Massimiliano Allegri (225 Viewers)
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Huh? Are you trying to say I was right or wrong? And what has this got to do with the A_j post that you quoted? I've certainly never complained over our midfield, although like many I do think there is some room for improvement with the right additions. I even explained my views on this on the very same discussion you decided to quote me on.
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People blame Capello only because of Juventus' CL campaigns when Juve lost to the winner and to the runner-up in those two seasons, the same fuckers often forgot that Cannavaro restarted his career under Capello and became world's best cd, Vieira became more attacking player, Trezeguet had his best season ever with 23 goals scored in serie a and Capello won 2 scuddeti in a row against Ancelotti and his Milan who was 2005 finalist and won the cup in 2007, yeah but you will only remember one thing - that juventus was boring under Capello
No, my point is that Allegri could have easily lose to Milan back then with that Juventus squad, yet people dickride him around here and put shame on Capello's name for playing boring football while Max's Juventus has won 2 or even 3 scudetti playing boring super tactical football
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Allegri almost choked last season and we were lucky that Napoli lost to Fiorentina 0-3 right after they beat us 1-0.
No one is denying Allegri's achievements but how can you say that Capello's football is boring when you just had a coach who'd like to play super tactical football too and won most of his trophies in the similar way with Capello
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And we don't know and we can only guess what would happen with Capello's Juventus in the CL if he had 3 more seasons with that squad
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Allegri almost choked last season and we were lucky that Napoli lost to Fiorentina 0-3 right after they beat us 1-0.
No one is denying Allegri's achievements but how can you say that Capello's football is boring when you just had a coach who'd like to play super tactical football too and won most of his trophies in the similar way with Capello
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And we don't know and we can only guess what would happen with Capello's Juventus in the CL if he had 3 more seasons with that squad
Capello was past it. Very rigid coach, with outdated ideas. Unlike Allegri, who isnt set on specific system. Ive always felt he reads the game well and then makes adjustments, exploiting weak points of opponent. Good example would be game against Tottenham, where his moves changed result and his subs have been spot on during his tenure.
I agree with Rus though about Capello. Capello’s teams had more potential to succeed in CL, but he Made choices. He drained the team for a hardfought serie a win.
That team looked dull in europe in the knock-outs, but he built a fortress. Sadly well never know what foundations he laid.
Dont forget the team he took over from Lippi was a mess as well to be honest.
That team looked dull in europe in the knock-outs, but he built a fortress. Sadly well never know what foundations he laid.
Dont forget the team he took over from Lippi was a mess as well to be honest.
And yet Allegri’s teams played in 2 CL finals in his first 3 years here. While Capello with a far superior squad came nowhere close.
I have no doubt we would have won CL in the 2007-2010 period, after we upgraded on Capello. Moggi built him a great team, arguably the strongest in football on paper. He flubbed it in CL.
Of course, there’s a chance he would have suffocated teams all the way to a CL victory at some point in the next few years if he stayed, but it sure didn’t seem likely at the time.
I have no doubt we would have won CL in the 2007-2010 period, after we upgraded on Capello. Moggi built him a great team, arguably the strongest in football on paper. He flubbed it in CL.
Of course, there’s a chance he would have suffocated teams all the way to a CL victory at some point in the next few years if he stayed, but it sure didn’t seem likely at the time.
Maybe..
Two years is a short time. Moggi did build him a great team, No arguing there. One built on veterans though. The team seemed unable to change gears back then. Could be on Capello, but also maybe it was a slowly ageing and slightly imbalanced side.
O well ancient history now.
Just saying Capello was far from being all bad.
Two years is a short time. Moggi did build him a great team, No arguing there. One built on veterans though. The team seemed unable to change gears back then. Could be on Capello, but also maybe it was a slowly ageing and slightly imbalanced side.
O well ancient history now.
Just saying Capello was far from being all bad.
Very outdated ideas ? How so? 442? We had Blasi, Vieira, Emerson and Appiah in the middle and you wanted him to use which formation? Infront we had dp, Trez , ibra and mutu, which formation you have to use to put most of them on the field? 433 won't work, what else? He did his job, he won 2 scudetti as for champions League we have faced unbelievably lucky Liverpool and next season it was best and strongest Arsenal in the history of this game
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Capello didn't want to finish the game and play all in ? Yes, the very same way that Allegri's squad was playing , should I remind you our shitfests against Real, Napoli or you name it, we give away the ball and then we pray that we won't concede
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Capello didn't want to finish the game and play all in ? Yes, the very same way that Allegri's squad was playing , should I remind you our shitfests against Real, Napoli or you name it, we give away the ball and then we pray that we won't concede
You try so hard to be reasonable, but you come across as a bit deluded.
You think that Matuidi is great, Khedira is great, Mandzukic is good enough, and we a world class squad. You also think that Allegri is on par with the best managers around.
But the reality is that that we lost 4 out of 10 games in Europe and we can barely string 3 passes together against an opponent that presses us.
You think that Matuidi is great, Khedira is great, Mandzukic is good enough, and we a world class squad. You also think that Allegri is on par with the best managers around.
But the reality is that that we lost 4 out of 10 games in Europe and we can barely string 3 passes together against an opponent that presses us.
Can you see Capello's side overturning 2-0 deficit? Didnt happen against either Pool or Arsenal. And dont forget how lucky we were against Werder, scoring last minute goal from a goalies mistake. Going all out against Real in Madrid last season, Atletico this one... Allegri's Juve had more facets, various formations that he deployed, players sold, new ones integrated, adapting to opponents or imposing our game and in all this the final outcome didnt change much.