Massimiliano Allegri (152 Viewers)

[KB824]

Funny thing is, if we were to travel back to just after the 2010-2011 season, and if we looked at the careers of Allegri and Conte up until that point.


IF both of them were available back then, and put sentiment aside and look strictly at what they had accomplished, 95% of this forum would have preferred Allegri over Conte.

 

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[Raz]

Conte was just another Ferrara at that point in time.

 

[KB824]

Meanwhile......


Allegri wins Bearzot Award
By Football Italia staff


Juventus Coach Max Allegri wins the Enzo Bearzot Award for his “ability to combine results with good football.”

The trophy to Italian tacticians is voted by a panel, including FIGC President Carlo Tavecchio, and last year was given to Carlo Ancelotti.

“During his career Allegri has always been able to build teams with the ability to combine results with good football,” read the statement.

“The achievements he reached were through focusing on a cohesive group, both on and off the field.

“Like the great Enzo Bearzot, Massimiliano Allegri always placed himself a step behind his players, giving them responsibility, but also guiding them with tactical wisdom and balance, remaining firm and calm.

“This working method seems to have become the hallmark of one of Italy’s best Coaches.”

The trophy will be handed over on May 25.

This award was founded in 2011 in honour of 1982 World Cup winning Coach Bearzot.

Previous winners are Cesare Prandelli, Walter Mazzarri and Vincenzo Montella.

 

[Zacheryah]

You could also say that if Thiago Silva doesn't get injured and miss the last 9 games of 2011-2012, Milan doesn't concede so many goals, and lose the scudetto to Conte.

You could also say that if Milan doesn't sell Silva and Ibra to balance the books and not do anything to replace them, Allegri's record as manager there might have been far better.

Conte was given reinforcements and a better squad each year he was manager at Juventus. Allegri had his team sold out from under him by his management. We'll see how Allegri does here with a management that hopefully won't sell his best players each summer.

Our unbeaten scudetto was special, but it allways felt less then the second one.

We won scudetto 2 and 3 under Conte. But Milan lost scudetto 1, mostly trough injuries. I recall them missing over 6 starters at some point

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Funny thing is, if we were to travel back to just after the 2010-2011 season, and if we looked at the careers of Allegri and Conte up until that point.


IF both of them were available back then, and put sentiment aside and look strictly at what they had accomplished, 95% of this forum would have preferred Allegri over Conte.

Considering the forums preference of europe over league, that sounds pretty accurate

 

[Raz]

The thing is with the conte's records we sacrificed europe. Conte wanted to go to records books, it was obvious by his interviews at that time, and went with the strongest teams inspite of more important european games where rest was needed before them just so he could go for the most points, unbeaten or whatever.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

The thing is with the conte's records we sacrificed europe. Conte wanted to go to records books, it was obvious by his interviews at that time, and went with the strongest teams inspite of more important european games where rest was needed before them just so he could go for the most points, unbeaten or whatever.

Instead of focusing his energy on us winning our first European trophy in years (in our home ground) he wanted to chase this useless "points record" in a league with barely any competition to begin with.

 

[Scottish]

That would have been so sweet to win the wooden spoon in our tiny stadium.

Seriously though that was an opportunity which we absolutely squandered. Vidal was also playing through an injury right till the end of the season. He should have been resting especially after the league was won already.

 

[JuveID]

Badaass is "single fighter" right now?
Good luck bro.

You are very similar with conte.

 

[ALC]

Allegri dropped points

To Atletico Madrid

 

[Badass J Elkann]

oh yeah I forgot you have a memory of a goldfish

 

[Fr3sh]

I'm gonna say this for 8th time Allegri got this year's CL.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

To Atletico Madrid

How dare he?! They are no Nordsjalala or Copenhagen.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

To be fair though, we absolutely did drop points to Olympiakos in my opinion, regardless of how good their home form is.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

To be fair though, we absolutely did drop points to Olympiakos in my opinion, regardless of how good their home form is.

Yeah our away game in Athens against Olympiakos was shameful. First 70 mins were some of the worst football we played in Europe. Last 20 though, we upped the pressure and were unlucky not to score at least once. Morata missed a couple of sitters, and their goalkeeper went into God-mode.

Allegri changed it up after that game though. We saw the 4-3-1-2 against the Greeks at home and didn't look back in the CL. Something Conte didn't do in his second season in Europe with us.

 

[napoleonic]

Instead of focusing his energy on us winning our first European trophy in years (in our home ground) he wanted to chase this useless "points record" in a league with barely any competition to begin with.

That would have been so sweet to win the wooden spoon in our tiny stadium.

Seriously though that was an opportunity which we absolutely squandered. Vidal was also playing through an injury right till the end of the season. He should have been resting especially after the league was won already.

This, not even seriously trying to get into european final that would have been held on our home was in reality can be considered an insult to the club, especially given that that was just 2nd class competition against so called fellow 10 euros clubs

Yeah our away game in Athens against Olympiakos was shameful. First 70 mins were some of the worst football we played in Europe. Last 20 though, we upped the pressure and were unlucky not to score at least once. Morata missed a couple of sitters, and their goalkeeper went into God-mode.

Allegri changed it up after that game though. We saw the 4-3-1-2 against the Greeks at home and didn't look back in the CL. Something Conte didn't do in his second season in Europe with us.

At that time we were still in conte mode

 

[Lion]

To be fair though, we absolutely did drop points to Olympiakos in my opinion, regardless of how good their home form is.

and we almost blew it in the home game too if not for pure luck from llorente and pogba's quick thinking

 

[mukumsplau]

oh i remember perfectly conte bringing on giovinco against copenhagen to use his height advantage against their tall defenders


brilliant. absolutely brilliant.

 

[Post Ironic]

To be fair though, we absolutely did drop points to Olympiakos in my opinion, regardless of how good their home form is.

They also beat Atletico at home.

Morata missed one sitter where he fired straight at the keeper, and then their keeper pulled off one of the best saves I've ever seen on a powerful shot to the top corner from Morata, along with several other brilliant saves.

Regardless, we were still in our Conte mode at that point. We were still playing the 3-5-2. The next game, at home to Olympiacos was our first CL game in 4-3-1-2. And as soon as we got comfortable with the new formation we cruised.

Since that Olympiacos away loss we've gone 5 games undefeated in CL, with 4 wins and 1 draw, and outscored our opponents 10-3. Dominant. Allegri is a genius for that.

 

[Lion]

oh i remember perfectly conte bringing on giovinco against copenhagen to use his height advantage against their tall defenders


brilliant. absolutely brilliant.

i remember those long balls from bonucci to giovinco. brilliant.

it was as bad ranieri playing 3 dms to defend a draw at home

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Giovinco as the main CF in the 3-5-2 Conte using him to hold up the play