Massimiliano Allegri (204 Viewers)

[alexjuventino]

As much as I respect Allegri and know of his quality I wish we would try someone who could give an identity to this team.

I really feel like what everyone has been saying about Max is true. I love him and I still want him as our coach, but I feel like he is too scared to bench players like Mandzukic, Buffon, Chiellini and Barzagli.

Given he is our coach next year, I hope he makes these adjustments and plays those who deserve to play instead of experience or seniority.

 

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[Salvo]

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[Hydde]

Its his 4th season here. Nothing much will change, thats what i think.

 

[Bianconero81]

I used to like you but man you have so much of what I dislike of Egyptian culture in you. Try to rid yourself of the anti-semitism and homophobia you'll be much better for it. There is no "keeping it real" in this you are smarter than that.

I honestly don't care what you think man. I'm not anti-semitic or homophobic at all. I am just sick and tired of people pushing this PC agenda at all times; people should be allowed to express themselves freely without fear of hurting the feeling of others. If someone is offended, that is on them.

Tbh, I hate the herd mentality that is so prevalent in Egypt. I watched a video of that "heretic" they hosted on a show, and the host was so vulgar and aggressive towards him; the Muslim clergyman invited to discuss the issue told the kid he needs psychiatric help. I was disgusted by this attitude and the delusion, the arrogance, and the blind faith they have in religion.

 

[Post Ironic]

Its his 4th season here. Nothing much will change, thats what i think.

You will cry and moan about Allegri for another year. Nothing ever changes.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

I hope he stays. I've learned over the years that it's easy to admire coaches when they are at another club. Allegri is not perfect, he made some stupid mistakes, most recently getting fucked by Ronaldo again the same way as in the final, and he has a boner for some average players (all managers are like that. I remeber Lippi being very annoying at times).

The point is, there aren't many coaches out there better than him and if we let him go, we risk donwgrading significantly.

Don't get me wrong, I won't be mad if he stays. He's proved his quality time and time again but I also believe he took us as far as he could and I really don't see us going any further meaning another shot at a CL title, no matter who we buy.

Maybe someone who's better at breaking down this mental block we seem to have at the big stage combined by adding a style, a character and an identity to the way we play.

 

[Orgut]

Honestly you cant really put too much blame on Allegri in terms of results - He delivers - 2 CL finals in 3 years (going to be 2 in 4) isnt a bad result and we beat great teams on the process and always went out after meeting a stronger team..
Based on attitude - The Real game is definitely something to blame as if Liverpool could put 3 over City we could have at least lose with more honor..

 

[CrimsonianKing]

What coach wouldve consistently motivated and achieved the results we have despite chopping and changing half the squad every year?
Very few
Keep Max

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We failed hard the 3 chances we got at the CL. Sure they were better teams but the way we lost both finals and what happened last week was more than just disappointing. It sends the wrong message to the players in the team and whoever considered joining us. Obviously money talks, it won't stop players from coming here if we have the money but this surely won't be their first choice destination.

Main reason to me as I already stated is that I personally don't think he can take us any further.

 

[Post Ironic]

We failed hard the 3 chances we got at the CL. Sure they were better teams but the way we lost both finals and what happened last week was more than just disappointing. It sends the wrong message to the players in the team and whoever considered joining us. Obviously money talks, it won't stop players from coming here if we have the money but this surely won't be their first choice destination.

Main reason to me as I already stated is that I personally don't think he can take us any further.

No coach takes us further as currently constructed. And most coaches don't take us anywhere near where Allegri has.

And no, there was very clearly nothing wrong with the way we lost in 2015 final. It was 1-1 midway through the second-half and we were carrying the play until Barca scored on a counterattack. The 3rd goal was in injury time as we were pressing for an equalizer. Hardly some embarrassing loss.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Honestly you cant really put too much blame on Allegri in terms of results - He delivers - 2 CL finals in 3 years (going to be 2 in 4) isnt a bad result and we beat great teams on the process and always went out after meeting a stronger team..
Based on attitude - The Real game is definitely something to blame as if Liverpool could put 3 over City we could have at least lose with more honor..

True but even if we were to blame the players, you can't fire them all. Unfortunately that's how Football works, the manager will always take the hit. But even looking from your point of view, that means he either can't really connect to the players for reasons unknown or doesn't know how to stimulate and give them the confidence to do what they're supposed to.

 

[Bianconero81]

Lol what? We played a very good game against RM. Individual errors and Dybala red card was why we lost.

You don't lose 3-0 at home and call it a very good game; that's the epitome of a disaster. We played reasonably well until the 60th minute, but then our inferior mentality and fear kicked in. That's the difference between us and Madrid; they own this competition, and we are still scared little girls. Madrid always seemed to be in control, confident that the tie was theirs and they could score when they wanted to. Sure, we maintained possession and wasted a couple of opportunities, but you never got the impression that we were really a threat to Madrid. When they wanted to, they turned it on and had a couple of incredibly dangerous opportunities as well. Dybala's red card isn't the reason we lost. We lost the tie before it even started. We lost the tie in the media, prior to kick off, with the old guard showing too much respect, fear almost, and admiration to Ronaldo and Mardid. Tbh, they just fell short of sucking him off. Last year, we were too presumptuous and over-confident; this year we were too reverent and humble.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

No coach takes us further as currently constructed. And most coaches don't take us anywhere near where Allegri has.

And no, there was very clearly nothing wrong with the way we lost in 2015 final. It was 1-1 midway through the second-half and we were carrying the play until Barca scored on a counterattack. The 3rd goal was in injury time as we were pressing for an equalizer. Hardly some embarrassing loss.

The only reason we can't say it was embarassing is because every one of us knew that Barcelona was simply miles ahead in every aspect of the game. We stood no chance. But by the time we faced Madrid we had the best defence this club since maybe late 90's or 00's, everybody was at their best (Alves, Alex Sandro and Bonucci) and still got our asses handed on a plate.

We can assume and pretend we know what happened in the locker room, that is if anything happened at all... But truth is on the second half we put on a loser's mentality and got what we deserved for being that way. We can blame the players all we want but it was Allegri's job to keep the train on the tracks.

 

[Post Ironic]

The only reason we can't say it was embarassing is because every one of us knew that Barcelona was simply miles ahead in every aspect of the game. We stood no chance. But by the time we faced Madrid we had the best defence this club since maybe late 90's or 00's, everybody was at their best (Alves, Alex Sandro and Bonucci) and still got our asses handed on a plate.

We can assume and pretend we know what happened in the locker room, that is if anything happened at all... But truth is on the second half we put on a loser's mentality and got what we deserved for being that way. We can blame the players all we want but it was Allegri's job to keep the train on the tracks.

What? We can say it's not embarrassing because we went blow-for-blow with Barcelona for 90 minutes. The first 20 minutes sucked as our players were very tentative, but after that everything about that performance was worth praising, including Allegri's tactics.

Real Madrid was a disaster. But it also doesn't help that the team just couldn't get their shit together. Players couldn't get their touches right, it was pathetic. Alves and Bonucci were 2 of the worst players on the pitch in that game. So let's not act like they were at their best in that match just because they were in previous matches in the knockouts.

And yes, I hold Allegri responsible for part of that, but it's laughable to suggest a coach who may have led us to 4 straight domestic doubles after this year, 2 CL finals, and has never been knocked out in the CL by a team that's not a clearly bigger team than us, while also coaching the only team to beat Real Madrid in the last 4 years, and also to spank Barcelona last year... it's laughable to suggest it's Allegri that is holding us back, considering Marotta sells half his star players each summer.

 

[Juvellino]

We played well v Barcelona in the final but we have a bad habit of conceeding early goals.

 

[Hust]

The only reason we can't say it was embarassing is because every one of us knew that Barcelona was simply miles ahead in every aspect of the game. We stood no chance. But by the time we faced Madrid we had the best defence this club since maybe late 90's or 00's, everybody was at their best (Alves, Alex Sandro and Bonucci) and still got our asses handed on a plate.

We can assume and pretend we know what happened in the locker room, that is if anything happened at all... But truth is on the second half we put on a loser's mentality and got what we deserved for being that way. We can blame the players all we want but it was Allegri's job to keep the train on the tracks.

 

[Orgut]

True but even if we were to blame the players, you can't fire them all. Unfortunately that's how Football works, the manager will always take the hit. But even looking from your point of view, that means he either can't really connect to the players for reasons unknown or doesn't know how to stimulate and give them the confidence to do what they're supposed to.

We dont need to.. Some of our players are great some are less and we all know we cant get from 0 to 100 in 1 season and knowing our management we just need to hope we grow gradually until one day we will be as good as Real and Barca..
By how things are going - My guess it will take at least 10 more years (new players+Messi and C.Ronaldo to retire)

 

[Hydde]

You will cry and moan about Allegri for another year. Nothing ever changes.

Its funny that u and others always try to diminish my posts responding with Ad hominems, trolling or funny stuff.... but then 8 posters below me say the same thing and suddenly its fine not to troll them. There must be an horde of trolls in this forum by your logic.

Sorry for you, but im not alone on my way of thinking and doesnt matter how many troll post you do against me...you cant fool intelligent people who see whats going on on the field.

You can get comfort in your stats and 2 finals, but no.

 

[DAiDEViL]

What? We can say it's not embarrassing because we went blow-for-blow with Barcelona for 90 minutes. The first 20 minutes sucked as our players were very tentative, but after that everything about that performance was worth praising, including Allegri's tactics.

Real Madrid was a disaster. But it also doesn't help that the team just couldn't get their shit together. Players couldn't get their touches right, it was pathetic. Alves and Bonucci were 2 of the worst players on the pitch in that game. So let's not act like they were at their best in that match just because they were in previous matches in the knockouts.

And yes, I hold Allegri responsible for part of that, but it's laughable to suggest a coach who may have led us to 4 straight domestic doubles after this year, 2 CL finals, and has never been knocked out in the CL by a team that's not a clearly bigger team than us, while also coaching the only team to beat Real Madrid in the last 4 years, and also to spank Barcelona last year... it's laughable to suggest it's Allegri that is holding us back, considering Marotta sells half his star players each summer.

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What coach wouldve consistently motivated and achieved the results we have despite chopping and changing half the squad every year?
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[Xperd]

What coach wouldve consistently motivated and achieved the results we have despite chopping and changing half the squad every year?
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Perhaps he could have done even better if we had a better mercato than what we had last summer. Critical positions in the starting line-up were reinforced with above average players at best. (Matuidi and De Sciglio). Our medical staff also ensure that our 'depth' players are spending more time on the treatment table than the bench.

A coach can only do so much in such conditions.

 

[Alin]

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More or less, this.