Massimiliano Allegri (219 Viewers)

[j0ker]

Still don't get it, how we managed to do fuck all for 75minutes against a team who had only ONE CB in Kimmich on the field. While conceding 4 in the process.

Guardiola might be annoying and all but he pwned Allegri.

 

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[Ocelot]

The only thing that I took umbrage with was the substitution of Morata for Mandzukic. IN my opinion, Zaza would have made more sense, because it would have given us a "more of the same" type of tactic with Zaza in there. Once Morata came out, any hope of counterattacks went out the window. And for those who question the Sturaro sub. Given his last few performances in the CL, did anyone honestly think that he would have played as poorly as he did last night?

But on a coaching and tactical level, he was great. A lot of people here, and quite frankly, around the world thought that Juve were done for even before the match started. To lose Chiellini, Marchisio, and Dybala (the news just got worse and worse leading up to the match), and to have arguably the 2nd best club in the world on the ropes, in their house where they rarely, if ever lose.

I can't fault him for this at all. It was unreasonable to expect Juve to play like that for an entire 90 minutes against a superior club away from home. As people have said, give him that Bayern squad, or Real Madrid, and he would dominate Europe.

Yeah yesterday was a really really great performance, no doubt about that in any way. I might hurt now, but looking back it won't be that bad at all.

 

[Elvin]

31 out of 32 teams leave CL sad. It's ok guys. It will pass.

 

[baggio]

31 out of 32 teams leave CL sad. It's ok guys. It will pass.

That's actually more profound than you intended it to be.

 

[Cronios]

Yes there are many excuses and any coach in the world could lose to this Bayern.

It is said that professional football is using certain types of dopping substances and the best among them remain untrecable and have the maximum effects, Italy and Spain are good , but German and Dutch labs were the best in busysiness,
these rumors go way back to the cold era times, when Germany was seperated in eastern and western and superhuman records bursted out in all sports and of course the superhuman generation of Dutch and German legendary footballers, whos prime quality was superior strength, speed and stamina, helped to establish those rumors.

Truth or not, Bayern was always a dominant force in Germany and abroad, with huge farmaceutical support and superior morale, built on trillion titles.They never let go, they always try till the end, when all others fail, like the legendary panzer tanks that have conquered the world. And many times they have managed to repeat such late comebacks.
The workrate demanded in the German league, keep them in those high standards, like the high tactical needs keep us in Italy.
Many times this workrate could compensate to tactical or technical compromises, but in the past decade Bayern are back to their best, they are in a very strong financial position and they ensure that they have some of the best talents in the world in key positions.
In general they were always aiming on essence, rather than finesse the Italians do, spectacle the Spain do and speed the EPL does. They were always tough as nails and unstoppable, when this core is fused with quality and technique, they make them smth unstoppable, we may not outrun and outjump the English teams, but we can outdribble them, we might not outdribble the Spain teams, but we can outmuscle them.
A good Bayern is smth we cannot outplay.

So i considered us very unlucky and disqualified since the day we were drawn with them.
Our only hope was to tactically own them and dont let them take advantage of their superior athletic condition and of course let Pep find a way to blow it.
The choices we made were both times forced due to injuries and in rest Max was always carefull not to ket us outrun and outmuscled, even the yesterday Hernanes forced gamble has payed off decently.
We pressed them very hard, scored twice and right there we were spent.
I actually think, we did the best we could with the available material.
Injuries and transfer innefficiencies were beyond Allegri's hands, he did well and helped us go out with a very respectful way!

 

[Vlad]

Still don't get it, how we managed to do fuck all for 75minutes against a team who had only ONE CB in Kimmich on the field. While conceding 4 in the process.

Guardiola might be annoying and all but he pwned Allegri.

Without 4 key players?

If our finishing didn't let us down for the umpteenth time this season, we'd have killed Bayern.

 

[baggio]

Allegri is better than Guadiola and it's not even close. Give Allegri that Bayern team and he would beat Barcelona.

 

[KB824]

Yes there are many excuses and any coach in the world could lose to this Bayern.

It is said that professional football is using certain types of dopping substances and the best among them remain untrecable and have the maximum effects, Italy and Spain are good , but German and Dutch labs were the best in busysiness,
these rumors go way back to the cold era times, when Germany was seperated in eastern and western and superhuman records bursted out in all sports and of course the superhuman generation of Dutch and German legendary footballers, whos prime quality was superior strength, speed and stamina, helped to establish those rumors.

Truth or not, Bayern was always a dominant force in Germany and abroad, with huge farmaceutical support and superior morale, built on trillion titles.They never let go, they always try till the end, when all others fail, like the legendary panzer tanks that have conquered the world. And many times they have managed to repeat such late comebacks.
The workrate demanded in the German league, keep them in those high standards, like the high tactical needs keep us in Italy.
Many times this workrate could compensate to tactical or technical compromises, but in the past decade Bayern are back to their best, they are in a very strong financial position and they ensure that they have some of the best talents in the world in key positions.
In general they were always aiming on essence, rather than finesse the Italians do, spectacle the Spain do and speed the EPL does. They were always tough as nails and unstoppable, when this core is fused with quality and technique, they make them smth unstoppable, we may not outrun and outjump the English teams, but we can outdribble them, we might not outdribble the Spain teams, but we can outmuscle them.
A good Bayern is smth we cannot outplay.

So i considered us very unlucky and disqualified since the day we were drawn with them.
Our only hope was to tactically own them and dont let them take advantage of their superior athletic condition and of course let Pep find a way to blow it.
The choices we made were both times forced due to injuries and in rest Max was always carefull not to ket us outrun and outmuscled, even the yesterday Hernanes forced gamble has payed off decently.
We pressed them very hard, scored twice and right there we were spent.
I actually think, we did the best we could with the available material.
Injuries and transfer innefficiencies were beyond Allegri's hands, he did well and helped us go out with a very respectful way!

A healthy Juve squad with Chiellini, Marchisio, and Dybala in that starting 11, playing the way they did, defeats Bayern. This has nothing to do with the transfer market. You were doing great until that last sentence.

 

[GarfielD]

What are you guys talking about, how were his subs not right? Sub is justified the moment it happens, not after the game ends, and we should all agree that all of the subs were reasonable in the moment they happened. If we were a bit more lucky and won 1-2 no one would have talked about the subs.

For a start, Sturaro for Khedira was reasonable sub, Sami was so tired out there. Mandzu for Morata was also a good one, I understand the reason for bringing Mario in cause he is the player that can hold a ball good, can get a long ball perfectly and can run his ass off in defence, but it just didnt work last night. I dont think thar bringing Zaza in would change more in that situation cause Bayern was going all in on us.. Pereyra for Cuadrado was reasonable as well. We are not Bayern and we dont have Robben, Coman, Alcantara on the bench. You may sugest that taking Evra was the right call, but Evra is so experienced and no way that Rugani was going to do better than him vs that attacking Bayern. We all know how shaky and unexperienced Rugani is.

Our injuries were the main problem yesterday, not Allegri's subs! Mainly Giorgio and Marchisio ones. Hernanes was lost there, Marchi would be so much better... Giorgio was missed in the defence as well, but then again if Giorgio played yesterday A. Sandro would be on the bench. All things concidered, it just wasnt meant to be.

And lol @ the people saying Max should go...

Forza Max! Stay with us forever Mister.

 

[Cronios]

A healthy Juve squad with Chiellini, Marchisio, and Dybala in that starting 11, playing the way they did, defeats Bayern. This has nothing to do with the transfer market. You were doing great until that last sentence.

After the 80-90 mil spent on Manzdukic, Dybala and Zaza and considering that Morata is not scoring more than 15league goals per season, i raised a certain scoring efficiency issue flag, we were going to face, esp in the most challenging moments of our season.

With Tevez gone, our priority was a prolific finisher, we have a tendency to spend them around on subs, instead of quality.
Even without Dybala, Morata and co were good enough to create chances, but most of our scoring comes from our midfield, whilenour forwards are not scoring with consistency. Since the summer, i pointed out that a team with such a weaknes can only go that far in a strong competition.

Hopefully we will realise that and do smth about it!

 

[KB824]

After the 80-90 mil spent on Manzdukic, Dybala and Zaza and considering that Morata is not scoring more than 15league goals per season, i raised a certain scoring efficiency issue flag, we were going to face, esp in the most challenging moments of our season.

With Tevez gone, our priority was a prolific finisher, we have a tendency to spend them around on subs, instead of quality.
Even without Dybala, Morata and co were good enough to create chances, but most of our scoring comes from our midfield, whilenour forwards are not scoring with consistency. Since the summer, i pointed out that a team with such a weaknes can only go that far in a strong competition.

Hopefully we will realise that and do smth about it!

Quite honestly, he is the one that I would have brought on for Morata, as aside from Dybala, he is the most efficient striker that we have. I think that going forward, Dybala can be the CF, and if we are going to use formations that do not place an emphasis on crosses or any type of aerial game, then we need forwards who can beat their man on and off the dribble.

 

[s4tch]

A healthy Juve squad with Chiellini, Marchisio, and Dybala in that starting 11, playing the way they did, defeats Bayern. This has nothing to do with the transfer market. You were doing great until that last sentence.

the best tactical move by allegri was that we started with only 1 striker and we could press bayern's defenders right in the middle of their own half. sandro and cuadrado excelled in doing that, i'm not sure about dybala. i appreciate the guy, he's a class act and he's been tremendous this term, but for a pressing game, 2 strikers is one too many. having seen what we achieved with this 4-5-1/4-3-3/4-2-3-1 (you name it), it should have been either morata or dybala in the starting lineup anyway.

 

[KB824]

the best tactical move by allegri was that we started with only 1 striker and we could press bayern's defenders right in the middle of their own half. sandro and cuadrado excelled in doing that, i'm not sure about dybala. i appreciate the guy, he's a class act and he's been tremendous this term, but for a pressing game, 2 strikers is one too many. having seen what we achieved with this 4-5-1/4-3-3/4-2-3-1 (you name it), it should have been either morata or dybala in the starting lineup anyway.

But you can press with Dybala playing behind Morata as well. Especially given Dybala's workrate.

 

[s4tch]

But you can press with Dybala playing behind Morata as well. Especially given Dybala's workrate.

you can, but when it comes to pressing, sandy > dybala in my book.

btw we could have played conte's dream 4-2-4 with pogba+khedira in midfield, with sandy+cuadrado on the flanks, morata+dybala in the middle. an über-attacking lineup for sure, but having seen how anonymous alonso was for bayern, it could have worked, too.

 

[j0ker]

Without 4 key players?

If our finishing didn't let us down for the umpteenth time this season, we'd have killed Bayern.

Yes because Bayern weren't missing Robben, Boateng etc.

As I said we managed to do fuck all against a team without defenders for 75 minutes. How do you explain that?

 

[Raz]

Yes because Bayern weren't missing Robben, Boateng etc.

As I said we managed to do fuck all against a team without defenders for 75 minutes. How do you explain that?

We didn't do anything against them? We scored two, one was disallowed questionably, could have scored few more. Defended great until we ran out of gas and had to sub in inferior players.

I really disagree we didn't do anything. With the players we had available with the game being away we had a great game.

 

[j0ker]

We didn't do anything against them? We scored two, one was disallowed questionably, could have scored few more. Defended great until we ran out of gas and had to sub in inferior players.

I really disagree we didn't do anything. With the players we had available with the game being away we had a great game.

You missed the 75 minutes part?

Second half plus extra time.

And I don't get the we got tired part either, aren't Bayern players humans too?

 

[Cerval]

Our second half was basically the same as our first half in the first leg, fuck this.

 

[K.O.]

Just change your medical team ffs.

I encourage all of you guys to comment constantly on Juve's social media accounts regarding this issue. We as fans need to draw attention to it.

The last time Juventini pressured the management to do stuff was back when Cobolli Gigli was in charge. And that brings back some awful memories.

 

[Hydde]

Our second half was basically the same as our first half in the first leg, $#@! this.

the first one was because of pussy mentality and inferiority complex.

yesterday´s was mainly because we got tired and the subs killed our gameplan.