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PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
7,166
This would be cool to see. So many reference points in attack, and quick footed players who can 1v1 like coman, pogba, tevez and morata.

Defenses would struggle in guessing from where the damage would come. The only problem would be the age of morata and coman and their experience. They could crack under pressure in top clashes. At least thats the excuse i see allegri using for not pulling this...with some reason.

But i would give it a go against lower teams in seire A to try something different.
My point yes.

Anyway, this year this team showed they can compete against the big boys without being embarassed.

But we clearly lack something to have a decent chance to win a matchup against one of the top3 or top4. Against all the rest it would be pretty even matched I think.

And this thing we lack I believe is more pace and criativity/dribbling upfront.
 

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La_Fidanzata

Senior Member
Feb 18, 2008
653
both matches were hard fought (at least till the last 10 minutes of last match) and teams had similar performances.

They are the best defending team of the world and the toughest on dead balls. We handled it well. I think we had a great first game despite the result.

What really hurts us now is the lack of a pacey LB and the lack of pace upfront. Tevez can't offer it anymore and Llorente is Llorente.

But I see us more prepared this year to face a big team. We'd have slim to no chances against Real or Bayern, but few teams would. Against any other team, including Barcelona and Chelsea, it will be a battle.

- - - Updated - - -

I think the main difference is that the team seems to be more confident now. You see less stupid nervous mistakes, like that of Caceres.

Bonucci had a moment in the first half but it was a clear foul IMO. He was pushed by the back.

We also badly need Vidal o his old form. But mainly we need more pace upfront. Morata for Llorente would it improve it well. But mainly Coman for Pereyra, with Tevez as a trequartista. I'd also insert Marchisio in for Pirlo, for better defending of the mid.

So IMO the most suited formation to play in Europe right now would be

-------Marchisio---------

---Vidal----------Pogba---

--------Tevez------------

Coman-------------------

------------Morata-------


I'd really like to see that. Even though it's not gonna happen of course. Coman would need more experience in Serie A. I just hope Allegri can consider this as an option during games. Pirlo makes our team slower and more fragile on defense; Tevez gives us more creativity for the buid up, Coman and Morata provide agressiveness and pace, that we much need. Some more verticality to the game.
Strange that you point out nervousness as a factor that may have hurted us before, yet you would like to see the "kid" coman on the field in our most important game this season.
 

La_Fidanzata

Senior Member
Feb 18, 2008
653
both matches were hard fought (at least till the last 10 minutes of last match) and teams had similar performances.

They are the best defending team of the world and the toughest on dead balls. We handled it well. I think we had a great first game despite the result.

What really hurts us now is the lack of a pacey LB and the lack of pace upfront. Tevez can't offer it anymore and Llorente is Llorente.

But I see us more prepared this year to face a big team. We'd have slim to no chances against Real or Bayern, but few teams would. Against any other team, including Barcelona and Chelsea, it will be a battle.

- - - Updated - - -

I think the main difference is that the team seems to be more confident now. You see less stupid nervous mistakes, like that of Caceres.

Bonucci had a moment in the first half but it was a clear foul IMO. He was pushed by the back.

We also badly need Vidal o his old form. But mainly we need more pace upfront. Morata for Llorente would it improve it well. But mainly Coman for Pereyra, with Tevez as a trequartista. I'd also insert Marchisio in for Pirlo, for better defending of the mid.

So IMO the most suited formation to play in Europe right now would be

-------Marchisio---------

---Vidal----------Pogba---

--------Tevez------------

Coman-------------------

------------Morata-------


I'd really like to see that. Even though it's not gonna happen of course. Coman would need more experience in Serie A. I just hope Allegri can consider this as an option during games. Pirlo makes our team slower and more fragile on defense; Tevez gives us more creativity for the buid up, Coman and Morata provide agressiveness and pace, that we much need. Some more verticality to the game.
Strange that you point out nervousness as a factor that may have hurted us before, yet you would like to see the "kid" coman on the field in our most important game this season.
 
Mar 3, 2014
3,866
My point yes.

Anyway, this year this team showed they can compete against the big boys without being embarassed.

But we clearly lack something to have a decent chance to win a matchup against one of the top3 or top4. Against all the rest it would be pretty even matched I think.

And this thing we lack I believe is more pace and criativity/dribbling upfront.
There's no reason we shouldn't be able to compete against the best of Europe. Our team is rock solid from top to bottom. The only teams that scare me are Bayern and Barcelona. Even Real Madrid we showed last year that we can compete against. We have one of the best midfields in the world. All we need is that one player to take us over the edge in the final third.

Seriously though, can you believe we were actually trying to compete internationally with Vucinic and Quag. Tevez is so much better than both of them.
 
Mar 3, 2014
3,866
My point yes.

Anyway, this year this team showed they can compete against the big boys without being embarassed.

But we clearly lack something to have a decent chance to win a matchup against one of the top3 or top4. Against all the rest it would be pretty even matched I think.

And this thing we lack I believe is more pace and criativity/dribbling upfront.
There's no reason we shouldn't be able to compete against the best of Europe. Our team is rock solid from top to bottom. The only teams that scare me are Bayern and Barcelona. Even Real Madrid we showed last year that we can compete against. We have one of the best midfields in the world. All we need is that one player to take us over the edge in the final third.

Seriously though, can you believe we were actually trying to compete internationally with Vucinic and Quag. Tevez is so much better than both of them.
 
Aug 1, 2003
17,696
both teams (Atletico and Juve) did not go all out yesterday. they did not need to. Atletico looked more likely to score, yes, but was quite happy to defend, and since Juve only needed a draw, we were quite happy to keep them at bay. we didn't even make any subs. there are far stronger teams in CL, yes, but this match is not really one where you can measure Juve's strength fully as both teams were not under pressure - they pretty much went for the draw.
 
Aug 1, 2003
17,696
both teams (Atletico and Juve) did not go all out yesterday. they did not need to. Atletico looked more likely to score, yes, but was quite happy to defend, and since Juve only needed a draw, we were quite happy to keep them at bay. we didn't even make any subs. there are far stronger teams in CL, yes, but this match is not really one where you can measure Juve's strength fully as both teams were not under pressure - they pretty much went for the draw.
 

napoleonic

Senior Member
Sep 7, 2010
4,129
Replace pirlo with am who play in front of our mids and our attacking play will be much better, as simple as that.

Why is it so hard to understand, goals from pogba marchisio vidal almost always happened when they had spaces to exploit, making them locked/static ahead of pirlo is why they become so bad, it doesn't help that llorente also became a tree in most of situation instead of helping our cm to attack forward
 

napoleonic

Senior Member
Sep 7, 2010
4,129
Replace pirlo with am who play in front of our mids and our attacking play will be much better, as simple as that.

Why is it so hard to understand, goals from pogba marchisio vidal almost always happened when they had spaces to exploit, making them locked/static ahead of pirlo is why they become so bad, it doesn't help that llorente also became a tree in most of situation instead of helping our cm to attack forward
 

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