Massimiliano Allegri (465 Viewers)

[Post Ironic]

Open your eyes and stop talking nonsense. The same shit i can say about your gibberish and blind faith in asystem that is clearfly not working since years ago, and im talking about the coach. Negative italian coach with outdated tactics. Even players mock him, everyone despises his style of play. He is content with the horrendous display we did this season and has the guts to say we finished with decency. Yet im the one talking rubish

You can talk shit about me all you want, and attack me personally because thats the only thing you do when theres nothing else... but i dont need to back up anything, the truth is just there in your face.

preach more.

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The problem goes beyond adding 3 or 4 good players.

I dont know why no one talks about the elephant in the room and just focus on players players players. Just days ago morata mocked allegris tactics, i mean for him to do something like that, you can imagine how is the enviroment in the locker room. Players do not believe in the coach{s tactics anymore. Some good players licke chiesa and vlaho turned to rubbish this season and not so good players like kean, who was having an okaish season outside juventus, come here and turns into rubbish too.
The negative way we play, the lack of everythying this team has, this problem will not be solved just by adding the bum pogba and more "vlahovics"

Pretty sure I said nothing there that is a personal attack. And no one is arguing this was a good or promising season. It was disappointing shit.

But hedging your bets right now, in May, that if we do succeed next season it’s exclusively because of players and Allegri will be holding them back from being even better is beyond stupid. It’s embarrassing nonsense lol. If we have a successful season next year it will be because Allegri and the players have both done well. Just like this season was a failure because the players and coach both failed.

 

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[Hydde]

Pretty sure I said nothing there that is a personal attack. And no one is arguing this was a good or promising season. It was disappointing shit.

But hedging your bets right now, in May, that if we do succeed next season it’s exclusively because of players and Allegri will be holding them back from being even better is beyond stupid. It’s embarrassing nonsense lol. If we have a successful season next year it will be because Allegri and the players have both done well. Just like this season was a failure because the players and coach both failed.

It all will depend on how we play. My bet is that we will continue upon this negative football trend because this is the football the coach plays, but add to that some players that will maybe make this broken machine work somehow.

The problem here is our tactics and the way we play. You can add maradonas and zidanes and sure we could win, but the things that need fixing go way beyond just adding players and winning this average tournament.

As long as you continue ignoring that, we will never reach an agreement here. You are content with allegriball and thats unnaceptable.

What makes you think we will somehow improve our play next year with just players? if the one who is behind it doesnt changhe the way he sees football? tahts what i call nonsense.

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[Post Ironic]

It all will depend on how we play. My bet is that we will continue upon this negative football trend because this is the football the coach plays, but add to that some players that will maybe make this broken machine work somehow.

The problem here is our tactics and the way we play. You can add maradonas and zidanes and sure we could win, but the things that need fixing go way beyond just adding players and winning this average tournament.

As long as you continue ignoring that, we will never reach an agreement here. You are content with allegriball and thats unnaceptable.

What makes you think we will somehow improve our play next year with just players? if the one who is behind it doesnt changhe the way he sees football? tahts what i call nonsense.

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If Allegriball is what we saw from 2014-15 to 2017-18 absolutely I am content with it. 90+ pt domestic doubles, around +50 to +60 goal differences, 2 CL finals, being the only side to knock Madrid out of CL in 5 years. Being second best team in Europe with a limited budget and nowhere near the best squad. Yes, I am perfectly happy with those results and the Allegri-ball of those years. I enjoyed it immensely.

However, If he can’t get us back to a domestic force and top contender in CL than he should be sacked, absolutely.

But it’s not for you to decide what style of successful football is acceptable or “unacceptable” for me or this club lol.

 

[Mark]

Max can stay another year but these guys must go.
Injuries still high with these guys and we look tired too often.

 

[Hydde]

If Allegriball is what we saw from 2014-15 to 2017-18 absolutely I am content with it. 90+ pt domestic doubles, around +50 to +60 goal differences, 2 CL finals, being the only side to knock Madrid out of CL in 5 years. Being second best team in Europe with a limited budget and nowhere near the best squad. Yes, I am perfectly happy with those results and the Allegri-ball of those years. I enjoyed it immensely.

However, If he can’t get us back to a domestic force and top contender in CL than he should be sacked, absolutely.

But it’s not for you to decide what style of successful football is acceptable or “unacceptable” for me or this club lol.

2014 - 2015 was an exception because of the MVPP so dont even dare.

All of it is in the past now and he will most likely never emulate those lucky years. Its behind him and it can be clearly seen.

Anyways, next year he will have todo something way better than this season or he is out anyways.

 

[Stevie]

Even in his first stint with us he played negative boring football. We were successful so I didn't complain to much but most of our games in the league we went 1-0 and then just tried to cruise for the rest of the game instead of killing teams off. It came back to haunt us in Europe and on a few occasions in the league. Other big European clubs were smashing teams week in week out while scoring plenty of goals and it helped them be more ruthless in the CL.

We were in decline his last 2 seasons and there was a reason he was sacked. I thought he would came back with a new approach but he hasn't improved at all.

 

[Signora Omicidi]

He should leave his mark early into the next season. No more wait for March to see where we are.
Conte only needed a month to make Tottenham a well coached team . You don't need 6 months to be able to create 2 clear chances each game.

And no more 1000 injuries. It's so frustrating to see half the squad always out of the line up due to injuries.

 

[Post Ironic]

Even in his first stint with us he played negative boring football. We were successful so I didn't complain to much but most of our games in the league we went 1-0 and then just tried to cruise for the rest of the game instead of killing teams off. It came back to haunt us in Europe and on a few occasions in the league. Other big European clubs were smashing teams week in week out while scoring plenty of goals and it helped them be more ruthless in the CL.


We were in decline his last 2 seasons and there was a reason he was sacked. I thought he would came back with a new approach but he hasn't improved at all.

This simply isn’t true and I’ve shown it before. For example, we won 30 games in our 95 pt 17-18 season which y’all claim we were in decline. A +62 goal differential. In our 30 wins we outscored our opponents by 65 goals. An average of over 2 goals difference per win. Explain to me how we were eking out 1-0 wins frequently with an 86-24 goal record that year. Thanks in advance

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He should leave his mark early into the next season. No more wait for March to see where we are.
Conte only needed a month to make Tottenham a well coached team . You don't need 6 months to be able to create 2 clear chances each game.

And no more 1000 injuries. It's so frustrating to see half the squad always out of the line up due to injuries.

Conte crashed out of Conference League, losing to the worst ranked team in the entire competition. He crashed out of one of the domestic cups to a championship team. It’s a lot easier to focus only on a single competition and fail miserably in every other one.

But I still agree we need to see improvements early next season.

 

[juve123]

So Rus has been banned for celebrating Italiano tactical masterpiece against Allegri?

 

[Juve_fanatic]

I want Zidane

 

[campionesidd]

2014 - 2015 was an exception because of the MVPP so dont even dare.

All of it is in the past now and he will most likely never emulate those lucky years. Its behind him and it can be clearly seen.

Anyways, next year he will have todo something way better than this season or he is out anyways.

Bruh what? He had to reinvent his team in 2015-16, 2016-17 and 2018-19. The difference was that there were enough champions in the team then, now it’s mostly just a bunch of mentally weak good for nothing overpaid mercenaries who don’t know what it means to wear the Juve shirt.

 

[Post Ironic]

Bruh what? He had to reinvent his team in 2015-16, 2016-17 and 2018-19. The difference was that there were enough champions in the team then, now it’s mostly just a bunch of mentally weak good for nothing overpaid mercenaries who doesn’t know what it means to wear the Juve shirt.

The fact he calls them “those lucky years” tells you all you need to know

 

[Hydde]

The fact he calls them “those lucky years” tells you all you need to know

cant wait to see next season all the wonderful excuses you will have for him

 

[Paolino]

I have a feeling he will be sacked unexpectedly

 

[Post Ironic]

cant wait to see next season all the wonderful excuses you will have for him

I’ll ask for him to be sacked if the season goes like this. Sorry to rain on your boring parade, Princess.

 

[Hydde]

I’ll ask for him to be sacked if the season goes like this. Sorry to rain on your boring parade, Princess.

Ill remind you for sure.

Even the most fervent of zealots has a limit it seems

 

[Signora Omicidi]

It's interesting to see how 2 players performed before and after Juve.

Kulu scored and assisted every 187 mintues under Allegri and scored and assisted every 87 minutes under Conte.

The same goes for Vlahovic except his numbers were way better in his first team.

These are the details that worry me more than results.

 

[Dino_mk]

How is it possible so many people have forgot why hi was sacked first time!?

 

[Badass J Elkann]

It's interesting to see how 2 players performed before and after Juve.

Kulu scored and assisted every 187 mintues under Allegri and scored and assisted every 87 minutes under Conte.

The same goes for Vlahovic except his numbers were way better in his first team.

These are the details that worry me more than results.

You could also see it with chiesa before his injury that his output wasn't as good as it was under Pirlo

 

[Bianconero81]

Just leaving some facts here - I am neither an Allegri Throater nor a Hater btw.

The Juventus of Allegri finished with 8 points less than that of Pirlo (70 against 78), losing 2 more games (8), scoring 20 fewer goals (57-77) while conceding the same number of goals.

Our exit in the CL was far more humiliating, as we were humbled 3-0 at home, conceding three goals in under 15 minutes.