Martin Cáceres (8 Viewers)

[only-juve]

I agree with Caceres + Cash = Poulsen swoop!
Caceres is a very good player to be 4th option in defense after Chiellini, Canna and Legro!

Really doubt that, infact it would never happen IMO. The guy was brought by barca for around 16 mil and he's still pretty young so no way they're giving us cash plus him for poulsen it might be the other way around though.

And for that much $$ i really doubt he'd be our 4th choice in the team (he'd be our most expensive defender).

I've seen him a couple of times with Uruguay and got to say, am not impressed (decent but not great)....

 

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[ESS-Juventino]

Really doubt that, infact it would never happen IMO. The guy was brought by barca for around 16 mil and he's still pretty young so no way they're giving us cash plus him for poulsen it might be the other way around though.

And for that much $$ i really doubt he'd be our 4th choice in the team (he'd be our most expensive defender).

I've seen him a couple of times with Uruguay and got to say, am not impressed (decent but not great)....

It seems Poulsen's price in market is more than Caceres base on reports! So if we want to exchange directly, then Barca should give us difference!

And I don't think Caseres will start matches ahead of Chiellini, Canna and Legro if he joins Juve!

We need a defender who can also play in RB if needed and we don't need Poulsen anymore after Melo arrival, so exchanging him with young defender like Caseres would be a good idea, IMO!

I think we just need another young CB and with Chiellini, Canna, Legro, Ariaudo and new guy, it will be OK and we'll finish in summer market!

 

[jonathantaylor]

I just ran across this article

http://fcbtransfers.blogspot.com/2009/07/caceres-to-juventus-in-10-days.html

I think he will be brought in to cover for Grygera. He is versatile and can play any position at the back which I really like but if he costs too much I dont like it. Barca bought him for 16m last year and slapped a 50m buyout clause on him if I'm not mistaken.

Oh, does anyone know the probability of Grygera making the move to Greece? I've heard rumors, but we all know rumors are rumors.

 

[Hust]

I just don't see what the problem is giving Ariaudo chance at the 4th back position? Let the kid get some games already, why spend huge amounts on salary or spend cash on a player to be 4th? We have Ariaudo, he commands small wages, no transfer fee and already has a contract with Juventus. The only CB I would be ok with signing is Santacroce because he is more versatile and seems to be much cheaper.

Let us sell Poulsen, use the money to invest in Santacroce, sell Grygera and use that money plus whatever we have left from Poulsen's sale and invest in a new RB and maybe LB (some young bloods)

 

[Hust]

I just ran across this article

http://fcbtransfers.blogspot.com/2009/07/caceres-to-juventus-in-10-days.html

I think he will be brought in to cover for Grygera. He is versatile and can play any position at the back which I really like but if he costs too much I dont like it. Barca bought him for 16m last year and slapped a 50m buyout clause on him if I'm not mistaken.

Oh, does anyone know the probability of Grygera making the move to Greece? I've heard rumors, but we all know rumors are rumors.

:edit: my other post:

If he costs us nearly nothing and is versatile then perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea if he can play across the backline. I still think the more economical thing to do is buy Santa and keep Ariaudo

OR

We could sell Poulsen and get this guy, sell Grygera and get Santacroce. Then we have both.

 

[Bjerknes]

I wouldn't really mind Cacares. He's young and does have a lot of skill at the back, even though he didn't show it last season.

For a good price or part exchange with Poulsen, I say go for it.

 

[Hust]

Then sell Grygera for Santacroce? (after Cacares)

Or keep Grygera and get Santacroce anyways?

 

[Bjerknes]

The problem is, Santa isn't natural at right-back.

 

[RavaneVialli]

Then sell Grygera for Santacroce? (after Cacares)

Or keep Grygera and get Santacroce anyways?

No need to buy sixth CB then.

 

[Hust]

True, but perhaps he could learn? It is not like we would need him all the time at RB. Besides, I am not a keen admirer of Legro. Chiellini, Santa, Canna, Ariaudo and Cacares sounds pretty good to me for CBs as Legro and Canna will be finished soon and that would give enough time for Cacares, Ariaudo and Santa to improve.

 

[Hust]

No need to buy sixth CB then.

You beat me to my explanation. Legro is at best a 4th choice IMO. Just good backup, not a starter. Canna has maybe a year left and Legro is getting older. Santa/Ariaudo/Cacares are young. Santa/Cacacres seem to be versatile.

 

[RavaneVialli]

Yes, but still it's surplus to reqiurements to have Chiellini, Cannavaro, Legro, Ariaudo, Caceres nad Santacroce at the same time. Caceres and Santacroce are not proper fullbacks and the second of them or someone else (and even better: Zapata, Bocchetti) we can get when Cannavaro retires, hopefully next summer.

 

[Hust]

If we spend the money like we did this year for PROPER CBs then yes, lets wait. But if we get a good deal on Santa/Cacares then perhaps is best to bolster up a year in advance. So when Coppa/easy league games come along we can rest Canna/Chiellini for the big games and CL. We had too many injuries last year and i HATED a Grygera-legro-mellberg-molinaro backline....never again should we let that happen.

 

[RavaneVialli]

Then it would be dumb to let Ariaudo rot in the stands as a sixth choice CB. If we were to buy two young central defenders this season, he should have been "loaned out to Siena" already. And then again, it would be dumb to buy two young CB instead of one CB that we need and a proper right-back.

 

[JBF]

I think our priority now should be to secure a new LB as in Grosso who we could get in a reasonable price since Lyon already bought themselves a new one in Aly Cissocko and then to buy a lad who have the quality to play in various positions and Santacroce have those....what is more, Ferrara has faith in this guy,and i think he is the new Montero

 

[Hust]

Then it would be dumb to let Ariaudo rot in the stands as a sixth choice CB. If we were to buy two young central defenders this season, he should have been "loaned out to Siena" already. And then again, it would be dumb to buy two young CB instead of one CB that we need and a proper right-back.

Tbh I am not sure what "proper right backs" we can get that are available and would give us the step up in quality we need. Players can transfer into new positions.

 

[Lucky Luke]

I think he will be brought in to cover for Grygera. He is versaOh, does anyone know the probability of Grygera making the move to Greece? I've heard rumors, but we all know rumors are rumors.

:xfinger: :xfinger: nothing new yet...but panathinaikos is looking for a RB,they got the $$ but zdenek snubbs greece.

Then sell Grygera for Santacroce? (after Cacares)

Or keep Grygera and get Santacroce anyways?

check this out bro
both caceres and santacroce are natural CBs but can play as RB..something like Olof.
grygera is natural DR but he can also play CB and DL.
if we sell him in order to get to DC(DRs) we will end up only with Zebina as pure DR.

 

[Hust]

:xfinger: :xfinger: nothing new yet...but panathinaikos is looking for a RB,they got the $$ but zdenek snubbs greece.


check this out bro
both caceres and santacroce are natural CBs but can play as RB..something like Olof.
grygera is natural DR but he can also play CB and DL.
if we sell him in order to get to DC(DRs) we will end up only with Zebina as pure DR.

Then who would be a good backup or starter for right back? I am confident for Zebina but not many others share that enthusiasm. So, with that in mind who could we get as a sub for Z and is a pure RB or take a chance on a natural CB that can play Rb as well. I like versatility personally. Defenders can be transformed into new roles.

 

[Lucky Luke]

Then who would be a good backup or starter for right back? I am confident for Zebina but not many others share that enthusiasm. So, with that in mind who could we get as a sub for Z and is a pure RB or take a chance on a natural CB that can play Rb as well. I like versatility personally. Defenders can be transformed into new roles.

Zebina and Grygera DRs
Salihamizic + Santacroce as cover in tha position.
4 options!
im not totally satisfied but...who to come then?

 

[Mark]

We can't really get a "cheap" substantial upgrade. You could get better at going forward and crossing but would lose a lot defensively.