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The guy saying a coach needs more than two seasons to see European results (nevermind that Allegri came in and took Conte’s group stage exit team to CL final a year later), completely ignores that it’s 100% on Conte that he hadn’t stayed anywhere longer. He quit Juve in a tantrum about transfers (Iturbe 
), got sacked by Chelsea after missing out on CL places, and quit Inter again after having a tantrum about transfers.
Conte has only himself to blame for never staying with a club long term so far.
), got sacked by Chelsea after missing out on CL places, and quit Inter again after having a tantrum about transfers.Conte has only himself to blame for never staying with a club long term so far.
The guy saying a coach needs more than two seasons to see European results (nevermind that Allegri came in and took Conte’s group stage exit team to CL final a year later), completely ignores that it’s 100% on Conte that he hadn’t stayed anywhere longer. He quit Juve in a tantrum about transfers (Iturbe ), got sacked by Chelsea after missing out on CL places, and quit Inter again after having a tantrum about transfers.
Conte has only himself to blame for never staying with a club long term so far.
), got sacked by Chelsea after missing out on CL places, and quit Inter again after having a tantrum about transfers.Conte has only himself to blame for never staying with a club long term so far.
Better q is is Conte the better league coach than Allegri yet?
Can't wait to see how many scudetti Max won with the best team in an argument form.
Interesting that there's a positive correlation between repetition, extremism, cultism, and lack of prefrontal cortex activity and more basal ganglia (reptilian brain) activity.
Can't wait to see how many scudetti Max won with the best team in an argument form.
Interesting that there's a positive correlation between repetition, extremism, cultism, and lack of prefrontal cortex activity and more basal ganglia (reptilian brain) activity.
Are you really this mentally challenged?
Allegri has played CL 10 times, 10/10 getting past group stage now. 2 CL finals (at Juve), 3 CL QFs (2 at Juve, 1 at Milan), and 4 CL Rof16 (3 at Milan, 1 at Juve).
Conte has played CL 5 times, 2/5 getting out of group stage. 1 Rof16 (Chelsea), 1 QF (Juve).
You are the forum’s biggest moron if you think these two CL records are comparable in the slightest or just down to “luck”
Allegri has played CL 10 times, 10/10 getting past group stage now. 2 CL finals (at Juve), 3 CL QFs (2 at Juve, 1 at Milan), and 4 CL Rof16 (3 at Milan, 1 at Juve).
Conte has played CL 5 times, 2/5 getting out of group stage. 1 Rof16 (Chelsea), 1 QF (Juve).
You are the forum’s biggest moron if you think these two CL records are comparable in the slightest or just down to “luck”
On a différent note, I believe in criticism no matter what the results are. No one should be immune to criticism, Even Allegri. If he doesn’t reach his goals, he will need to address that. The same applies to the board and the players.
I love Allegri and I am all for giving him at least the full season. But the fans are expecting to see concrete change soon. I’m not expecting a top 4 finish but I’d like to at least see some identity and organized football. I do believe it’s achievable even with the jabronis we have. I would start by moving Chiesa back to the wing and giving Kaio some playing time.
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Oh, of course winning it is the end goal… and losing finals certainly sucks. But you have to get out of group stage and win knockout rounds to even have a shot at winning CL. Are you seriously saying that as a fan you’d be okay with just losing group stage if we don’t win the whole thing? Because I’m not at all that sort of fan. I love each and every match we win, each and every knockout round we progress through, even if we don’t win it all in the end. I’d rather we give it our all and come up just shy, over throwing in the towel at group stage and saying we can’t afford to dine in 100€ restaurant. While you obviously cannot be bragging about finishing runner’s up, there’s still a much greater sense of accomplishment after progressing through multiple knockout rounds to get there. Max has won 9 CL knockout ties in his career. Conte has won 1. That’s a huge difference and shows that one of them has the coaching chops in this specific competition, while the other does not.
To the second part, agree 100%. Allegri has done a poor job thus far, regardless of how mediocre the squad has become, and the mess and incompetence in upper management. I think all of us agree there. Max needs to do better. The debate is over how much time he should be given. Those who support him think his accomplishments in the recent past for this club mean he should be given patience. I want to see big improvement by the end of season.
To the second part, agree 100%. Allegri has done a poor job thus far, regardless of how mediocre the squad has become, and the mess and incompetence in upper management. I think all of us agree there. Max needs to do better. The debate is over how much time he should be given. Those who support him think his accomplishments in the recent past for this club mean he should be given patience. I want to see big improvement by the end of season.
Because he's worse than Sarri. Because he's Italian. Because he's a conservative coach. Because he's worse than Pirlo. Because current results are disappointing with this excellent squad we have. Because he never won us the CL. Because we don't play beautiful football. Because they dislike him as a person. Because they're not that bright. Because bitching & complaining is all they do. Because they know better. Because he supposedly doesn't trust youth players. Because ...
Or a combination of any of the above. Take your pick
Or a combination of any of the above. Take your pick
Because he's worse than Sarri. Because he's Italian. Because he's a conservative coach. Because he's worse than Pirlo. Because current results are disappointing with this excellent squad we have. Because he never won us the CL. Because we don't play beautiful football. Because they dislike him as a person. Because they're not that bright. Because bitching & complaining is all they do. Because they know better. Because he supposedly doesn't trust youth players. Because ...
Or a combination of any of the above. Take your pick
Or a combination of any of the above. Take your pick
I am with you 100%. I love it every time we win, winning a CL game is always something that brings excitement and hope that we can go far and win it all. Max came close twice but didn’t achieve the ultimate goal. If he had won at least 1 final, he would have definitely been the greatest Juve coach in my book. I don’t even rate Conte in Europe. I’m still not over the way he walked away from the club. Replacing him with Max turned out to be one of the best decisions our board has made. The rest is history. I can’t even compare the 2, because I believe that Max is by far the better coach and tactician.
Maybe one day I would like to see a top non Italian coach managing the team, maybe someone who has a different philosophy. Now Do I think that Max is also better than some of these top non Italian coaches out there? Absolutely not, I’d rather not mention their names because it’s obvious who I’m referring to. Are they available? Probably not. So we stick with Max and give him the appropriate amount of time. But the clock is ticking and the team needs to gel ASAP. Although, I can’t entirely judge him when he has to deal with brain dead players like Berna, Sandro, Rabiot, Benta and the list goes on. These are our regular starters, this is how fucked up our squad is. Nonetheless, as a fan who loves the club and who enjoys to see us win every game and every trophy, I expect Max to sort this shit out before it’s too late and we lose out even on Europa League. I truly believe that a good coach can still come up with a solid starting lineup regardless of what names he throws in there. Max is a world class coach, that’s why the bar should be higher for him than for the likes of Pirlo and Sarri.
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Maybe one day I would like to see a top non Italian coach managing the team, maybe someone who has a different philosophy. Now Do I think that Max is also better than some of these top non Italian coaches out there? Absolutely not, I’d rather not mention their names because it’s obvious who I’m referring to. Are they available? Probably not. So we stick with Max and give him the appropriate amount of time. But the clock is ticking and the team needs to gel ASAP. Although, I can’t entirely judge him when he has to deal with brain dead players like Berna, Sandro, Rabiot, Benta and the list goes on. These are our regular starters, this is how fucked up our squad is. Nonetheless, as a fan who loves the club and who enjoys to see us win every game and every trophy, I expect Max to sort this shit out before it’s too late and we lose out even on Europa League. I truly believe that a good coach can still come up with a solid starting lineup regardless of what names he throws in there. Max is a world class coach, that’s why the bar should be higher for him than for the likes of Pirlo and Sarri.
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