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#10

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Jul 28, 2002
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Well, everything else has been tried.

The reason why I never 'bought' the "Sarri and Pirlo were fired after winning trophies" reason to fire Allegri is because ALLEGRI was fired after a really good and dominant season domestically, after 5 years of dominance and great football actually.

Now, in a vacuum, Allegri deserves to get sacked today. No questions asked. But it doesn't work in a vacuum. There's the question of the replacement, of the financial part of it and to me the most importantly of finally persevering through something.

As I said in the beginning everything else has been tried. Fired 3 coaches who won trophies in a row, signed big and small players, changed management, spent big and small on wages, changed the medical staff more than once etc. Literally the only thing that wasn't tried was sending a message to the players and staying put with the coach. You can either get in line or gtfo.

And I am not saying you need Mbappe and Haaland to get better results, to beat Samp etc. But you also don't need the mix of SAF, Pep and Mourinho to motivate you, to be upset after Salernitana and show up in a decisive UCL game, to take a look in the mirror and do the bare minimum of your job on the pitch, to run back when Benfica is on a counter etc.

I agree that when a coach loses the locker room it is time to go. But a winning, healthy locker room full of champions. Not one consisting mostly of players who wouldn't sniff the worst of the 9 Scudetti in a row teams or players who are leaving at the end of this season. The only players you can say with (almost) certainty will be here next season are the GKs, Danilo, Bonucci, Bremer, Gatti, Locatelli, Pogba, Miretti, Chiesa, Kostić and Vlahović. Some are expiring, some are not good enough, some will be forced out, some are on loans etc. I am not sure how many of those would be in the 'lost them' part of the locker room, if that's even true.

Again, not to make it like the players are all at fault and Max is doing great, but we once again have the situation where the coach deserves looking at and the players deserve looking at. We went the coach route 3 times now, in every one of the previous instances there was talk of them losing the locker room. Maybe it's time we take the players route for once and let them lose themselves for a bit.
Please can you send me some of your magic optimism meds?

He was sacked the first time whilst winning. He is far worse than his first stint...and not winning.
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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The words of Giovanni Galeone (mentor of #Allegri), interviewed by Gazzetta dello Sport:

"I said it in the summer and I repeat it today: the complete #Juventus with #DiMaria, #Chiesa, #Pogba and the other injured players is a mediocre team. Without them, they become even worse and they would perform like what we saw against #Benfica."

"The first Max that joined #Juve is needed, the one who had strokes of genius and extraordinary lectures of games and players. Instead I see that the games of the bianconeri always end up the same way and I don't like it. Ok, some professors of football like #Barzagli or #Khedira are missing, but #Allegri has to invent something, otherwise I see it turning bad."

[@AroundJuventus]
 

DanielSz

Senior Member
Sep 6, 2014
14,345
The words of Giovanni Galeone (mentor of #Allegri), interviewed by Gazzetta dello Sport:

"I said it in the summer and I repeat it today: the complete #Juventus with #DiMaria, #Chiesa, #Pogba and the other injured players is a mediocre team. Without them, they become even worse and they would perform like what we saw against #Benfica."

"The first Max that joined #Juve is needed, the one who had strokes of genius and extraordinary lectures of games and players. Instead I see that the games of the bianconeri always end up the same way and I don't like it. Ok, some professors of football like #Barzagli or #Khedira are missing, but #Allegri has to invent something, otherwise I see it turning bad."

[@AroundJuventus]
Yes we need Pogba, Chiesa, and Di Maria to beat Salernitana and Benfica at home....have a seat ya old fuck.
 

IlCapitano

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2012
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The words of Giovanni Galeone (mentor of #Allegri), interviewed by Gazzetta dello Sport:

"I said it in the summer and I repeat it today: the complete #Juventus with #DiMaria, #Chiesa, #Pogba and the other injured players is a mediocre team. Without them, they become even worse and they would perform like what we saw against #Benfica."

"The first Max that joined #Juve is needed, the one who had strokes of genius and extraordinary lectures of games and players. Instead I see that the games of the bianconeri always end up the same way and I don't like it. Ok, some professors of football like #Barzagli or #Khedira are missing, but #Allegri has to invent something, otherwise I see it turning bad."

[@AroundJuventus]
Why is this dude getting a platform? He has lunch with Allegri once or twice a year and gets absolutely nothing correct in regards to Max, talks out of his all the time, but these papers present it always like Allegri is sending his friend to have his back in the media.
 

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