Martin Cáceres (17 Viewers)

[Firestarter]

you must understand that caceres is still young, he will learn...zebina is a lost cause, im sure he will learn from this and until he does i dont want him playing as a cb as it is too large a risk, one thing to give away a free kick on the wing compared to a penalty in the middle of the box.

I don't really agree with that, if we're going to spend the amount in his clause there are numerous other better options available, we can't afford to take a chance with that.

 

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[Salvo]

as i said, 10ml no way, if it were lowered id consider, all depending on how he develops by the end of the season.

 

[Red]

10 mil no way, rafinha can come for that price but if he does learn by the end of the season id consider.

id take him for about 6-7 now though, thing is, the guy ran all game and ahd to cover sali's ass so many times so the rashness which runs through him normally plus the fatigue mixed made it a combination that was going to bring a certain red.

He didn't run all game, because he got a stupid red card.


Why are you making excuses for this guy?

He doesn't have a brain and has shown no sign at all of improving in the time he has been with Juve.

 

[Salvo]

He didn't run all game, because he got a stupid red card.


Why are you making excuses for this guy?

He doesn't have a brain and has shown no sign at all of improving in the time he has been with Juve.

all game up until his sending off?

why am i defending him? he has been one of our best players in this terrible period!

he has improved, greatly to say he hasnt is very stupid, he has given us some somewhat stability in that right back position. As for the rashness, hopefully he will learn.

 

[Red]

What has he improved since he arrived?

He is still good going forward, he still makes lots of stupid decisions every game.

 

[only-juve]

he has improved, greatly to say he hasnt is very stupid, he has given us some somewhat stability in that right back position. As for the rashness, hopefully he will learn.

That is simply not true, sorry. Every single time the ball goes to someone in he's side i just feel something horrible will happen. That has been happening since day one he arrived.

Again like i've said, people here rate him because he gives he's all and run he's ass off. Ironically he reminds me of a certain left back who just left to germany but with better crosses and worse defending

 

[JuveJay]

Stupid tackle, but he plays like that and risks a second yellow quite often.

 

[Salvo]

coem one guys, he has improved quite a bit, he didnt play bad this game, just two rash decisions, he isnt maicon, but he has improved and for me is our best choice as RB, thats how i see it anyway.

 

[Red]

If you are a defender, you cannot afford to make two significant mistakes per game, and he makes at least two significant errors per game.

 

[Ken]

Most people 'rate' him because he's a very likeable player. He plays with his heart, gives his all.

End of the day, if you're building a squad that's supposed to compete for the Scudetto and CL, you can't have someone who is so poor at decision-making in your defence. Too much of a liability in the end.

True, he brings us something going forward, which is much needed since our coach is too scared to play with a team that will be able to create anything, but he'll have to mature really damn quickly in order for us to pay the 12m for him.

He has been improving though, no denying that imo.

 

[Nicholas]

Most people 'rate' him because he's a very likeable player. He plays with his heart, gives his all.

End of the day, if you're building a squad that's supposed to compete for the Scudetto and CL, you can't have someone who is so poor at decision-making in your defence. Too much of a liability in the end.

True, he brings us something going forward, which is much needed since our coach is too scared to play with a team that will be able to create anything, but he'll have to mature really damn quickly in order for us to pay the 12m for him.

He has been improving though, no denying that imo.

This also applies to alot of players on our books and players who are passed it.

 

[Ken]

This also applies to alot of players on our books and players who are passed it.

It does, more players have to go. But since it's the Cáceres thread, I thought...

 

[Salvo]

im not saying we should keep the guy for sure, it depends on how he improves, if he does (he already has though, for me).

theres no way i would pay 10ml for him how he is right now, but for now he is our best choice at rb IMO with the formation we are playing.

if we were to play 4-2-3-1 i wouldnt mind grygera playing as he is more defensive and we wouldnt need his forward runs as much.

 

[JuveJay]

Completely true. He has been one of our better players for a few months now, made Zebina/Grygera look awful.

And this player actually gives a shit, which is a millions times better than what you could say for a lot of our squad.

Or at least appears to, probably just his style and mentality from himself as a person. It's not like he is a Juve fan, like most of the team, he just has a committed style.

 

[only-juve]

It does, more players have to go. But since it's the Cáceres thread, I thought...

And since we haven't signed him yet, and honetly i really doubt such players will improve in the future.

 

[Ken]

And since we haven't signed him yet, and honetly i really doubt such players will improve in the future.

I don't believe we'll be able to calm his Uruguayan killer mentality down either if I'm honest.

 

[Enron]

I don't believe we'll be able to calm his Uruguayan killer mentality down either if I'm honest.

You mean The Panic?

 

[Bianconero81]

Well, technically we need a new RB, CB, LB, CM, SS, and Forward then, depending on what formation we are going to play.

Oh wait...... Hold on.....

Wrong thread

 

[Ken]

You mean The Panic?

Whatever it is that hits the switch in his head and makes him storm at the ball / a player like a bull towards a red carpet.

 

[Salvo]

monterdation...thats what its called.