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pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
11,045
It's hard to rate coaches, Zidane and Allegri did what was pretty much expected of them and their teams, which is tough when the expectations are sky high. Conte broke records and won PL in his first season there with a revolutionary system and Jardim surprised everyone with Monaco getting great results and playing great football. For me any one of these coaches deserve the prize.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,079
He dominated the Premier League in his first season there, when everyone thought the title battle would be between Baldy and Jose.
He had much greater claims to the top coach award when he had an undefeated season with us in 11/12. Winning the PL with Chelsea isn't that huge of an achievement, they only won it two years prior with the same squad.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
It's hard to rate coaches, Zidane and Allegri did what was pretty much expected of them and their teams, which is tough when the expectations are sky high. Conte broke records and won PL in his first season there with a revolutionary system and Jardim surprised everyone with Monaco getting great results and playing great football. For me any one of these coaches deserve the prize.
In the end it will always go to the coach who won CL (or WC/EC).
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Buffon votes Allegri Coach of the Year
By Football Italia staff


Massimiliano Allegri received just five first place votes for FIFA's Coach of the Year, getting the nod from Gianluigi Buffon but not Giampiero Ventura.

The captain and Coach of each FIFA nation was asked to pick three tacticians to receive the prize, with their first preference receiving five points, second three points, and third one point.

Real Madrid Coach Zinedine Zidane won in a landslide, but perhaps more surprising is that Allegri, a double winner and Champions League finalist with Juventus last season received so few first preference votes.

Juventus and Italy captain Gianluigi Buffon voted for his club Coach, but Azzurri CT Ventura went for Diego Simeone, followed by Antonio Conte and Zinedine Zidane.

St Lucia captain Randy Poleon picked Allegri for his first choice, as did the Coaches of Bosnia & Herzegovina, Chinese Taipei and Taiwan.

A media representative from each country was also given a vote, but Gazzetta dello Sport’s Fabio Licari put Allegri in third behind Zidane and Conte.

Carlo Ancelotti finished seventh overall, with 3.62 per cent of the vote/
Utterly disgusting

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He dominated the Premier League in his first season there, when everyone thought the title battle would be between Baldy and Jose.
Oh, he won the greatest unforced defensive error league, with all competition beeing buzy in europe or beeing poor


Allegri won our 6th scudetto, coppa and was '45 away from a trebble


What the fucking hell is your problem
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
So, because he doesn't agree with you it becomes a problem? You really do enjoy being a cyber bully.

Allegri failed in the biggest game of our season, where we got annihilated 4-1 by Real Madrid. I'm not endorsing Conte as the best, but he also has a claim. Zidane won both La Liga and the CL, so he clearly deserves it.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
So, because he doesn't agree with you it becomes a problem? You really do enjoy being a cyber bully.

Allegri failed in the biggest game of our season, where we got annihilated 4-1 by Real Madrid. I'm not endorsing Conte as the best, but he also has a claim. Zidane won both La Liga and the CL, so he clearly deserves it.
no, he had no CL. shouldnt be in the top 3...

Zidane
Allegri
Monaco coach
Conte/Simeone
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
He really needs to figure out what to do about the defense. I don't like it at all. But this forum, ffs. The people moaning about the defense, are the same people who moaned about not scoring enough, when the defense was superb.
 

B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,649
Defence not as good, but attack best its been for a long time. If we can somehow fix the defence in January we have a shot at the CL again.
Got a feeling we monitoring Porto's right back, though that seems unlikely for January. any decent options would be cup tied.
 

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
14,322
When we move the ball at pace we look dangerous, we have done it well in a few games this season but need to do it more.

He really needs to figure out what to do about the defense. I don't like it at all. But this forum, ffs. The people moaning about the defense, are the same people who moaned about not scoring enough, when the defense was superb.
Maybe they just want a balanced team and to improve on our weaknesses. :shifty:
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,849
There are some matches where I ask myself if we're a sleeping giant. We are scoring 3 goals per match so far this year while last year it was only 2. That kind of increase in attack is worthy of praise. Then you look at the defence and it's worse. But is it worse enough to negate our attack? I don't think that's true.

But the big factor for me is the RB position because last year we had Alves in the 2nd half and you could legitimately say that at times our RB was the best player on the pitch. This year, however, you can definitively say our RB (whoever it is) is easily the worst player on the pitch. Our RB is offering nothing in attack and nothing in defence.

So I wonder how much difference someone like Howedes makes. An option that offers nothing offensively but surely makes a big difference in set pieces and defensively. Sometimes going from the absolute worst option to average can make a big difference.

Then there are even smaller variables like Dybala's PK misses which have cost us 3 points. If he scores them, the "cracks are papered over" quite well. VAR decisions have not always been beneficial either.

TLDR: I think our ceiling is a lot higher than last year but we just aren't seeing it yet.
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,692
There are some matches where I ask myself if we're a sleeping giant. We are scoring 3 goals per match so far this year while last year it was only 2. That kind of increase in attack is worthy of praise. Then you look at the defence and it's worse. But is it worse enough to negate our attack? I don't think that's true.

But the big factor for me is the RB position because last year we had Alves in the 2nd half and you could legitimately say that at times our RB was the best player on the pitch. This year, however, you can definitively say our RB (whoever it is) is easily the worst player on the pitch. Our RB is offering nothing in attack and nothing in defence.

So I wonder how much difference someone like Howedes makes. An option that offers nothing offensively but surely makes a big difference in set pieces and defensively. Sometimes going from the absolute worst option to average can make a big difference.

Then there are even smaller variables like Dybala's PK misses which have cost us 3 points. If he scores them, the "cracks are papered over" quite well. VAR decisions have not always been beneficial either.

TLDR: I think our ceiling is a lot higher than last year but we just aren't seeing it yet.
Always on point.
 

Cerval

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2016
26,829
There are some matches where I ask myself if we're a sleeping giant. We are scoring 3 goals per match so far this year while last year it was only 2. That kind of increase in attack is worthy of praise. Then you look at the defence and it's worse. But is it worse enough to negate our attack? I don't think that's true.

But the big factor for me is the RB position because last year we had Alves in the 2nd half and you could legitimately say that at times our RB was the best player on the pitch. This year, however, you can definitively say our RB (whoever it is) is easily the worst player on the pitch. Our RB is offering nothing in attack and nothing in defence.

So I wonder how much difference someone like Howedes makes. An option that offers nothing offensively but surely makes a big difference in set pieces and defensively. Sometimes going from the absolute worst option to average can make a big difference.

Then there are even smaller variables like Dybala's PK misses which have cost us 3 points. If he scores them, the "cracks are papered over" quite well. VAR decisions have not always been beneficial either.

TLDR: I think our ceiling is a lot higher than last year but we just aren't seeing it yet.
Our attack is yet to be tested against a top CL club except for Barcelona, but it looks to me that although it's very good, it's not exceptional relative to the European powerhouses. We are not and won't be scoring as much in Europe. Hope to be wrong.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,820
It's hard to rate coaches, Zidane and Allegri did what was pretty much expected of them and their teams, which is tough when the expectations are sky high. Conte broke records and won PL in his first season there with a revolutionary system and Jardim surprised everyone with Monaco getting great results and playing great football. For me any one of these coaches deserve the prize.
Revolutionary only in the prem. Those formations and tactics have existed in Serie A since prehistoric times.

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Defence not as good, but attack best its been for a long time. If we can somehow fix the defence in January we have a shot at the CL again.
If we have at least 4 of Marchisio/Khedira/Pjanic/Matuidi and Bentancur fit, we are set. The RB is still a spot for concern though.
 

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