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Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
22,514
Nah, its not.

2 years ago, we didnt had any youth whatsoever.


Today, we are stacked with youth, and when a team comes and offers significantly above the marketvalue from a player who hasent showed anything that he'd be worth that, AND wants to go, we take it.


Lets stop trying to find bad theories about everything
It's an option.

If he's worth 28 mil, Bayern will pick up the option. Juve loses.

If he's not, Bayern will send him back. Juve loses.

Bayern just trolled us again.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
I was beyond mad before but with a clear mind I can understand the deal. If we really have no intention of playing with wingers anytime soon, he might really not be needed. And the money offered wasn't bad at all.

BUT then how are we gonna use that money? The logical thing to do is use it towards a role we actually need, we're desperate for, no?

Then you add Vidal's who was worth at least 7-10 million more, Llorente donated to Sevilla and the other $#@! deals like Tevez' and start wondering where the hell is that player we so need?
Oh, I understand the deal... if it was an outright sale, or loan with obligation to buy. But to give them a 2 year trial with the player to decide if he is worth spending the money on? That's ridiculous. He's one of the hottest young prospects in European football.

And to make matters worse, we're not doing anything about our biggest need. People keep saying that Bayern and Real wouldn't sell Gotze or Isco, but money talks. Neither of them are essential players in those teams. We offer 50+ mil for Gotze and he would have been ours. 60+ mil for Isco and he probably would have been ours.

I'm never going to believe another word out of Marotta's mouth. It's been boldfaced lies all summer long.

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Zach trying to justify the Coman deal. :rofl:

The guy who told everyone for the longest time how incredible Coman was going to be, how Coman was a future superstar, how he was the first to lavish praise on Coman on this forum...

Now, Coman hasn't shown anything. :rofl:
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
It's an option.

If he's worth 28 mil, Bayern will pick up the option. Juve loses.

If he's not, Bayern will send him back. Juve loses.

Bayern just trolled us again.
If he's worth 28 mil, juve made a 28lmil profit from a player that wanted to go to bayern.

If he's not worth 28 mil he'll either has played alot of games and didnt convince them,we get 8 mil and coman had game time
Or, they'll end the loan at one year, meaning we'll make 4 mil, coman had a year of training with world class wingers, and he's still just 20.

its a good deal for us.
 

Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
22,514
Oh, I understand the deal... if it was an outright sale, or loan with obligation to buy. But to give them a 2 year trial with the player to decide if he is worth spending the money on? That's ridiculous. He's one of the hottest young prospects in European football.

And to make matters worse, we're not doing anything about our biggest need. People keep saying that Bayern and Real wouldn't sell Gotze or Isco, but money talks. Neither of them are essential players in those teams. We offer 50+ mil for Gotze and he would have been ours. 60+ mil for Isco and he probably would have been ours.

I'm never going to believe another word out of Marotta's mouth. It's been boldfaced lies all summer long.
So much this.

You don't offer 30 mil for someone like gotze or Isco and say after that their teams don't want to sell.

Any player in the world has a price, only thing is wether we are ready to pay or not.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Oh, I understand the deal... if it was an outright sale, or loan with obligation to buy. But to give them a 2 year trial with the player to decide if he is worth spending the money on? That's ridiculous. He's one of the hottest young prospects in European football.

And to make matters worse, we're not doing anything about our biggest need. People keep saying that Bayern and Real wouldn't sell Gotze or Isco, but money talks. Neither of them are essential players in those teams. We offer 50+ mil for Gotze and he would have been ours. 60+ mil for Isco and he probably would have been ours.

I'm never going to believe another word out of Marotta's mouth. It's been boldfaced lies all summer long.

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Zach trying to justify the Coman deal. :rofl:

The guy who told everyone for the longest time how incredible Coman was going to be, how Coman was a future superstar, how he was the first to lavish praise on Coman on this forum...

Now, Coman hasn't shown anything. :rofl:
I have said several times, that i like coman. But if he wants to go, and they offer 28 mil, 'ill drive him there myself.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
So much this.

You don't offer 30 mil for someone like gotze or Isco and say after that their teams don't want to sell.

Any player in the world has a price, only thing is wether we are ready to pay or not.
There are exactly two players who don't have price. Ronaldo and Messi. In large part because what they bring to their clubs goes beyond the pitch. It's almost priceless.

But every other player would be sold for the right offer.

Beppe saying "money is never an issue" sounds like the biggest moron ever, a month after he says Isco and Oscar are too expensive for our club.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Money isnt the issue, means as much as that we are willing to spend money for what a players worth, but we arent going to overspend


As in, imagine we could get isco or gotze for 40 mil. We do it

But if vasquez asking price is 40mil, we dont do it.


You should know this.
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,382
Oh, I understand the deal... if it was an outright sale, or loan with obligation to buy. But to give them a 2 year trial with the player to decide if he is worth spending the money on? That's ridiculous. He's one of the hottest young prospects in European football.

And to make matters worse, we're not doing anything about our biggest need. People keep saying that Bayern and Real wouldn't sell Gotze or Isco, but money talks. Neither of them are essential players in those teams. We offer 50+ mil for Gotze and he would have been ours. 60+ mil for Isco and he probably would have been ours.

I'm never going to believe another word out of Marotta's mouth. It's been boldfaced lies all summer long.

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Zach trying to justify the Coman deal. :rofl:

The guy who told everyone for the longest time how incredible Coman was going to be, how Coman was a future superstar, how he was the first to lavish praise on Coman on this forum...

Now, Coman hasn't shown anything. :rofl:
:agree: yeah, you're right.

Zach and DP84 are the king and queen of contradiction. They're like two girly girls picking their clothes "i like this one" "not anymore it makes me look fat" :lol:
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
If he's worth 28 mil, juve made a 28lmil profit from a player that wanted to go to bayern.

If he's not worth 28 mil he'll either has played alot of games and didnt convince them,we get 8 mil and coman had game time
Or, they'll end the loan at one year, meaning we'll make 4 mil, coman had a year of training with world class wingers, and he's still just 20.

its a good deal for us.
5 mil
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,223
Money isnt the issue, means as much as that we are willing to spend money for what a players worth, but we arent going to overspend


As in, imagine we could get isco or gotze for 40 mil. We do it

But if vasquez asking price is 40mil, we dont do it.


You should know this.
Exactly this.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
I have said several times, that i like coman. But if he wants to go, and they offer 28 mil, 'ill drive him there myself.
:tup:

I'm glad you'll try to cement our status as a 3rd tier club as far as the European elite go. Coman is basically the same as a Morata at 19. Madrid never would have sold Morata at that age, even if he had shown nothing yet. Coman played 600 minutes for the CL finalist at age 18 and scored a goal and had two assists. How the fuck is that "showing nothing" Zach? How many 18 year olds are good enough to feature at all for a CL finalist? Not many.

But let's sell him before we can even know if he's going to realize his potential. Brilliant idea. If you're a third rate club.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Nah. i'm not going in this "everything is terrible" attitude like you two are

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:tup:

I'm glad you'll try to cement our status as a 3rd tier club as far as the European elite go. Coman is basically the same as a Morata at 19. Madrid never would have sold Morata at that age, even if he had shown nothing yet. Coman played 600 minutes for the CL finalist at age 18 and scored a goal and had two assists. How the fuck is that "showing nothing" Zach? How many 18 year olds are good enough to feature at all for a CL finalist? Not many.

But let's sell him before we can even know if he's going to realize his potential. Brilliant idea. If you're a third rate club.
Oh i could give an explenation for that, but i'm not in the mood for your shit response about me changing my mind cause it suits the cause bullshit
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Money isnt the issue, means as much as that we are willing to spend money for what a players worth, but we arent going to overspend

As in, imagine we could get isco or gotze for 40 mil. We do it

But if vasquez asking price is 40mil, we dont do it.

You should know this.
:sergio:

We shouldn't even be looking at player's of Vazquez's calibre after playing in a CL final. He's shit. The fact we even consider options like Lamela, Vazquez, Hernanes is an absolute joke. We just offloaded one of the brightest 19 year old prospects in the game. If we're willing to spend as much as a player is worth we should be buying Isco for whatever Real will accept. Because a player like him is absolutely decisive, unlike Beppe's ridiculous claim, and that player makes the difference between us playing the formation that got us to the CL final, and playing the formation that got us a group stage exit.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
:sergio:

We shouldn't even be looking at player's of Vazquez's calibre after playing in a CL final. He's shit. The fact we even consider options like Lamela, Vazquez, Hernanes is an absolute joke. We just offloaded one of the brightest 19 year old prospects in the game. If we're willing to spend as much as a player is worth we should be buying Isco for whatever Real will accept. Because a player like him is absolutely decisive, unlike Beppe's ridiculous claim, and that player makes the difference between us playing the formation that got us to the CL final, and playing the formation that got us a group stage exit.
I'm naming an example

You are naming what the media has come up with


You know. The media who has declared draxler done 3 times, "close" when we didnt make an offer 7 times, and we signed gotze 8 times



Marotta has said nothing about Lamela or hernanes
Marotta was asked about Vasquez, and said he isnt a player we are looking for



But hey, you believe the media now.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,223
:tup:

I'm glad you'll try to cement our status as a 3rd tier club as far as the European elite go. Coman is basically the same as a Morata at 19. Madrid never would have sold Morata at that age, even if he had shown nothing yet. Coman played 600 minutes for the CL finalist at age 18 and scored a goal and had two assists. How the fuck is that "showing nothing" Zach? How many 18 year olds are good enough to feature at all for a CL finalist? Not many.

But let's sell him before we can even know if he's going to realize his potential. Brilliant idea. If you're a third rate club.
Selling 19 yo is cementing our status as a 3rd tier club?

28m for ridiculously hyped youngster is more than a fair deal. If we considered him THAT talented we wouldnt let him leave, like Pogba.

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:agree: yeah, you're right.

Zach and DP84 are the king and queen of contradiction. They're like two girly girls picking their clothes "i like this one" "not anymore it makes me look fat" :lol:
:yawn:
 

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