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Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
we have to be realistic and assume we might not face an easy task next season.

next season in round of 16 we might run into barca or chelsea.

that doest mean it's imossible to go thorugh. but we need the new signings to give us the extra edge.
 

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Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,254
we have to be realistic and assume we might not face an easy task next season.

next season in round of 16 we might run into barca or chelsea.

that doest mean it's imossible to go thorugh. but we need the new signings to give us the extra edge.
I'll be praying everyday that we do. I want blood!!
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
one thing this CL campaign showed is our lack of creativity and attacking options.

ffs guys our main creative player last night was a past it 36 year old who failed to create a single goal scoring chance.

let that sink in. 36 year old. played entire match, and zero chances created. that should tell u all u need about lack of quality. our subs included a guy that scored once in 6 months, and a very nervous and raw 18 year old.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,254
one thing this CL campaign showed is our lack of creativity and attacking options.

ffs guys our main creative player last night was a past it 36 year old who failed to create a single goal scoring chance.

let that sink in. 36 year old. played entire match, and zero chances created. that should tell u all u need about lack of quality. our subs included a guy that scored once in 6 months, and a very nervous and raw 18 year old.
This will change, it has to. Pirlo is leaving, and we've already spent on Dybala, and seem to be seeking even more offensive talents.

It's gonna be a matter of how fast until the new players gel with the old.
 
Mar 30, 2006
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one thing this CL campaign showed is our lack of creativity and attacking options.

ffs guys our main creative player last night was a past it 36 year old who failed to create a single goal scoring chance.

let that sink in. 36 year old. played entire match, and zero chances created. that should tell u all u need about lack of quality. our subs included a guy that scored once in 6 months, and a very nervous and raw 18 year old.
You think we created zero chances?
 

kao_ray

Senior Member
Feb 28, 2014
6,568
are u both slow? read the damn sentence again
You're right. Pirlo was a gamble and he didn't provide. We hoped for a miracle pass or a free kick, but...
Even if he stays he won't play in so many important games next year. This is why we are looking for so many midfielders.

Allegri made the right call with him, but he was off form. What failed Allegri in Berlin was our strongest weapon. We failed as a team in the first minutes. We were too nervous and we didn't cover the spaces well. This is only due to lack of experience. That's why we needed experienced players like Pirlo to lead the team in such circumstances. But it wasn't his day and probably he is well past it :sigh:
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Nothing but praise for this guy. Next year will be very tricky if we're not careful though.
Indeed. 2014/15 will mark one of our greatest seasons of all time. It's incredibly difficult to top this. We cannot expect that.

Next season our aim is to win the scudetto and to consolidate our place as a top 8 team in Europe. I think that's a great aim, and a realistic one.

Once you're constantly reaching those quarter finals and semi finals of the CL, there's always a decent chance of slipping back into the final again at some point.

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That's who we've got to be now. The club that's always "up there", sniffing about. Ready to pounce and get back into the final at the first opportune moment.
Why is everyone so pessimestic? We can easily win the double every year for the next 5 years, thus we will have other chances to win the treble. It all now depends on who we sign and who we keep.
Honestly, I think we're going to be standing at the San Siro next year. The team has an aura to it right now, its in very capable hands with a young manager who still feels he has more to achieve.

The way Bonucci took off his medal and walked away it looked like he was heading straight for the training ground to do even better. Future captain imo.
I too hope this season is just a starting point, but I'm just not optimistic. Next season is almost bound to be disappointing & we (the entire club) need to be able to deal with that.

Then again, this could be the immense frustration talking.
we have to be realistic and assume we might not face an easy task next season.

next season in round of 16 we might run into barca or chelsea.

that doest mean it's imossible to go thorugh. but we need the new signings to give us the extra edge.
You're right. Pirlo was a gamble and he didn't provide. We hoped for a miracle pass or a free kick, but...
Even if he stays he won't play in so many important games next year. This is why we are looking for so many midfielders.

Allegri made the right call with him, but he was off form. What failed Allegri in Berlin was our strongest weapon. We failed as a team in the first minutes. We were too nervous and we didn't cover the spaces well. This is only due to lack of experience. That's why we needed experienced players like Pirlo to lead the team in such circumstances. But it wasn't his day and probably he is well past it :sigh:
In the grand scheme of things, Juve is definitely headed in the right direction in terms of creating a sustainable European mentality. That said though, like Klin and a couple of others said above, immediately, there is bound to be some shuffling around, largely to keep the motivation and hunger alive, domestically and continentally.

For me personally, I think Juve would struggle to get another scudetto next year. I said that last year too, largely due to motivation. But this time I feel like the team has definitely reached its ceiling. So certain elements will definitely change, for better or worse. Pirlo moving on would have an interesting domino effect. I do think we will struggle slightly in Europe too next season, but it will be a short lived struggle, only to grapple with the changes we make over the summer.

The club/squad is going to be in transition over the summer, and a large part of what we do over the next 5 year cycle will come down to this Mercato, after one of the most successful seasons in our history. How we use the money, who we use it on, and how they integrate with the Juve dynamic.

Personally, next season will be a bit of a struggle, but the one after is likely to make another splash in Europe, and perhaps even reach the final again in the next 3-4 years. It's possible, but a lot of it comes down to who leaves and who comes this Mercato to set the tone for the club.

Morata, Tevez, Vidal and Pogba absolutely have to stay if next year is going to be even remotely mirroring this one.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
Bayern Munich missed out from a treble in 2010 and then they went on to have a good era after.

Man Utd got hammered by AC Milan in 2007, then they went on to have arguably their most successful era ever.

I feel like we are similar in away to Bayern and Man United, this year despite it being so close, will be a learning experience. As long as we keep our best players then I can't see why we can't consistently finish in semi final for the next 4 years.

I personally think Real Madrid will struggle with Benitez, and some of Bayern's players are getting really old. So you never know, we do possess some of the most talented youngsters in Europe too
Nothing is for granted in the future.We might win the CL next year or wait for it next 20 years.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,092
Nah, we'll still take the Scudetto home in a canter. The club will definitely want us to equal the record of 5 in a row. Thats definitely a motivation for everyone. Plus we are bringing in some new players like Dybala, Khedira, Rugani etc who will be hungry for glory as well. Italy isn't a problem for us, we are light years ahead of everyone.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,254
Scudetto will be a breeze, the quality gap is insane, nobody will be able to touch. With a steady rotation and healthy players, we'll be able to fight on all three fronts and hopefully get the treble. :xfinger:
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
I have no doubts about Scudetto .CL is another story.Yes we will be competitive,we will have a better squad,more motivated but there you never know.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,987
Sorry baggio but im with the guys.

Our players are very proffesional so I dont think lack of motivation will kick in. In fact, I think this defeat will fire them up even more, and take serie A as a training ground for CL matches.

We have a good core of players and we are ahead of our rivals, by a considerable margin. We have new and young attacking players who most likely will develop in very good players for the serie A levels.

All points out that with pirlo gone, or benched..m we will be even stronger, and if Dybala clicks and Berardi comes back.... the league will be a practice ground.


In europe, we struggled because in the first 3 games we were just too contefied. Once we ditched that euroconte mentality and allegri DARED to win, we saw how things changed.

If we go from the frist minute with the same mentality that we ended the CL, the group stage should go smoothly.

Im hopeful things will get a little better.


Also, I think that serie A as a whole, will owe us a lot. Why I say this?, because we are setting up the standard and if they are intelligent enought, they will try to follow.

If we continued to struggle and kept on their levels, teams in serie A would not have any excuse to go beyond their limits. But now they are forced to do the right things and improve if they dont want to see juventus ruling the league for the next decade.

if the league improves, we all win.
 

PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
7,166
About Allegri's coaching vs Barcelona, he mismanaged when he put Pirlo as a starter and didn't sub him out. With Marchisio as a DM and Pereyra the team would be much more solid defensively and aggressive in counters. Just can't understand how he refused to do the right thing which was clear for everyone for the past 6 months, day in and day out.

And he subbed out our best offensive threat in Morata.

Poor coaching IMO in the final, chances would be bigger had he done he right stuff.

But overall he was absolutely outstanding this season. Kudos to him. I really like how humble he is, and the fact he seems to be a bit more open minded than the average Italian coach.
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
18,448
Scudetto will be a breeze, the quality gap is insane, nobody will be able to touch. With a steady rotation and healthy players, we'll be able to fight on all three fronts and hopefully get the treble. :xfinger:
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I have no doubts about Scudetto .CL is another story.Yes we will be competitive,we will have a better squad,more motivated but there you never know.
yeh but if we can get two word calass player for next season surly we can reach to cl final plus we already got dybala + khedira

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da_ledgeaun

The Juve Freak
Jun 2, 2007
6,611
About Allegri's coaching vs Barcelona, he mismanaged when he put Pirlo as a starter and didn't sub him out. With Marchisio as a DM and Pereyra the team would be much more solid defensively and aggressive in counters. Just can't understand how he refused to do the right thing which was clear for everyone for the past 6 months, day in and day out.

And he subbed out our best offensive threat in Morata.

Poor coaching IMO in the final, chances would be bigger had he done he right stuff.

But overall he was absolutely outstanding this season. Kudos to him. I really like how humble he is, and the fact he seems to be a bit more open minded than the average Italian coach.
I think Pirlo starting was pretty much a given, its the final, and a maestro like Pirlo could really make a difference, but i think in the second half was when he could have done better, like taking Pirlo out right when we had the 1-1 scoreline, as we all knew Barca were gonna be attacking more and therefore we would have created more counter attacking opportunities, and thats when Marchi,Pereyra,Morata,Tevez, and Pogba can do a lot of damage, i would even take Vidal off for Coman, as Coman is able to help track back and at least cover the empty spaces if we lose when countering.

Definitely a good experience, but Barca are not like other teams, they are not even that strong anywhere bar the the trio, but what a trio they are, and thats how we lost this match, by them having such a lethal trio and are able to overcome our midfield by basically not playing their midfield and go straight forward.

Hoping Max can get more opportunities for CL finals with us!
 

piotrr

Мodеrator
Sep 13, 2011
34,009
We all know that Juve fans are men of their words. How's the progress @DUKAC ?

I will tatoo 34 stars at my balls and I will finance everybody who will like to do that at this forum if this happens (winning the scudetto with Allegri). Better be prepared that he will bench Pirlo,Tevez will say:Go fuck yourself, and will go to Argentina to play golf etc.He has no potention to lead the players.Tevez might slap him a hand.Watch ans see.A puddle.(No offence to animals) .I have few.
 

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