Massimiliano Allegri (223 Viewers)

[U Picciriddu]

But that's what I'm saying. I doubt any of these players would even see the pitch if there were "more mature" players on the roster, even if they're not very good (Arthur, Bentancur vs Miretti last season, poor form McKennie vs Miretti and Fagioli now).

That Benfica match was before Rabiot returned from injury, immediately afterwards was the Monza match which Miretti also started. Rabiot came back after that in week 8 against Bologna, where Miretti played 13 minutes. But it's not even just about just Miretti. Look at Iling-Junior. We had him all this time but he has never played, now in two short cameos he has two assists. We've all been dying to see Fagioli this whole time, Allegri finally lets him play and he gets a beautiful goal in just minutes.

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Remember when Rabiot missed a big part of pre season only to start immediately in a horrible form. Occasions where we had Danilo as midfielder and many games with Kean as a winger.

If a answer if very obvious to everyone than it probably is true, trying to say here that we did wasted many opportunities where Allegri could’ve chosen for either Fagioli, Soule or Illing, but for some mysterious reason we only see them when we miss 10 players. Lets not forget that. I highly doubt that all of them would’ve played if we didn’t had so many injuries.

 

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[JUVEMOOD]

Ok and you're defaulted towards younger. If age is your determining factor you're both wrong, whether you default to older or younger guys.

The only thing that's been proven wrong over and over again is that it's not true Allegri doesn't play young guys, academy or otherwise. He plays them maybe even more than any other Juve coach in recent memory.

It's just that fans want him to play them all the time, every single one of them, regardless of anything else. And never criticize them at all, that kills their poor souls.

I am inclined into the better.. young or old..

But if I am a coach and is playing against the Monzas of the world.. I am for sure using a young player to build for the future.. something I never seen Allegro thinks about or consider as a "thing" at all..

 

[IlCapitano]

I am inclined into the better.. young or old..

But if I am a coach and is playing against the Monzas of the world.. I am for sure using a young player to build for the future.. something I never seen Allegro thinks about or consider as a "thing" at all..

Allegri didn't have academy players worthy of minutes before and had a team that was winning titles.

Now young players are playing more than they've ever played since I've been a fan which will be 20 years in April

 

[Vlad]

Allegri didn't have academy players worthy of minutes before and had a team that was winning titles.

Now young players are playing more than they've ever played since I've been a fan which will be 20 years in April

Its funny that he gets lambasted over apparently not giving enough of playing time to a young players but then they want to bring Conte back who plays sexy, exciting football . Cant we hire some other manager instead of recycling old names when things start going to shit?

 

[Hist]

Its funny that he gets lambasted over apparently not giving enough of playing time to a young players but then they want to bring Conte back who plays sexy, exciting football . Cant we hire some other manager instead of recycling old names when things start going to shit?

We were upset that Conte had a spell at Inter and felt betrayed. But we'd celebrate if Allegri goes there and feel relieved. Thats the difference. I wish Allegri upon Inter

 

[Vlad]

We were upset that Conte had a spell at Inter and felt betrayed. But we'd celebrate if Allegri goes there and feel relieved. Thats the difference.

You might, but you are not a benchmark.

 

[juve123]

You might, but you are not a benchmark.

Benchmark for juve fans?

 

[Hust]

We were upset that Conte had a spell at Inter and felt betrayed. But we'd celebrate if Allegri goes there and feel relieved. Thats the difference. I wish Allegri upon Inter

Never understood that about Italian fans - such a backward mentality…feeling “betrayed” because someone made their own career decision.

If I ever turn down an honest job promotion because I’m afraid to hurt someone’s feelings I should be fired for being weak.

 

[Vlad]

Benchmark for juve fans?

He likes to think that

 

[JuveJay]

This thread is absolute shite.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Defo a troll but I ll bite. After Macabi, we have played 4 matches, Torino, Empoli, Benfica and Lecce. Considering that 99.9% we went out of the CL after Macabi, Benfica game had no significance. Similar like PSG next week. So in 3 Serie A games, we won. Idc if we scraped win against Torino, we WON. Thats all it matters. We could have had 4 more points if not for blatant ref errors against Roma and Salernitana, but Im not referring to prior games.

Tonight's game wasnt horrid by any means. Its wasnt a great game either. We should have been infront before Fagioli's goal if for better finishing. So yes I can base my optimism on 3 wins in a row and loss in a meaningless game doesnt affect it.

The Benfica game was as relevant as all the others, a win would’ve granted us 2.8m and still some hope of surviving, while we find ourself in risk of not even going to the EL now because we lost. Don’t see any reason why we would filter that game out, it was a important game by any means.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Remember when Rabiot missed a big part of pre season only to start immediately in a horrible form. Occasions where we had Danilo as midfielder and many games with Kean as a winger.

If a answer if very obvious to everyone than it probably is true, trying to say here that we did wasted many opportunities where Allegri could’ve chosen for either Fagioli, Soule or Illing, but for some mysterious reason we only see them when we miss 10 players. Lets not forget that. I highly doubt that all of them would’ve played if we didn’t had so many injuries.

Thank you. I was trying to think of specific games this season but none immediately came to mind.

 

[Vlad]

The Benfica game was as relevant as all the others, a win would’ve granted us 2.8m and still some hope of surviving, while we find ourself in risk of not even going to the EL now because we lost. Don’t see any reason why we would filter that game out, it was a important game by any means.

We needed 3 results going our way, win against Benfica away, against the team that outplayed us at our ground, Macabi to take points off Benfica in the last round, while we would win against PSG, another team stronger than us. Looks like a science fiction to me. So there was no hope for me that all stars would align. In that situation cut your losses and focus on the competition in which we can still improve our standings.

 

[Post Ironic]

We were upset that Conte had a spell at Inter and felt betrayed. But we'd celebrate if Allegri goes there and feel relieved. Thats the difference. I wish Allegri upon Inter

What dumbassery.

Yeah, we’d celebrate the club coaching legend, the guy who did far better than Conte did here, going to Inter. We’d wish it.

Allegri should be sacked for this current spell, but in no world do I want club legends going to Inter. Especially one who likely could have improved them and made Inter relevant in Europe post-Conte’s dismal group stage exits there.

Plastic “what have you done for me lately” fans really are the worst sort.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Thank you. I was trying to think of specific games this season but none immediately came to mind.

For me, it isn’t about a few specific games, but rather a red line we could easily follow where Allegri (Pirlo aswel) preferred experienced players not even in their natural position over young players.

Another example; if Fagioli is a regista and he should only play there according to Max, then why the hell did we have to witness Locatelli struggling so much while there clearly was another possibility in Fagioli. Paredes who arrived completely out of form was preferred on many occasions. That doesn’t make sense to me. It’s about the usage, when and how, and especially when not where I get frustrated.

I’m happy that they played but coming back to your previous post, I highly doubt that we would’ve seen this volume of youngsters if we didn’t miss 10 players.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

For me, it isn’t about a few specific games, but rather a red line we could easily follow where Allegri (Pirlo aswel) preferred experienced players not even in their natural position over young players.

Another example; if Fagioli is a regista and he should only play there according to Max, then why the hell did we have to witness Locatelli struggling so much while there clearly was another possibility in Fagioli. Paredes who arrived completely out of form was preferred on many occasions. That doesn’t make sense to me. It’s about the usage, when and how, and especially when not where I get frustrated.

I’m happy that they played but coming back to your previous post, I highly doubt that we would’ve seen this volume of youngsters if we didn’t miss 10 players.

Don't forget loaning out Rovella as well, who also plays that specific position.

 

[U Picciriddu]

We needed 3 results going our way, win against Benfica away, against the team that outplayed us at our ground, Macabi to take points off Benfica in the last round, while we would win against PSG, another team stronger than us. Looks like a science fiction to me. So there was no hope for me that all stars would align. In that situation cut your losses and focus on the competition in which we can still improve our standings.

I disagree. Yes, the odds weren’t in our favour, but a win would’ve been very important (moral, financial benefits, maybe a miracle in CL). Now we even face the possibility of becoming last in the group. Not going to the EL would be a even bigger financial disaster, although the group might benefit a easier program without European football.

 

[Hust]

Don't forget loaning out Rovella as well, who also plays that specific position.

Boom - great point.

also would have been useful this season

 

[Post Ironic]

Its funny that he gets lambasted over apparently not giving enough of playing time to a young players but then they want to bring Conte back who plays sexy, exciting football . Cant we hire some other manager instead of recycling old names when things start going to shit?

In Conte’s 3 years here he gave one single young player playing time. Pogba. Not one other.

Meanwhile, Morty, Dybala, Bentancur, Rugani, Moise Kean all were given significant playing time as 21 or under during Allegri’s first 5 years.

But sure, Conte would give our youngsters all the playing time. Lol

 

[Clamarc]

Conte is officially club legend btw. Why he suddenly isn't considered as one?
I'm not sure about Allegri status