Massimiliano Allegri (242 Viewers)

[campionesidd]

These are slightly misleading statistics. If Ronaldo was not with us last season someone else would have played in his place, but we would never know how they would have performed.
Morata also started far better last season and if not for Ronaldo he would have had more goals/assists.
Morata last season, all tournaments untill 02.12.2020:
Games Goals Assists
14_______9______4
Morata this season for the same period:
Games Goals Assists
18_______5______2

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One of the reasons why Morata had a good season was because of Ronaldo. He wasn’t as heavily man-marked as he is now.. We don’t have anyone over 4 league goals after 15 games, last year Ronaldo already had 14 goals at this stage.
Ronaldo is definitely a huge loss to this team ,anyone who says otherwise is just delusional.

 

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[DAiDEViL]

@JuveE46 I knew it, what did I tell you? It was coming at some point

Repetition is much needed for folks like you who have their own truth.

 

[Dominic]

One of the reasons why Morata had a good season was because of Ronaldo. He wasn’t as heavily man-marked as he is now.. We don’t have anyone over 4 league goals after 15 games, last year Ronaldo already had 14 goals at this stage.
Ronaldo is definitely a huge loss to this team ,anyone who says otherwise is just delusional.

Not sure about this. Morata's best (most productive) games last season were when Ronaldo did not play.

 

[Dostoevsky]

And Ronaldo almost always played.

 

[Jäger]

Repetition is much needed for folks like you who have their own truth.

It's really not that hard to understand. In order to have a cup coach, you need to have a league coach. Allegri quite evidently isn't suited for this rebuild, and has demonstrated nothing so far this year to convince me that he is performing any better than Sarri and Pirlo, both of whom were lambasted here for their results, by the same people who coddle Allegri from criticism.
It's all well and good bringing up cup records from 5 years ago as a means of justifying Allegri's re-appointment, but when it's looking increasingly like he might not even qualify for the tournament itself at this rate, your argument immediately falls flat. No domestic success = no european success. Quite simple really.
I'd take winning the league and re-establishing our dominance at home over getting to the semi-final of the UCL any day. Our UCL hopes can wait a couple years if it must

 

[il brutto]

Conte, if he was a bit more lucky

I'd argue that his European record is already on par with Trap and Lippi, if not better.

 

[Post Ironic]

I'd argue that his European record is already on par with Trap and Lippi, if not better.

Conte has the best European record if you take luck and random chance out of the equation.

 

[JuveE46]

The idiots in here who think a coach can just come in, start from scratch have two years in Europe and do more
with average bench and go all the way it's a symptom of mental diarrhea mixing up reality with your wishes and dreams and your fifa video games... Even if it were possible Look at the numbers.

it's CLEARLY CONTES fault you mental midgets..leading in every single stat below and losing whose fault is that? Fucking idiotic. Our players got scored on in 85th min with that one goal from snijder to lose out next stage of CL by one fucking point in the last game (while still with more chances than Gala in that match). What about the other 5 matches before, dominated, couldn't score, CONTES fault..lol Look at the fucking stats and quit clowning

Above grade two level mathematics beyond this point:



Copenhagen 1-1 Juve:
Possesion% 44/56
Shots on target: 6/13
Corners:3/16

Juve 2 -2 Galatasaray
Possession% 57/43
Shots on target 13/5 corners 11/0

Real 2-1 Juve Chiellini red Min48
Possession% 52/48
Shots on target 7/7
Corners 4/5

Juve 2-2 Real
Possession% 51/49
Shots on target 13/7
Corners 7/3

Juve 3-1 Copenhagen
This win clear enough.

Gala 1-0 Juventus
Snijder min 85
Posession% 51/49
Shots on target 3/7

 

[s4tch]

i have no difficulties admitting that despite being a toxic cunt and a spineless piece of shit, conte is a great manager, one of the best in the business currently. but defending his straight out terrible and unacceptable european record? dude, just don't. that's not his forte, get over it.

 

[juventus4life]

Ibra talked about Max's time at Bilan:

With Milan, we had lost 3-0 to Arsenal in the Champions League and he was all happy,” Ibrahimovic said as quoted by Football Italia.

“It’s true that we went through, but there was nothing to laugh about, and I pointed it out to him.

“He told me to think about myself, that I played bad. I replied that he did bad: over fear he had brought two goalkeepers on the bench…

“Allegri is very good at managing the locker room, but he had to have more courage. He should have gone to Real Madrid, to measure himself in foreign countries. Instead, he made the comfortable choice.”

 

[Jäger]

Ibra talked about Max's time at Bilan:

With Milan, we had lost 3-0 to Arsenal in the Champions League and he was all happy,” Ibrahimovic said as quoted by Football Italia.

“It’s true that we went through, but there was nothing to laugh about, and I pointed it out to him.

“He told me to think about myself, that I played bad. I replied that he did bad: over fear he had brought two goalkeepers on the bench…

“Allegri is very good at managing the locker room, but he had to have more courage. He should have gone to Real Madrid, to measure himself in foreign countries. Instead, he made the comfortable choice.”

And this is precisely why the players have no urgency on the pitch. His attitude is terrible.

 

[kao_ray]

Ibra talked about Max's time at Bilan:

With Milan, we had lost 3-0 to Arsenal in the Champions League and he was all happy,” Ibrahimovic said as quoted by Football Italia.

“It’s true that we went through, but there was nothing to laugh about, and I pointed it out to him.

“He told me to think about myself, that I played bad. I replied that he did bad: over fear he had brought two goalkeepers on the bench…

“Allegri is very good at managing the locker room, but he had to have more courage. He should have gone to Real Madrid, to measure himself in foreign countries. Instead, he made the comfortable choice.”

He's a juventino. Of course he's gonna laugh.

 

[K.O.]

We are believing what comes out of this Zingaro's mouth now? lol

It's more courageous to take charge of this pathetic Juventus squad than any other job in the world.

 

[Xperd]

We are believing what comes out of this Zingaro's mouth now? lol

It's more courageous to take charge of this pathetic Juventus squad than any other job in the world.

I think in hindsight, it was stupid of him to take this job while he had the Real Madrid job offer waiting in line tbh.

Ibra is kinda right. He should've tested himself in foreign leagues. Not that I'm complaining that he took this job but he had much more appealing projects with bigger budgets to work with.

 

[K.O.]

I think in hindsight, it was stupid of him to take this job while he had the Real Madrid job offer waiting in line tbh.

Ibra is kinda right. He should've tested himself in foreign leagues. Not that I'm complaining that he took this job but he had much more appealing projects with bigger budgets to work with.

Of course. I already said that I think Allegri made a stupid decision taking the Juve job over Real Madrid, but Zlatan is hinting Max is a coward for wanting the easier job. There's no way this Juve represents an easier challenge with all that emerging competition in Serie A compared to Real Madrid in La Liga where Barca were on the verge of bankruptcy.

 

[Xperd]

Of course. I already said that I think Allegri made a stupid decision taking the Juve job over Real Madrid, but Zlatan is hinting Max is a coward for wanting the easier job. There's no way this Juve represents an easier challenge with all that emerging competition in Serie A compared to Real Madrid in La Liga where Barca were on the verge of bankruptcy.

Juventus is not an easy challenge but I think Ibra meant to say that he went back to his comfort zone where he has been successful before. Whether or not he'll succeed again is a different question but he came back to a familiar environment where he has worked for 5 years as opposed to an unknown quantity like the PL or Real Madrid.

I rate him as a coach but I think this is one of the reasons why he will be below the likes of Klopp and Guardiola.

He really made a poor choice by coming to this mess.

 

[Post Ironic]

i have no difficulties admitting that despite being a toxic cunt and a spineless piece of shit, conte is a great manager, one of the best in the business currently. but defending his straight out terrible and unacceptable european record? dude, just don't. that's not his forte, get over it.

No one is even calling Conte a poor manager. He’s a top manager with a great Record. But has the worst European record amongst all the top managers. And not just at Juve. Everywhere he’s been.

Meanwhile some expressing their 5 years of endless frustration that Max won trophy after trophy while they hated him. They seem positively gleeful that we are struggling right now.

 

[s4tch]

zlatan, the guy who left juve instead of playing in serie b, who picked psg, the undisputed king of a farmers league, who returned to his milanese comfy shithole, talks about taking risks cute

 

[Bjerknes]

We are believing what comes out of this Zingaro's mouth now? lol

It's more courageous to take charge of this pathetic Juventus squad than any other job in the world.

Allegri didn’t know the squad was pathetic. He had to rely on Chiellini to tell him that during a match. Anything but courageous.

 

[Jäger]

We are believing what comes out of this Zingaro's mouth now? lol

It's more courageous to take charge of this pathetic Juventus squad than any other job in the world.

You don't need to take his word for it to know its true. The guy was laughing and smiling on the sideline after Chelsea scored the 4th goal