Massimiliano Allegri (638 Viewers)

[JuveJay]

So close.

 

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[AFL_ITALIA]

Imagine all of us morons meeting up and debating this shit in real life lmao

Would actually love it tbh. I’ll provide the bogan charm, B81 the hookers (katoey or regular), Lion will be wearing his Canadian Tire outfit, Post Ironic will build us all a log cabin big enough for the throaters and anti-Allegri crew to debate in peace in.

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[Kevster]

come on, that team had everything, especially in the league. we played on par with teams like bayern, real and barcelona, easily the best teams around 2015-19

we obviously had weaker matches, i remember the shaky start to the 2015/16 season or occasional slip-ups at away matches but that team played completely different football. it was dominant, midfielders could actually pass and create, wingbacks weren't lame, cb's were solid af. when you concede less than 30 goals per season and score more than 70 for 5 years and dominate the league while being competitive in europe there's really nothing to complain about

no need for this kind of revisionism ser

to be honest he's not exactly wrong.

the eliminations of barca and madrid were great, but there were also pathetic performances after and between.

first game vs olympiakos

the first leg vs bayern and second half second game

the 3-0 losses to barca in the groupstage

the performances vs tottenham were warning signs of what was to come vs real madrid in the next round

 

[B3N]

come on, that team had everything, especially in the league. we played on par with teams like bayern, real and barcelona, easily the best teams around 2015-19

we obviously had weaker matches, i remember the shaky start to the 2015/16 season or occasional slip-ups at away matches but that team played completely different football. it was dominant, midfielders could actually pass and create, wingbacks weren't lame, cb's were solid af. when you concede less than 30 goals per season and score more than 70 for 5 years and dominate the league while being competitive in europe there's really nothing to complain about

no need for this kind of revisionism ser

He used to tinker with his squad like the tweak he made to contes team playing diamond midfield Vidal supporting front two peak max but ever since trying to shoehorn everything to same formula from playing Padoin as dlp up to this point trying out players out of position just to lineup three cbs even though that no longer is the strength of the squad we've been playing putrid ass football always falling short.

We had more than just one season of shaky slow start by the way at least he used to be flexible to make the right adjustments at business end.

Deficiency as in the greatest win ratio in our history?

As in unable to reflect it outside italy and eventually losing our position and the gap in quality he holds a fair share of that blame.

 

[s4tch]

...there were also pathetic performances after and between...

it's football dude

give me a team that lost zero matches to underdogs in 5 seasons

 

[Post Ironic]

it's football dude

give me a team that lost zero matches to underdogs in 5 seasons

In his first 4 years here in CL we were never once knocked out by an underdog. We lost 3 times to the winner, and once to Bayern. Each and every time we were the underdog.

These lads acting like we were regularly getting thrashed by the Copenhagens and Galatasarays during Allegri 1.0 like Conte. Even more amusing is that half of them still simp for Conte lol

 

[Patrizi]

In his first 4 years here in CL we were never once knocked out by an underdog. We lost 3 times to the winner, and once to Bayern. Each and every time we were the underdog.

These lads acting like we were regularly getting thrashed by the Copenhagens and Galatasarays during Allegri 1.0 like Conte. Even more amusing is that half of them still simp for Conte lol

Facts.

 

[Kevster]

it's football dude

give me a team that lost zero matches to underdogs in 5 seasons

I'm not talking about losing.

I'm talking about the way we lost and performed.

Bunkering vs Bayern at home coming off a UCL final with new additions like dybala cuadrado and manzukic. unacceptable

 

[Badass J Elkann]

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ADVANCEEEEEEEEEE

 

[Vlad]

I'm not talking about losing.

I'm talking about the way we lost and performed.

Bunkering vs Bayern at home coming off a UCL final with new additions like dybala cuadrado and manzukic. unacceptable

Somewhat different team compared to final game. No Tevez, Pirlo, Vidal. Key players previous seasons. Bayern were heavy favorites.

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In his first 4 years here in CL we were never once knocked out by an underdog. We lost 3 times to the winner, and once to Bayern. Each and every time we were the underdog.

These lads acting like we were regularly getting thrashed by the Copenhagens and Galatasarays during Allegri 1.0 like Conte. Even more amusing is that half of them still simp for Conte lol

History revisionists. It is unfathomable for them that Allegri was great in his 1st spell and nowhere near that level since return. So he must have sucked back then as well.

 

[Xperd]

'They gave him strong players'

Is this another one of his jabroni 'friends' doing PR for him? Fucking hell, this is so embarrassing.

 

[Kevster]

Somewhat different team compared to final game. No Tevez, Pirlo, Vidal. Key players previous seasons. Bayern were heavy favorites.

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History revisionists. It is unfathomable for them that Allegri was great in his 1st spell and nowhere near that level since return. So he must have sucked back then as well.

we recruited khedira, had pereyra as a solid backup option and pogba was playing great and one can argue we improved our counter attacking game with dybala, cuadrado, madzukic and a more experienced morata.

we went on a 15 game win streak leading up to that game and had the tools to counter bayern, but instead we bunkered up against them and went 2-0 down.

bayern were heavy favorites? so what? defend up to a logical level and counter attack, don't just park the bus and get dominated at home lol.

that same bayern lost to atletico a smilar defensive team in the semis btw..

 

[Vlad]

we recruited khedira, had pereyra as a solid backup option and pogba was playing great and one can argue we improved our counter attacking game with dybala, cuadrado, madzukic and a more experienced morata.

we went on a 15 game win streak leading up to that game and had the tools to counter bayern, but instead we bunkered up against them and went 2-0 down.

bayern were heavy favorites? so what? defend up to a logical level and counter attack, don't just park the bus and get dominated at home lol.

that same bayern lost to atletico a smilar defensive team in the semis btw..

Going from Vidal and Pirlo to Khedira and Pereyra... You dont see a difference there. As for Pogba, he spent half a year as one of our worst player, picked up his game later in the season. If you revisit his thread during that period, you'll find plenty of criticism. How many goals has Dybala scored in CL in his 1st season? 1 goal. How many has Tevez scored in his last one for us?

We were no match to that Bayern side. However, we almost knocked them out if not for Evra's howler in the last minute of the game. Say what you want about Allegri right now, but in his 1st spell we regularly punched above our weight.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Ronaldo signing was the final nail in the coffin for our midfield. We spent the money that should have been earmarked for our midfield on Ronaldo and resorted to freebies and rubbish for the engine of the team. Paratici really destroyed this squad with his shitty attempt at a Galacticos light.

Yeah, we bought a Ferrari but gave it a Fiat Panda engine with Ramsey and Rabiot

 

[Patrizi]

'They gave him strong players'

Is this another one of his jabroni 'friends' doing PR for him? Fucking hell, this is so embarrassing.

Just someone who knows what he's talking about.

 

[Kevster]

Going from Vidal and Pirlo to Khedira and Pereyra... You dont see a difference there. As for Pogba, he spent half a year as one of our worst player, picked up his game later in the season. If you revisit his thread during that period, you'll find plenty of criticism. How many goals has Dybala scored in CL in his 1st season? 1 goal. How many has Tevez scored in his last one for us?

We were no match to that Bayern side. However, we almost knocked them out if not for Evra's howler in the last minute of the game. Say what you want about Allegri right now, but in his 1st spell we regularly punched above our weight.

oh so Khedira is a bum now lol? Pirlo was replaced by Marchisio quite well as the DM in my opinion and tbh Pirlo was kind of a liability in the 2015 final.

Forgot we also got prime alex sandro that year.

allegri started evra in the home leg though

you're telling me a team of
Buffon
BBC
Alex Sandro
Lichtsteiner/Cuadrado
Marchisio
Khedira
Pogba
Morata
Mandzukic
Dybala

was no match for bayern?

cut the excuses, there is never a reason to park the bus at home minute 1

 

[Vlad]

oh so Khedira is a bum now lol? Pirlo was replaced by Marchisio quite well as the DM in my opinion and tbh Pirlo was kind of a liability in the 2015 final.

Forgot we also got prime alex sandro that year.

allegri started evra in the home leg though

you're telling me a team of
Buffon
BBC
Alex Sandro
Lichtsteiner/Cuadrado
Marchisio
Khedira
Pogba
Morata
Mandzukic
Dybala

was no match for bayern?

cut the excuses, there is never a reason to park the bus at home minute 1

Kheddira wasnt a bum but he wasnt nearly as good as Vidal. And he was injury prone.

Marchisio replaced Pirlo quite well? Thats nonsense. He couldnt string few passes together and frequently gave the ball away in the home game. Pirlo was one of the best midfielders in the game, even in his last season.

That team compared to what we have now looks stellar, until you compare it a Bayern team. They had Vidal, Muller, Lewa, Robben, Thiago, Alaba, Lahm... wtf

 

[Kevster]

Kheddira wasnt a bum but he wasnt nearly as good as Vidal. And he was injury prone.

Marchisio replaced Pirlo quite well? Thats nonsense. He couldnt string few passes together and frequently gave the ball away in the home game. Pirlo was one of the best midfielders in the game, even in his last season.

That team compared to what we have now looks stellar, until you compare it a Bayern team. They had Vidal, Muller, Lewa, Robben, Thiago, Alaba, Lahm... wtf

marchisio replaced pirlo and did well in the KO stages in 2015 when pirlo was injured.

pretty hard to get out of your half when your own centerbacks are breathing down your neck and the strikers are playing as cms.

wonder which genius told them to setup like this.

I think you're just making excuses for allegri or just have low self esteem issues and like bringing us down like we didn't deserve to be on the same pitch as bayern lol. We had a great team in 2016 and if tactically we were setup better from the start would have knocked bayern out.

let's not forget allegri actually fixed the setup in the away game until he made the error of bringing off an exhausted morata (good decision) for mandzukic (not a ball carrier).

 

[Dostoevsky]

Going from Vidal and Pirlo to Khedira and Pereyra... You dont see a difference there. As for Pogba, he spent half a year as one of our worst player, picked up his game later in the season. If you revisit his thread during that period, you'll find plenty of criticism. How many goals has Dybala scored in CL in his 1st season? 1 goal. How many has Tevez scored in his last one for us?

We were no match to that Bayern side. However, we almost knocked them out if not for Evra's howler in the last minute of the game. Say what you want about Allegri right now, but in his 1st spell we regularly punched above our weight.

I agree. And I won't ever fight that.

But I have no clue why people defend him now when we play equal to dogshit. He's a plague and should stay far away from us. I couldn't care less about his past because there's no way he can get better. Nothing but a waste of time.

 

[Vlad]

marchisio replaced pirlo and did well in the KO stages in 2015 when pirlo was injured.

pretty hard to get out of your half when your own centerbacks are breathing down your neck and the strikers are playing as cms.

wonder which genius told them to setup like this.

I think you're just making excuses for allegri or just have low self esteem issues and like bringing us down like we didn't deserve to be on the same pitch as bayern lol. We had a great team in 2016 and if tactically we were setup better from the start would have knocked bayern out.

let's not forget allegri actually fixed the setup in the away game until he made the error of bringing off an exhausted morata (good decision) for mandzukic (not a ball carrier).

The argument is whether we were as good as that Bayern side. Imo we werent. Their 1st 11 was stronger and their bench as well. The likes of Robben who was prolly among the top 3 wingers back then and Costa pinned us down and Muller took Marchisio out of the game. You cant impose your game when you face superior opponent. They will destroy you 9/10 times. No amount of stroking ego cant change that. In the return leg we played on counter which was correct approach. However, we had a perfectly valid goal disallowed. With 3 goals up, we progress to QF.

An error replacing exhausted Morata? Its not an error then. Who else could we have brought in?