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Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,029
I disagree. Yes, the odds weren’t in our favour, but a win would’ve been very important (moral, financial benefits, maybe a miracle in CL). Now we even face the possibility of becoming last in the group. Not going to the EL would be a even bigger financial disaster, although the group might benefit a easier program without European football.
Thats an understatement. Odds arent in your favor when it's 40-60, 30-70, etc but in this case it wasnt realistic at all. As soon as we lost to Macabi, qualification was out of our hands and we had to pray for miracle, which would be if Macabi took points off Benfica. Its more realistic that, albeit the small sample size, we are picking up our game in Serie A after 3 wins in a row. As for financial disaster, the damage is done, EL has a small pool of funds.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Conte is officially club legend btw. Why he suddenly isn't considered as one?
I'm not sure about Allegri status
Of course Conte’s a club legend for what he did here as player and coach.

And so is Allegri, regardless of what Tuz’s current crybabies have to say. He won 11 trophies, 5 scudetti, 4 straight domestic doubles. It’s rather amusing that anyone would think he won’t be “officially” a club legend going forward lol
 

Edi_K

Junior Member
Nov 6, 2021
353
What dumbassery. :lol:

Yeah, we’d celebrate the club coaching legend, the guy who did far better than Conte did here, going to Inter. We’d wish it. :baus:

Allegri should be sacked for this current spell, but in no world do I want club legends going to Inter. Especially one who likely could have improved them and made Inter relevant in Europe post-Conte’s dismal group stage exits there.

Plastic “what have you done for me lately” fans really are the worst sort.
conte wanted to come back to juventus , agnelli rejected him!
and conte wanted to stay in in italy , so what you excepted him to just not work? he is a professional ,there is way less coaching jobs then as a player , I totally get him.
and beside I'm happy he went there , before conte they were so weak , winning them became boring ... at the end we want strong ,competitive seraia a other wise our growth will always be limted...
don't wish things to be easier ,wish to be stronger...
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,818
Of course Conte’s a club legend for what he did here as player and coach.

And so is Allegri, regardless of what Tuz’s current crybabies have to say. He won 11 trophies, 5 scudetti, 4 straight domestic doubles. It’s rather amusing that anyone would think he won’t be “officially” a club legend going forward lol
Yeah, I wonder if Dortmund and Liverpool fans consider Klopp to be a homeless bum because of his poor seventh season at both clubs.
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,651
Thats an understatement. Odds arent in your favor when it's 40-60, 30-70, etc but in this case it wasnt realistic at all. As soon as we lost to Macabi, qualification was out of our hands and we had to pray for miracle, which would be if Macabi took points off Benfica. Its more realistic that, albeit the small sample size, we are picking up our game in Serie A after 3 wins in a row. As for financial disaster, the damage is done, EL has a small pool of funds.
Thank god it didn't come down to the psg game with 13-14 injured players . Anyways winning the Europa League might compensate some of the losses due to this group stage exit and place us in pot 1 in the next year champions League group stage.
 

IlCapitano

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2012
5,614
Thats an understatement. Odds arent in your favor when it's 40-60, 30-70, etc but in this case it wasnt realistic at all. As soon as we lost to Macabi, qualification was out of our hands and we had to pray for miracle, which would be if Macabi took points off Benfica. Its more realistic that, albeit the small sample size, we are picking up our game in Serie A after 3 wins in a row. As for financial disaster, the damage is done, EL has a small pool of funds.
We didn't just have to beat Benfica, we had to beat them by two goals in order for a Maccabi draw against Benfica to be enough. If we just beat them 1-0 then Maccabi had to beat Benfica while in both scenarios we had to beat PSG too.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,029
We didn't just have to beat Benfica, we had to beat them by two goals in order for a Maccabi draw against Benfica to be enough. If we just beat them 1-0 then Maccabi had to beat Benfica while in both scenarios we had to beat PSG too.
Well, we needed 3 miracles in 4 matches, while in 2 we were just spectators so if someone thinks players would be motivated knowing this and proceed to giving all in, its a delusion. Its a disgraceful the way we were eliminated this year. I could accept both Benfica and PSG being better, but Macabi outplaying us. Thats the lowest point this season.

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Thank god it didn't come down to the psg game with 13-14 injured players . Anyways winning the Europa League might compensate some of the losses due to this group stage exit and place us in pot 1 in the next year champions League group stage.
I agree but its at most 15m for a winner, between 2nd stage and a final game. Coeff. are important but this team doesnt have enough depth, with all the injuries happening every day, to play 3 competitions. Focus on Serie A, make the most of it and lets see what happens
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,616
What dumbassery. :lol:

Yeah, we’d celebrate the club coaching legend, the guy who did far better than Conte did here, going to Inter. We’d wish it. :baus:

Allegri should be sacked for this current spell, but in no world do I want club legends going to Inter. Especially one who likely could have improved them and made Inter relevant in Europe post-Conte’s dismal group stage exits there.

Plastic “what have you done for me lately” fans really are the worst sort.
Allegri would take this Inter into relegation hence wishing him upon them :lol:

As fans we owe Allegri nothing. He earns more than his competitors combined and is doing a worse job than the Monza coach. If he was apologetic or remorseful or showed any signs of taking responsibility for anything at all then maybe I’d have a little sympathy. But instead he doubles down, throws players under the bus, insults fans, normalizes failure, gaslighting in every interview. He is like Donald Trump.

LOL at the notion he’d improve inter
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,036
Yeah, I wonder if Dortmund and Liverpool fans consider Klopp to be a homeless bum because of his poor seventh season at both clubs.
Klopp manages in a much more difficult league and isn’t trying to kill the sport in which he presides over. Just because he won stuff doesn’t mean we have to consider him a legend. I consider him a legendary fraud, and that’s my opinion that isn’t changing any time soon.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
Thank god it didn't come down to the psg game with 13-14 injured players . Anyways winning the Europa League might compensate some of the losses due to this group stage exit and place us in pot 1 in the next year champions League group stage.
are you kidding? Winning the EL would compensate for the last 3 seasons!
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,616
We didn't just have to beat Benfica, we had to beat them by two goals in order for a Maccabi draw against Benfica to be enough. If we just beat them 1-0 then Maccabi had to beat Benfica while in both scenarios we had to beat PSG too.
Dude just pretend it never happened. We clearly improved since last year we have 2 more points than this many games into last season. The CL is more or less a friendly doesn’t really prove anything.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
What dumbassery
This fraud lost his club legend status last year. This season he is just cementing his fraud-loser status.
:lol:

You are welcome to cry and bitch about it endlessly like a little toddler, but the club is always going to consider Max a legend for what he has accomplished here. Have fun with your tantrum lol

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Allegri would take this Inter into relegation hence wishing him upon them :lol:

As fans we owe Allegri nothing. He earns more than his competitors combined and is doing a worse job than the Monza coach. If he was apologetic or remorseful or showed any signs of taking responsibility for anything at all then maybe I’d have a little sympathy. But instead he doubles down, throws players under the bus, insults fans, normalizes failure, gaslighting in every interview. He is like Donald Trump.

LOL at the notion he’d improve inter
:lol:

What a troll. Remind me what Conte’s CL group stage history is? And remind me when he didn’t make endless excuses and whine like a bitch about how the competition is too hard, the refs are against him, etc. And yet you still defend that lol
 
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Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,616
Klopp manages in a much more difficult league and isn’t trying to kill the sport in which he presides over. Just because he won stuff doesn’t mean we have to consider him a legend. I consider him a legendary fraud, and that’s my opinion that isn’t changing any time soon.
Klopp took teams that have not won for an eternity developed them from the ground up and turned them into winning teams with stature as top clubs. When results or performances aren’t up to standard he conducts himself gracefully and takes responsibility for mistakes.

Meanwhile Allegri (thanks to his second spell) has turned us into a laughing stock and is insulting fans, blaming players and refuses to take any responsibility. Instead he is normalizing failure.

Totally club legend if he had not returned but the performances and results and how he is conducting himself these two years has undone any respect I had for the guy. I am not expecting him to resign and walk away from millions he is not a philanthropist, but I do expect him to conduct himself with at least a little class and to keep expectations of Juve high. Puts the 10 euro comment to shame a million times over

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You are welcome to cry and bitch about it endlessly like a little toddler, but the club is always going to consider Max a legend for what he has accomplished here. Have fun with your tantrum lol

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What a troll. Remind me what Conte’s CL group stage history is? And remind me when he didn’t make endless excuses and whine like a bitch about how the competition is too hard, the refs are against him, etc. And yet you still defend that lol
Conte whines and complains and let’s put his frustration at losing he doesn’t normalize losing. His fall out with Juve was over their lack of ambition, and he left Inter for the same reason.

I’ll take the guy that gets enraged when he loses over the guy that’ll say losing is totally fine any day
 
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Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Conte whines and complains and let’s put his frustration at losing he doesn’t normalize losing. His fall out with Juve was over their lack of ambition, and he left Inter for the same reason.

I’ll take the guy that gets enraged when he loses over the guy that’ll say losing is totally fine any day
Really? Because his 10 euro comment and CL performances and excuses after were all about normalizing losing and saying his teams couldn’t compete. :lol:

Allegri showed that they could over the 5 years following Conte. Even Inzaghi can get out of group stage with Inter lol
 
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Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
What dumbassery. :lol:

Yeah, we’d celebrate the club coaching legend, the guy who did far better than Conte did here, going to Inter. We’d wish it. :baus:

Allegri should be sacked for this current spell, but in no world do I want club legends going to Inter. Especially one who likely could have improved them and made Inter relevant in Europe post-Conte’s dismal group stage exits there.

Plastic “what have you done for me lately” fans really are the worst sort.
You are aware that if allegri goes to Inter, most likely they will turn to shit and we could abuse them?

To be honest would be a great way to directly destroy our dearest enemy in the league. Im up to it
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,616
Really? Because his 10 euro comment and CL performances and excuses after were all about normalizing losing and saying his teams couldn’t compete. :lol:

Allegri showed that they could over the 5 years following Conte. Even Inzaghi can get out of group stage with Inter lol
:lol: How on earth did you interpret his rants about insufficient spending as normalizing losing? He literally called them out for lack of ambition I.e he wants to spend more to compete for higher honours. He quit Inter when told they’re downsizing and quit Juve when he thought he can’t take the team higher.

It’s the other guy who says this is not a failure and is calmly collecting checks until the sack. The definition of making this level normal.

You’re really arguing that Allegri hates losing more than Conte? Have you seen any Conte interview after a loss?

you could argue who was more successful in the past (but not anymore) but you don’t have a semblance of an argument if you are saying Conte the player, the captain or the coach is okay with losing or would ever treat it as normal

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You are aware that if allegri goes to Inter, most likely they will turn to shit and we could abuse them?

To be honest would be a great way to directly destroy our dearest enemy in the league. Im up to it
First hell normalize Dinoball and say it’s either winning ugly or losing, no other way. Then he’ll just lose ugly. Then former and current players will come out mocking and criticizing his outdated approach. He’ll never quit he’ll sit and collect pay checks and tell us we watch games but don’t see them and call his failures perfectly normal
 
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Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Ahh yes, saying that your teams can’t be expected to beat teams like Galatasaray, Shaktar, Gladbach, Prague, Copenhagen, etc and progress out of CL group stage isn’t normalizing losing at all. What a fierce competitor to claim he can’t compete against such competition with so few euros. :baus: :lol2:
 

Edi_K

Junior Member
Nov 6, 2021
353
Really? Because his 10 euro comment and CL performances and excuses after were all about normalizing losing and saying his teams couldn’t compete. :lol:

Allegri showed that they could over the 5 years following Conte. Even Inzaghi can get out of group stage with Inter lol
conte is a great coach , he is a great team builder! he brings wining mentality ,he pushes the players to give the best version of them self , he is like the tony Robbins of football.
and he creates a system where each player knows what to do by heart.
Allegri on the other hand is more creative and sometimes he can mix and spice things up to make surprises , but its all good when you have a strong team with strong wining mentality and organized system... but he is unable to built a team and he is unable to install the crazy mentality of a winner.
as well conte has much more experience outside of italy which I'm sure would serve him well.
and he has the desire to improve , as much as he wasn't successful in the champions league , he is doing much better then us at the moment... and I'm sure he is not happy about his lack of success and he probebly will get better in that , he has a problem or player rotation , but then again he gets better , he always improve slowly but surly , can't say the same about Allegri..
His tothenam squad this year is not the best , he lost some good players and his reinforcement is our bentancour and Kulusvski , 2 players that didn't do that well here...
 

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