Massimiliano Allegri (201 Viewers)

[Cerval]

Reflecting after the game, if we are in this position, it’s not that bad. If we had beaten Villarreal and reached the Champions League quarter-final, we might’ve used up energy needed to retain fourth place in Serie A. So let’s look at the positives.

Conversely Cadiz won against Villareal

 

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[Juventino[RUS]]

Rabiot, the player of the season

Of Juventus*.
Easily. If i had to choose top 3 it's him, Cuadrado e Danilo. My personal choice is Rabiot tho.

 

[Bianconero81]

What a dunce.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

What a dunce.

@Enron

 

[Bianconero81]

Did I hurt your feels? Dunce is not a major insult you hypersensitive manchild.

What, we can't call people silly or foolish anymore? Cry me a river.

As Shaq says, "Man Up. Put some Icy Hot on those feelings."

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Reopen mod thread

 

[Lion]

He will be here next season too so I have no choice but to support him, but hope to God he solves our non existent attacking play.

you can support juve. best thing to do is miss games lol

 

[X Æ A-12]

He gets one more season because 1) his successful past. 2) we've already commited a shitload of wage to him 3) its a bad idea to keep changing coaches every season.

Even if you think he's been shit this season its simply not practical to sack him now. Better gamble to give him one more season, with improved squad, and hope he gets it right.

If the next season resembles this season, lacking progress, then, yes, he should be sacked.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

He gets one more season because 1) his successful past. 2) we've already commited a shitload of wage to him 3) its a bad idea to keep changing coaches every season.

Even if you think he's been shit this season its simply not practical to sack him now. Better gamble to give him one more season, with improved squad, and hope he gets it right.

If the next season resembles this season, lacking progress, then, yes, he should be sacked.

Kyle, it's been said from anti-allegri gang for many times. You would have noticed it if you didn't skip the posts. If i was president i'd fire him but they won't that's we have to wait for august-november to understand if he will get it right or not.

 

[Robee]

And we got sent home by the 7th placed team in La Liga.

Who also sent Bayern home. If anyone thought our team had a chance in the CL, they should be taken to mental care, right at the spot.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Everything that was said 4 years ago might be said right now and it won't change a thing. wha he was doing for 3 years? nothing at all.

Yes of course do we have plenty of shots and chances against Serie A minnows. But if you look at our squad, and Pjanic said it as well. This is probably the best Juventus team ever. The material and width is simply that good. Real Madrid and Barca are winning CL regularly when they have this quality of players. We are playing the most random football ever though. No plan at all. Players out of position, they are thrown in left and right to be able to play them all.

Btw I cant trust the intellect of a guy who thinks it is smart to do the famous Barzagli substitute. It was so arrogant. As if it was some sort of italian pride, to put on an extra CB and *lock it down*. And when he keeps playing Mandzukic and in random positions that is. When he is afraid of utilizing subs against small Serie A teams when we are 2 goals ahead and then gives them 2 min. There are many things going on thats simply too retarted. I like the dude and he is probably the most stable and among the best italian coaches, but I feel he needs a team that is twice as good as anyone else, in order to be able to win the CL.

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You are more than welcome to enlighten us about our gameplan. You can start by explaining how it works when we play 4-3-3 with Ronaldo - Dybala - Mandzukic.
Big boy.

I have not been able to post much lately, but ill up my game i promise you.

Theres nothing much to say anyways tbh. Basically the way we play reflects on the coach we have, and some important players seem to be struggling under him. Thats all theres to it.

We can snatch a victory here and there against serie a minnows, but our gameplay never changes.

We will get exposed if things continue as they are.

Dont be so mean! Ok i keed i keed.

But lets real talk here. Are you seriously saying with a straight face that we are just fine and all is allright because the gazillion points we have in serie A? WHere theres no competition for us practically?

On top of that we got ronaldo, wo we dont even needed to win serie A anyways. This no secret.

Have u seen the team we have? We have GREAT players in every line, even on the bench. And somehow we seem to not know how to link a pass or make stars like dybala and pjanic work to their fullest.

Something is wrong. I dont want to be a downer but really i think serie A is giving us a false sense of superiority.

Look at the other “big teams” in serie A. They are no match for us in the long run. Not even close.

What im sure, is that we have players to play to higher standards.

Last year our tedious style of playing didn't change when we reached March and only got worse. We could have easily lost the title if it wasn't for Higuain's last minute winner against Inter.

So I won't expect us to reach some sage mode Naruto reaching March this time either.

But I'm much worried about our injury record , because with the healthy squad and top teams being weak we can go far and test our luck again.

BTW , I checked UcL grope record and it seems we are the only group winner that scored less than 10 goals.

Not surprising at all.

Yeh. Thats thw worrysome part.
We clinch to that urban legend about magically getting super good after winter. Never happens.

Thats too extreme in the opposite direction. There is so much room between what some here are satisfied with and winning 100% with great style. We keep getting stuck between either getting results with life-draining football OR having tons of chances in a positive entertaining performance but not getting results.

I don't know why its so difficult to play positive dominant football AND getting the results at the same time. It cant be that difficult in this Serie A and this easy CL group. This season should be Allegri's last chance to get the formula right.

Sack and get Zidane in January.

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I disagree. Conte's Juve was far more entertaining to watch.

Tbf, Klopp did reach the CL final twice with arguably worse players than Allegri.

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I guess I just see quality of play as something similar to entertaining play.

And he lost them both too because he played stronger opponents. Why is he celebrated and wanted as an upgrade then?

I don't want him over Allegri. I just find it funny that people criticize him a lot when he's in reality a really good coach.

It's not necessarily about style, it's about playing at 100% of your potential (no more half-assing) and dominate your opponent - and I don't mean by that to have senseless possession. This is the last step for us before being able to steamroll CL and go the next level.

Unacceptable performance. You can't play this bad with these players. His time here is over, it was actually over couple of years ago. Now he became a nuisance.

Not cutting it mr allegri.

Some players are playing like crap, but sorry mr.

I still remember the day Conte resigned and Allegri took the job. Almost all members except some Conte haters were all crying and loosing their shit, bashing management left and right for giving the job to this guy.

I remember i was the only one between my friends that i believed we would get a better result in CL with Allegri and thought it was a right time Conte left the club.

Our gameplay and passing improved massively under Allegri in his first season and that let us playing some silky football and going far in the CL because of it. we weren't able to play half as pretty with exact same players under Conte. He got too pragmatic in his last 2 seasons and left and betrayed his philosophy of his game.
Talking shit about our players not good enough for CL always made me fuming because i believed that team could give more under another circumstances.

Assigning Allegri and reaching CL final suddenly showed that Conte was wrong and we all laughed at his 10 euros restaurant with each win in the CL.

Fast forward i have the same feeling i had 4 years ago during Conte's era. I believe this team can give a lot more than of what is showing right now. We don't even play on the level of Allegri's first season despite having a much stronger Squad. Don't bring up the 2015's midfield, we all know it wasn't as good as we think of it right now. Vidal was extremely out of form, couldn't even pass the ball correctly, Pirlo was simply past it and showed weakness in his last season a lot.Pogba and Marchisio were the only mids playing up to their name that year. Even Pogba got injured but our level of passing and gameplay never dropped even with guys like Padion in the line up.

What I try to say is, don't expect some disastrous results without this guy at the helm, we might even play much better and get better results under another coach you guys are laughing at or bashing just like when we appointed Allegri 4 years ago.

 

[Hist]

This is true during the decline I am not contesting that. We were noting that something was wrong with our style getting progressively worse over time and we suspected the results will decline as well. He eventually got sacked for it. And that decline continued through other coaches albeit shitty ones.

Nevertheless we should give him another season unless Zidane or a clear upgrade becomes available. Not amateurs nor Sarri types.

 

[Hydde]

Everything that was said 4 years ago might be said right now and it won't change a thing. wha he was doing for 3 years? nothing at all.

Woah, sad indeed. The writings were there since years ago. But the truth cannot be hidden and the people who really knows cannot be fooled. This outcome is what i was trying to warn since years ago. But people are blind.

 

[Post Ironic]

Some real classics there.

2018-19 was the best Juve squad ever

Much stronger than our 2015 squad.

Our 2015 midfield wasn’t that good.

We may get better performances and results under a new coach we’re laughing at (Sarri)

 

[Bianconero81]

Some real classics there.

2018-19 was the best Juve squad ever

Much stronger than our 2015 squad.

Our 2015 midfield wasn’t that good.

We may get better performances and results under a new coach we’re laughing at (Sarri)

2018-2019 was indeed the best squad ever.....

Spoiler: Indeed

.. if you started watching Juventus that season

2015 midfield shits on any midfield we've had since. It's at least two levels above any other midfield we've assembled since and obliterates the current midfield.

 

[Post Ironic]

2018-2019 was indeed the best squad ever.....

Spoiler: Indeed

.. if you started watching Juventus that season

2015 midfield shits on any midfield we've had since. It's at least two levels above any other midfield we've assembled since and obliterates the current midfield.

Has to be a child posting this. Someone who only started watching Juve post-calciopoli and even then, sooooo wrong. 2015 squad shits all over 2019 squad lol

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

At least 10 Juve players are not even talking to Allegri. - Momblano

I wonder how many doesn't talk to him nowadays

If most of our players are mediocre, I would hate to see what you call Henderson, Milner, Origi, Shaqiri, Wijnaldum, Matip, Gomez.

I'm sorry but I can't agree that we are full of mediocre players. That is going overboard now.

what about the brand of football liverpool played? Grit, tactic and conrol of the games? you mean being overly cautious because you lack ideas in going forward? People including max himself fail to understand while others have waterguns such as origi, we posesses a fucking uzi in Ronaldo. what brand of football does allegri play? Liverpool poured forward and broke barcas calm and organization, it was tactics, grit and control of the game. meticulous planning in not to concede a goal. was liverpool running like headless chickens? excuses, and more excuses...world doesnt work that way. we have ronaldo being serviced like he is fucking fellaini enough is enough. no excuses, zero, none.

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thanks smartypants and what was liverpool called? showing up with huge balls with a player called origi and raping barca by pressing? planning? why didnt we play the second half of ajax (the mighty ajax which to some max fanboys here was going to go all the way) with nothing left to lose? keep running that mouth it will make max improve. Nobody here likes Juventus except maxifans.

Welcome to the club.

Finally this charade is ending. The guy is toasted since 2 seasons ago.

I dont know what the future holds, but TODAY we are just hitting our heads against the wall game after game trying to make a hole on it, but it will never happen.


Again, time for a change

@Hydde @JuveE46 @MikeMabsolutely on point they all in their allegri's cult are on anti klopp agenda since 2016-17

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Listen, seriously guys, i dont want to continue bashing allegri...i really dont. But ill just say we need to ring the bells and try to find a solution to this. Last week it was dybala, this week was Buffon who criticized the performance of the team. You dont see players like them talking like this everyday. Is not about lack of fitness anymore. Something deeper is going on and i hope Allegri fixes this soon.

Our mdifield is not clicking and our 352 depended on the old MVP performances.

Allegri needs to find a way to make this thing workl...or agnelli and co will have to show the money and buy players to make our nmidfield work. Because if this is our limit....then like buffon said...it is not enought to go all the way.

Im waiting for marchisio´s return....and im pretty sure we will up at least a level when he comes back...but do not fool ourselves thinking he is some kind of saviour. Our other midfielders need to perform and i see too many inconsistencies in them right now.

See, for them it's always the players - pick any year 2016 17 18 19 22 @Hydde you was calling out them for their bs literally for years

 

[IliveForJuve]

Who also sent Bayern home. If anyone thought our team had a chance in the CL, they should be taken to mental care, right at the spot.

That's not the point. We were never going to win CL.

We lost to a team that's not even going to be in Europa league next season. We are truly embarrassing. And I don't give two shits about Bayern - that's like saying you didn't do your homework because all the other kids didn't either.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

There is no way Max is topping what Antonio did in Serie A. Quote me on this. It is virtually impossible (ok, maybe not)

As for performances in the CL, I think Allegri should be able to better Conte's record. I mean, we reached the QFs one year, and were bumped out of the group stages the next. Shouldn't be hard to improve on that right?

I think you need to stop to guessing things. It doesn't matter who - you are shitting on everything since the day you've created account here.

 

[juve123]

Some real classics there.

2018-19 was the best Juve squad ever

Much stronger than our 2015 squad.

Our 2015 midfield wasn’t that good.

We may get better performances and results under a new coach we’re laughing at (Sarri)

Conte's Juve was far more entertaining to watch.