slowing down. A young team can pay in this way. It wouldve been good to win but we need to learn from this. We need to grow otherwise we will remain a team that can win against anyone and lose against anyone. I changed to a 3-5-2 to widen the game and use Cuadrado and Alex Sandro's strengths."

This is so random like everything about this club of late.

 

[Salvo]

This is so random like everything about this club of late.

How so?

 

[kao_ray]

Pls explain how 7 wins and 1 draw in the first 8 games is a terrible beginning?

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11828/9635299/la-liga-are-barcelona-in-crisis-five-problems-currently-gripping-the-nou-camp-giants

http://www.espnfc.com/barcelona/story/2126633/luis-enrique-not-at-fault-for-barcelonas-problems-johan-cruyff

Happy now?

 

[DelpieroForLife]

How so?

Allegri is basically blaming it on the fact that our team is young, what's his magical cure for that?

 

[AngelaL]

Allegri - We must work to improve the team and bring it to some degree, we have to grow

He should have done this pre-season!

 

[JCK]

He should have done this pre-season!

When Marotta was selling his players and flooding him with random purchaces?

 

[Salvo]

"Without Marchisio, Khedira and Mandzu we lack experience, we are paying for this. There have been years where corners at the 92nd minute wouldnt amount to anything, now it goes like this. We should never have given away the corner, with 20 minutes to go we shouldn't have forced plays but rather gone for a sure shot. They weren't troubling us, its the same thing as Genoa where we forced plays, we need to grow.

In the 90th minute we had a corner that we quickly tried to take, a huge error. We cant get down about it but rather learn from it and be awake to these issues. Same issues in this game as there were against Genoa.

We are lacking in goals, however there are times where you cant just look to score straight away, you need to keep the ball, work it, be patient. We are too generous, football games need to be interpreted in a different manner, with serenity understanding when you can do certain things and cant."

 

[il brutto]

Sell everyone fire everyone bench everyone.

Okay I think I'm getting hang of this now.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

"Without Marchisio, Khedira and Mandzu we lack experience, we are paying for this. There have been years where corners at the 92nd minute wouldnt amount to anything, now it goes like this. We should never have given away the corner, with 20 minutes to go we shouldn't have forced plays but rather gone for a sure shot. They weren't troubling us, its the same thing as Genoa where we forced plays, we need to grow.

In the 90th minute we had a corner that we quickly tried to take, a huge error. We cant get down about it but rather learn from it and be awake to these issues. Same issues in this game as there were against Genoa.

We are lacking in goals, however there are times where you cant just look to score straight away, you need to keep the ball, work it, be patient. We are too generous, football games need to be interpreted in a different manner, with serenity understanding when you can do certain things and cant."

Oh and Frosinone is so experienced
Neto, Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, Pogba, Dybala, Zaza, Cuadrado, Sandro are all experienced and 10 time better players than Frosinone ever had
another bullshit statement, he became conte v2.0

 

[Mike-e-y]

Not a fan at all of what allegri said. We need a conte attitude at the moment, he needs to be angry because this isn't anywhere near acceptable. I hate this shit about having 'young players' he keeps spurting out

Our team isn't that fucking young!

He needs to kick some ass because the softly softly approach isn't working

 

[JCK]

Allegri was accepting dropping points last season, this time he seems to give an excuse.

 

[Hist]

This feels like an Allegri AC Milan season. Terrible start that will take sometime to recover from. I think all we can go there is a top 3 finish now which should be within reach especially that Roma, Milan and Napoli are not functioning well either so far.

Again I wouldn't blame Allegri for failure to replicate last season's form. This is for a number of reasons:
A) The squad had an exceptional mentality last season. Its only natural that it wont be the same this season.

B) Marotta made radical changes to the squad. Losing 3 figures like Pirlo, Vidal and Tevez is bound to affect any team regardless of who you buy as replacements.

C) Marotta did not manage the transfers right leaving Allegri with a very imbalanced squad. I am not concerned with purchase/sale prices I am concerned with the type of players we bought. We did not buy a single good player that can pass the ball and connect the midfield players with each other and with the attackers from a deep CM position. Having Marchisio as the only maestro in the team when he only displayed his competence at doing so for 1 season on top of a career of inconsistency in general puts a huge bet on Marchisio's form. Whats even worse is that Marchisio is the only player we have that can do this job (when on form) and so if he is injured we are left with a bunch of ball-winners in midfield and no distributors. Distributors are the heart of any team regardless of formation. Even if we don't play a formation where the regista is the main creative force (like conte's 3-5-2), any formation needs one distributor at the very least. Lets hope Marchisio remains injury free AND replicates last season's form until next summer.

For these reasons I blame Marrotta not Allegri for a decrease in Juve's quality. In other words he did not give him a squad that can perform at the same level of last year and he carries the burden of that portion of the blame.

Having said that, I still do think that our squad (as imbalanced as it is) is still more than good enough for a coach like Allegri to mount a serious title challenge. The ten point difference is way too much regardless of the imbalanced squad Marotta gave Allegri. I think this imbalanced squad with a coach of Allegri's resume ought to win Serie A or at the very worst come second by a tiny margin. Anything worse than that is just shameful failure. If we don't mount a serious 10 game winning streak or something of that sort soon, the question will not be whether Allegri has failed, It will be how badly did he fail. Marotta has already flopped this transfer season in my books unless Hernanes turns out to be a great midfield maestro.

 

[Juventus 32]

Allegri was accepting dropping points last season, this time he seems to give an excuse.

If he dosn't do something,will be fired in the next 3-4 games.

Agnelli it's not Berlusconi.