Massimiliano Allegri (221 Viewers)

[Vlad]

Yes because Bayern weren't missing Robben, Boateng etc.

As I said we managed to do fuck all against a team without defenders for 75 minutes. How do you explain that?

Undeniable fact is that we had more absentees. Another fact is that we could and should have finished the game way before. However, I still think part of the blame lies on him for the subs he made. In the first leg though he subs changed the game.

That said I cannot but feel massive respect at how this team improved under him. Few seasons ago we werent capable of creating a single goalscoring chance against Bayern over the two legs. This year we put 4 goals past them and they were minutes away from elimination.

 

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[ElApache]

and i thought that Allegri was better than Pep...

Please tell me this guy is only pretending to be retarded to make fun of retards who actually thinks this way.

 

[duranfj]

Max did better than Pep. Juve lost the game cuz Evra's mistake and Subs didn't do their part... Pep was complitely dominate by Max

 

[Big Bang]

You missed the 75 minutes part?

Second half plus extra time.

And I don't get the we got tired part either, aren't Bayern players humans too?

You're in desperate need of a reality check. The fact that we were able to hold out as long as we did against them is a miracle. It's naive to think that right now, Bayern aren't a class (or two) above us.

Probably the best striker in the world (Lewa, completely forgetting Muller), some of the best wingers in the world (Robben & Ribery), some of the best midfielders in the world, and probably the best goal keeper in the world. Managed by probably the best manager in the world.

We are over achievers. They had an off-day, thought the job was done, but that still wasn't enough for us. We have maybe 1-2 players in our whole squad that have a shot of being starters in Bayern. Almost every Bayern player would be an insta-starter for us.

Let's not kid ourselves just because we can cruise-control our way to one Scudetto after another by beating the likes of Empoli and Chievo while our "competitors" struggle - Bayern are on another level, and the fact that we made it look like they weren't is an achievement that should not be scoffed at.

 

[Klin]

You're in desperate need of a reality check. The fact that we were able to hold out as long as we did against them is a miracle. It's naive to think that right now, Bayern aren't a class (or two) above us.

Probably the best striker in the world (Lewa, completely forgetting Muller), some of the best wingers in the world (Robben & Ribery), some of the best midfielders in the world, and probably the best goal keeper in the world. Managed by probably the best manager in the world.

We are over achievers. They had an off-day, thought the job was done, but that still wasn't enough for us. We have maybe 1-2 players in our whole squad that have a shot of being starters in Bayern. Almost every Bayern player would be an insta-starter for us.

Let's not kid ourselves just because we can cruise-control our way to one Scudetto after another by beating the likes of Empoli and Chievo while our "competitors" struggle - Bayern are on another level, and the fact that we made it look like they weren't is an achievement that should not be scoffed at.

Oh STFU. I take it back. X should have perma banned your sorry ass.

Pep the best manager in the world.

Get the fuck outta here you miserable fool.

 

[Xperd]

Allegri will extend his contract with Juventus until 2018 with an option for another year on Monday or Tuesday. He'll earn €5m/yr. [Gds]

Totally deserves the raise.

 

[s4tch]

moggi on allegri:
http://www.tuttojuve.com/primo-pian...ve-c-e-un-uomo-vincente-e-uno-perdente-280954

"there was a winner, guardiola, and a loser, allegri. sorry to say, but it's true"

please discuss.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

great news. Get him 1 or 2 more quality players and keep the likes of Pogba/Morata/Dybala all together and he will win us this fucking trophy.

And a big fuck you to all the disloyal, glory-hunting fuckwit "fans" who wanted this guy sacked and were shitting all over him last night.

 

[pablo87]

Max did better than Pep. Juve lost the game cuz Evra's mistake and Subs didn't do their part... Pep was complitely dominate by Max

So my conlusion is rather opposite, it`s Max who do the subs so...

 

[Kopanja]

Come on, we were unlucky and that's it. It's totally reasonable to insert in the crucial game guys who've been everywhere and seen everything. Nobody expected that Evra will go full retarted and Madzu disappears. Just fucking unlucky and that's it. Our team punched about it's weight in Bayern game and punched fucking hard, but ref and luck were not on our side.

 

[LiquidPLP]

You're in desperate need of a reality check. The fact that we were able to hold out as long as we did against them is a miracle. It's naive to think that right now, Bayern aren't a class (or two) above us.

Probably the best striker in the world (Lewa, completely forgetting Muller), some of the best wingers in the world (Robben & Ribery), some of the best midfielders in the world, and probably the best goal keeper in the world. Managed by probably the best manager in the world.

We are over achievers. They had an off-day, thought the job was done, but that still wasn't enough for us. We have maybe 1-2 players in our whole squad that have a shot of being starters in Bayern. Almost every Bayern player would be an insta-starter for us.

Let's not kid ourselves just because we can cruise-control our way to one Scudetto after another by beating the likes of Empoli and Chievo while our "competitors" struggle - Bayern are on another level, and the fact that we made it look like they weren't is an achievement that should not be scoffed at.

Lol, dude you're exaggerating too much now. I myself think that Bayern is superior to us (still) but you should be speaking exactly the opposite. Despite the collapse we had in Munich which is very bad, we have a lot of positives to take out from the tie this time. We fucked it up in Turin but we managed to fight back against Bayern that is only second to Barca. We also shook them at their turf, executing Allegri's game plan perfectly for 60-70 minutes. We collapsed, fucked up badly but there are still positives.
Last time we played them (under Conte) we were left with no positives out of the tie whatsoever! We closed the gap on them and that's another important thing.

Allegri will extend his contract with Juventus until 2018 with an option for another year on Monday or Tuesday. He'll earn €5m/yr. [Gds]

Totally deserves the raise.

Agreed. Allegri is the best Italian coach right now, only second to Ancelotti (for some it's debatable). Conte would be above Allegri if he wasn't such a stubborn mule but that's none of our business for now. Maybe some EPL will teach him something new.

Last season we were almost perfect under Allegri, the double + CL final, before the season started nobody was even dreaming of something like that. This season he did even better IMO, rebuilding from the disaster start, after so many changes in the team with so many kids stepping in. If he wins the double again this season I'll have no questions to ask tbh.

moggi on allegri:
http://www.tuttojuve.com/primo-pian...ve-c-e-un-uomo-vincente-e-uno-perdente-280954

"there was a winner, guardiola, and a loser, allegri. sorry to say, but it's true"

please discuss.

LOL, Moggi should just shut the fuck up. The guy is commenting on coaches while he had Capello leading his Juve which turned out much worse than it is under Allegri, while Capello had a much better squad. Funny to hear from him now when Allegri works on a much smaller budget in comparison to Capello's. Moggi is a Galliani type of dinosaur these days, he simply has lost it.

Guardiola got the upper hand in the end thanks to his bench options which turned the tie around.

 

[pablo87]

Come on, we were unlucky and that's it. It's totally reasonable to insert in the crucial game guys who've been everywhere and seen everything. Nobody expected that Evra will go full retarted and Madzu disappears. Just $#@!ing unlucky and that's it. Our team punched about it's weight in Bayern game and punched $#@!ing hard, but ref and luck were not on our side.

After Morata was subbed we disappeard from the pitch. Thats why a blame Allegri a little bit.

 

[Kopanja]

After Morata was subbed we disappeard from the pitch. Thats why a blame Allegri a little bit.

Yes, because subs didn't work and physically we gave everything before with pressing and running (god damn, we scored 3 goals against Bayern on their pitch, has something like that happened before?). Mandzu failed, why? I don't know. I am not sure someone knows. The same with Evra. Logically it was totally reasonable to make such subs.

 

[LiquidPLP]

After Morata was subbed we disappeard from the pitch.

That's because Morata is capable of running with the ball at his feet at full pace. They were aware of that and after his run when we scored the second they gained even more respect. Mandzukic can't beat a man ta save his life, he's simply a different kind of forward. Getting Morata off was probably the biggest mistake Allegri made in the game. In those circumstances even a dead tired Morata made more sense than fresh Mandzukic.

This situation just prove how important is to keep a proper shape on the pitch. Thanks to Morata who was out there alone we weren't flat and it prevented Bayern from moving more players forward. Once Mandzukic came the danger was gone a they started to press much higher. From that moment it was only a matter of time for us to concede.

 

[pablo87]

That's because Morata is capable of running with the ball at his feet at full pace. They were aware of that and after his run when we scored the second they gained even more respect. Mandzukic can't beat a man ta save his life, he's simply a different kind of forward. Getting Morata off was probably the biggest mistake Allegri made in the game. In those circumstances even a dead tired Morata made more sense than fresh Mandzukic.

This situation just prove how important is to keep a proper shape on the pitch. Thanks to Morata who was out there alone we weren't flat and it prevented Bayern from moving more players forward. Once Mandzukic came the danger was gone a they started to press much higher. From that moment it was only a matter of time for us to concede.

Exactly, and thats what Allegri should predict in my opinion.

 

[kao_ray]

moggi on allegri:
http://www.tuttojuve.com/primo-pian...ve-c-e-un-uomo-vincente-e-uno-perdente-280954

"there was a winner, guardiola, and a loser, allegri. sorry to say, but it's true"

please discuss.

I love Moggi but he said before the game that we already had lost. Obviously the guy is too old and his brain is farting a lot.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Moggi hasn't been relevant in years. He is best ignored when it comes to football these days, he's absolutely clueless. He seems very bitter towards Juve and it shows in his articles.

 

[Big Bang]

Lol, dude you're exaggerating too much now. I myself think that Bayern is superior to us (still) but you should be speaking exactly the opposite. Despite the collapse we had in Munich which is very bad, we have a lot of positives to take out from the tie this time. We $#@!ed it up in Turin but we managed to fight back against Bayern that is only second to Barca. We also shook them at their turf, executing Allegri's game plan perfectly for 60-70 minutes. We collapsed, $#@!ed up badly but there are still positives.
Last time we played them (under Conte) we were left with no positives out of the tie whatsoever! We closed the gap on them and that's another important thing.

I agree. We did well against a team that is vastly superior both in starting XI and even more so on the bench. We can take many positives from this. Which is why when someone says something like:

Still don't get it, how we managed to do $#@! all for 75minutes against a team who had only ONE CB in Kimmich on the field. While conceding 4 in the process.

Guardiola might be annoying and all but he pwned Allegri.

I tell them they need a reality check.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Moggi is the real loser when hes bitching about Juve every chance he gets

 

[Vlad]

Bayern superior to Juve? I'll be damned.