Mario Mandžukić (30 Viewers)

[Osman]

Precisely. If they don't honor their contracts, you can do fuck all about it. If a government is behind your contract, that is usually not a good thing in terms of being able to actually enforce the terms of that contract. I get your point, today it looks like it is sure money. But who knows what they decide in two years time.

This is wishful thinking, IMO they will become a disturbing force to draw talent from Europe over the next 5 years (much more then retire home MLS, Russia, Gulf states ever were put together). And no, the fact this comes from the highest means its not unreliable, especially as authoritarian machinery like them. They really dont care about the money and are more about being seen as the big dogs, and eventually get a WC hosting gig, its a detailed ambition.

And they have potential to recoup some of this insane money long term it if they make their huge domestic market base interested in football big time. Also they just dont want to go out on foreigners alone, or they wouldnt have made the restriction of only 3 foreigners per team. They spending billions on infrastructure and youth development (quite naive to want to speed things up this quickly, but it will eventually bear some fruit with amount of coaching talent know how they import), they massively increased their attendance and domestic broadcast ratings etc. All indications for this NOT being something they will abandon on a whim. They even bought European clubs or invest heavily in (in City's case), with the express intention to learn how to build up successful clubs from the ground up.

 

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[Badass J Elkann]

You'd think the chinese government would be better off backing that money into their education and health systems instead

 

[Fr3sh]

Up up China!!!
Bring football back to its roots!
Did u know the Chinese invented football, and not the fraudulent Brits. The Chinese used to play with a stuffed pig stomach and would play a game of shaoling football 1000+ niggas at the same time. Serious shit.

 

[Seven]

This is wishful thinking, IMO they will become a disturbing force to draw talent from Europe over the next 5 years (much more then retire home MLS, Russia, Gulf states ever were put together). And no, the fact this comes from the highest means its not unreliable, especially as authoritarian machinery like them. They really dont care about the money and are more about being seen as the big dogs, and eventually get a WC hosting gig, its a detailed ambition.

And they have potential to recoup some of this insane money long term it if they make their huge domestic market base interested in football big time. Also they just dont want to go out on foreigners alone, or they wouldnt have made the restriction of only 3 foreigners per team. They spending billions on infrastructure and youth development (quite naive to want to speed things up this quickly, but it will eventually bear some fruit with amount of coaching talent know how they import), they massively increased their attendance and domestic broadcast ratings etc. All indications for this NOT being something they will abandon on a whim. They even bought European clubs or invest heavily in (in City's case), with the express intention to learn how to build up successful clubs from the ground up.

Then it's something they're doing very poorly. The entire point of UEFA's financial fair play is that clubs have to be built more slowly. I know the UEFA are portraying it as if they care about the clubs, but they care far more about the brand. If you'd allow billionaires to pump hundreds of millions into PSG, but leave on a whim, you'd risk destroying the Champions League. To have stability, you need time. And the UEFA knows that.

Besides, you can overpay in order to boost your league or improve your homegrown players through the presence of stellar athletes. But we're talking about guys like Oscar and Witsel. On the one hand they're hardly Messi or Ronaldo, not even Lampard or Pirlo tbh, on the other hand they won't bring an instant improvement to the quality of the game either.

 

[Fr3sh]

You'd think the chinese government would be better off backing that money into their education and health systems instead

Go talk to one of your uncle's maybe he can sneak you into some management position.

If I were working in Beppe's position in a Chinese club

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Then it's something they're doing very poorly. The entire point of UEFA's financial fair play is that clubs have to be built more slowly. I know the UEFA are portraying it as if they care about the clubs, but they care far more about the brand. If you'd allow billionaires to pump hundreds of millions into PSG, but leave on a whim, you'd risk destroying the Champions League. To have stability, you need time. And the UEFA knows that.

Besides, you can overpay in order to boost your league or improve your homegrown players through the presence of stellar athletes. But we're talking about guys like Oscar and Witsel. On the one hand they're hardly Messi or Ronaldo, not even Lampard or Pirlo tbh, on the other hand they won't bring an instant improvement to the quality of the game either.

Soon China will be a greater footballing nation then Belgium. You know it.

 

[Xperd]

It already is

 

[Bjerknes]

China has the money, sure. But when you're put in a mobile death van after missing a penalty against Dangzhou FC, you'll probably regret the huge contract.

 

[Osman]

They want notoriety and attention first to attract more talent, and they have been working on improving the infrastructure too. And the domestic player quality is fairly weak, so getting established good professionals is huge improvement short term (Oscar is a quality player, Witsel decent, what I find more laughable is giving Pelle 6th highest salary in the world...), but also its primarly about showing China is a acceptable or more desireable destination with each purchase they make. They are playing catch up so they dont care for building things slow right now.


I think main corious thing for me is how these artificial chinese club will be performing in Asia champions league, I mean you will be having some real quality players that werent in that competition before. Tho since the foreign limit is so strict, it will be kinda diluted. Tho they have less restriction on getting foreign asian federation players, so corious if they will be getting the better players from the continent too.

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China has the money, sure. But when you're put in a mobile death van after missing a penalty against Dangzhou FC, you'll probably regret the huge contract.

This aint no North Korea, even if its funny.

 

[Fr3sh]

It already is

China numba won!!

@zizinho is I were part of management of a Chinese club I'd make the kits exactly like Goku's clothing and # at the back. Blue boots too. Goalkeeper is wearing Piccolo's shit, cap included.

Imagine all the fans I'd have with this amazing PR move! Not even Beppe would be able to top that!

 

[Seven]

They want notoriety and attention first to attract more talent, and they have been working on improving the infrastructure too. And the domestic player quality is fairly weak, so getting established good professionals is huge improvement short term (Oscar is a quality player, Witsel decent, what I find more laughable is giving Pelle 6th highest salary in the world...), but also its primarly about showing China is a acceptable or more desireable destination with each purchase they make. They are playing catch up so they dont care for building things slow right now.

It'll prove unsuccessful imo. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it can't be done, building a great league out of nowhere, but it is very difficult and requires probably at least 10 years. Most projects, especially when they are about sport, get abolished long before that.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

It'll prove unsuccessful imo. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it can't be done, building a great league out of nowhere, but it is very difficult and requires probably at least 10 years. Most projects, especially when they are about sport, get abolished long before that.

The fact that the league restricts you to fielding 3 non-chinese players in league matches already makes this 'grand' free spending project a failure

 

[Fr3sh]

The fact that the league restricts you to fielding 3 non-chinese players in league matches already makes this 'grand' free spending project a failure

China will rise and once it has regained it's might, it will remember the treacherous words of its bastard son.

 

[zizinho]

China numba won!!

@zizinho is I were part of management of a Chinese club I'd make the kits exactly like Goku's clothing and # at the back. Blue boots too. Goalkeeper is wearing Piccolo's shit, cap included.

Imagine all the fans I'd have with this amazing PR move! Not even Beppe would be able to top that!

Dont forget changing the club badge to this beauty

Imagine the keeper wearing the Piccolo cape and hat too, then taking it off to stop a PK. You'd earn millions in marketing alone

 

[Fr3sh]

Dont forget changing the club badge to this beauty

Imagine the keeper wearing the Piccolo cape and hat too, then taking it off to stop a PK. You'd earn millions in marketing alone

Broo they don't even understand!!!

 

[DAiDEViL]

Stop touching your piccolo.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

China will rise and once it has regained it's might, it will remember the treacherous words of its bastard son.

Well it only goes who show how dumb they can be... You have 3 non chinese slots with near infinite amounts of money so what do you do?? Throw money at signing Axel fucking witsel...

it's actually quite funny when you think about it

 

[Gep]

It'll prove unsuccessful imo. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it can't be done, building a great league out of nowhere, but it is very difficult and requires probably at least 10 years. Most projects, especially when they are about sport, get abolished long before that.

Not even in 10yrs will you see me go home excited to watch a game in the Chinese league. Their money will before then be pumped into buying football clubs in England.

 

[Fr3sh]

Stop touching your piccolo.

Piccolo can stretch

 

[Osman]

It'll prove unsuccessful imo. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it can't be done, building a great league out of nowhere, but it is very difficult and requires probably at least 10 years. Most projects, especially when they are about sport, get abolished long before that.

I dont think it will become a top successful league, but it will become an annoying threat to lose quality players too. I mainly replied to you to say I disagree with your notion of being unreliable to pay out these contracts in 2 years or whatever. We will stop saying this or that player is unambitious hack blabla, and it will become more normal for quality players to go for insane money more steadily.

 

[Klin]

You'd think the chinese government would be better off backing that money into their education and health systems instead

And hockey.