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Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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Zaza to start for Juventus?
By Football Italia staff

Juventus could revert to a 4-3-1-2 for the visit of Frosinone, with Simone Zaza starting in attack.

The Bianconeri went with a 4-3-3 for the wins over Manchester City and Genoa, but could use a 4-3-1-2 for tomorrow’s match.

Coach Massimiliano Allegri has already confirmed that Neto will start in goal in place of Gigi Buffon, with Giorgio Chiellini likely to be rested for this encounter.

That would see Andrea Barzagli partner Leonardo Bonucci in central defence, with Alex Sandro in line to make his second start of the season at left-back in place of Patrice Evra.

Simone Zaza could make his first start for the Old Lady with Alvaro Morata and Mario Mandzukic injured, with Paulo Dybala likely to partner him up-front.

Roberto Pereyra should play behind the strikers, with either Mario Lemina or Stefano Sturaro partnering Hernanes and Paul Pogba in the middle of the park.

Probable Juventus team to face Frosinone: Neto; Lichtsteiner, Barzagli, Bonucci, Alex Sandro; Lemina, Hernanes, Pogba; Pereyra; Dybala, Zaza.

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Smart man, Allegri.. Smart man. @Azzurri7
 

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Dec 16, 2003
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Zaza to start for Juventus?
By Football Italia staff

Juventus could revert to a 4-3-1-2 for the visit of Frosinone, with Simone Zaza starting in attack.

The Bianconeri went with a 4-3-3 for the wins over Manchester City and Genoa, but could use a 4-3-1-2 for tomorrow’s match.

Coach Massimiliano Allegri has already confirmed that Neto will start in goal in place of Gigi Buffon, with Giorgio Chiellini likely to be rested for this encounter.

That would see Andrea Barzagli partner Leonardo Bonucci in central defence, with Alex Sandro in line to make his second start of the season at left-back in place of Patrice Evra.

Simone Zaza could make his first start for the Old Lady with Alvaro Morata and Mario Mandzukic injured, with Paulo Dybala likely to partner him up-front.

Roberto Pereyra should play behind the strikers, with either Mario Lemina or Stefano Sturaro partnering Hernanes and Paul Pogba in the middle of the park.

Probable Juventus team to face Frosinone: Neto; Lichtsteiner, Barzagli, Bonucci, Alex Sandro; Lemina, Hernanes, Pogba; Pereyra; Dybala, Zaza.

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Smart man, Allegri.. Smart man. @Azzurri7
:agree: He knows how to handle these moments.
 

PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
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He again said that Dybala is a prima punta, and uses the same space as Zaza...

So we basically have 4 guys for the same position: Morata - Mandzukic - Dybala - Zaza

Errr no good
 

Nzoric

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Jan 16, 2011
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He again said that Dybala is a prima punta, and uses the same space as Zaza...

So we basically have 4 guys for the same position: Morata - Mandzukic - Dybala - Zaza

Errr no good
Considering the fact that our players seem to last shorter than the first wave of soldiers at Omaha beach, this is one of the times where you can't argue against the value of quantity.
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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He again said that Dybala is a prima punta, and uses the same space as Zaza...

So we basically have 4 guys for the same position: Morata - Mandzukic - Dybala - Zaza

Errr no good
The quote I'm seeing is merely saying that they are both central strikers.

I don't interpret that as meaning they are both classed as centre-forwards - just that they won't play wide or trequartista.

Juve will still play 4-3-1-2 an awful lot this season, including tomorrow, so I don't quite see what the problem is.
 

PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
7,166
The problem is that Cuadrado has suddenly become one of the most important players of this team, he has to be a regular starter.

So someone will have to slide through the left side, and 2 of these guys will have to play along each other all the time.

Let's just hope Dybala can do it. But Allegri's words are not encouraging.
 

PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
7,166
Seeing Vidal playing great for Bayern again, with great passing, back to form, really hurts...

This is where we miss the most right now, along with injuries and Pogba's dip in form.

Tevez was possibly the most important player of the team, along with Pogba, last season. But he was kind of replaced by Cuadrado in the starting lineup, a guy who works as hard as him, is actually quicker than him, widens the game, can dribble even more than him. Of course their finishing and killer instinct is incomparable, but Cuadrado supplies some, or a lot that we lost with Tevez. Damage contained.

But right now, the replacement for Vidal is Sturaro. We just don't have a clear cut substitute for him, and actually, if Vidal is in form, he is irreplaceable in any team of the world. The difference between Sturaro and Vidal is absolutely HUGE, offensively speaking. We miss soooo much of build up and offense without Vidal. All the other options leave a lot on the table, like Khedira, Lemina, Hernanes. Pereyra is probably the closest replacement, but we'll lose defending.

It just hurts to see Vidal doing great again. His form and experience would be absolutely vital for the current team.

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So as far as our team goes, I really really hope Dybala and Morata can understand each other and take turns in the left side of the pitch. Make it work with Cuadrado. That would be beautiful, the best we could get to fully replace Tevez.

And I really love Pereyra's game, he's inconstant sometimes, but very very talented and with good stamina and workrate. He must be a starter IMO.

So if Pereryra can do a decent job defensively, helped by Cuadrado when defending on the right side, and if Dybala can get into the starting 11 and make it work with Morata at the left side of the pitch and the central part, with Pogba coming back to form, Alex Sandro providing more offensive power on the left (despite Evra's great start this season), Chiellini also in good form (like he showed against City, where he played his best game I can remember in the past seasons), we can have actually a GREAT team. Light, offensive, quick, aggressive, with width, young, dangerous.

So if my pipe dream happens (actually it depends on solely 2 things: Pereyra being able to take the CM spot and get the job done defensively; Dybala managing to mesh in the front 3), we'd have:

Buffon

Licht Bonucci Chiellini Sandro

Marchisio

Pogba Pereyra

Cuadrado Dybala

Morata


That's a great team. The problem would be the lack of offensive options in the bench, counting only on Hernanes (who really isn't an AM), Zaza, Mandzukic.

Depth for defense and midfield would be great - Neto, Caceres, Barzagli, Rugani, Evra, Lemina, Sturaro, Khedira, Hernanes.

But we would definitely have to get rid of Zaza in january and sign a useful AM and a LW (who should have been Coman). This way it would be nearly perfect for the current context.

The best of the worlds thought is Lemina developing as a great box-to-box CM. If he's capable of providing some offensive support, he'd definitely keep the Vidal grinta, defending and toughness, while having Pereyra available as some sort of 12th player, giving the bench a great boost. I just wish we could have kept Coman, than the bench would have been great - with Hernanes, Pereyra, Coman, Mandzukic as options. Really great.
 

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