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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
80m makes a huge difference

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4m is not 20m.

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Lol he would make 5 times that. It's a crazy amount of money
If you already have 30 it doesn't. It's on the same level. You're very rich, just not Bill Gates rich. And then we're talking billions, not millions.

If you already have 30, 80m means fuck all.
 

Basel93

Senior Member
Dec 24, 2014
1,572
If you already have 30 it doesn't. It's on the same level. You're very rich, just not Bill Gates rich. And then we're talking billions, not millions.

If you already have 30, 80m means fuck all.
Thats more than double what you have/had, of course it means shit.

Being rich is a relative term, 4m wage is a huge bump to what we would be earning annually, similarly 20m annually is a shitload more than 4m and obviously a tempting offer.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
If you already have 30 it doesn't. It's on the same level. You're very rich, just not Bill Gates rich. And then we're talking billions, not millions.

If you already have 30, 80m means fuck all.
' a bigger boat' ? :D

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Any sane player would turn down the offer if he could go to a european giant. They'd wait till their career is done and then go there for even more money


Is Witsel the second player after giovinco that quit top football before his prime to move abroad for millions ?
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
11,045
Thats more than double what you have/had, of course it means shit.

Being rich is a relative term, 4m wage is a huge bump to what we would be earning annually, similarly 20m annually is a shitload more than 4m and obviously a tempting offer.
I agree. Similarly a person making 5 dollars a day in some poor country would think that it doesn't matter whether you make 4000 eur per month or 20 000 eur, but of course it matters
 
Jun 6, 2015
11,391
All this money talk is pointless. For some it might make a difference and for others it won't. It all depends on your lifestyle and what you think you need to own.

For people who are content with pretty "normal rich" life and who have sufficient financial understanding the difference between having €20M or €80M is very small. You would most likely still make more than you spend each year only by investing most of the money. Then on the other hand if we have a person who has no clue about finances and he tries to emulate the lifestyle of some Hollywood stars buying yachts and sports cars it will help that dude for a few years. Eventually he's going to be broke though and will need to start selling his assets.

If you want to be financially erratic you will need huge amounts of money to live your life. Many people always find a way of overspending. The amount of over-indebted people is crazy nowadays and there are many that do make a shitload of money included in that category.
 

fredrik

Senior Member
Aug 7, 2011
7,239
I agree. Similarly a person making 5 dollars a day in some poor country would think that it doesn't matter whether you make 4000 eur per month or 20 000 eur, but of course it matters
As the numbers gets higher it matters alot less, and should become insignificante at very high rates. The lifestyle wont change if a person has 10 billion or 50 billion in the bank.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
I agree. Similarly a person making 5 dollars a day in some poor country would think that it doesn't matter whether you make 4000 eur per month or 20 000 eur, but of course it matters
Thats more than double what you have/had, of course it means shit.

Being rich is a relative term, 4m wage is a huge bump to what we would be earning annually, similarly 20m annually is a shitload more than 4m and obviously a tempting offer.

Some of you guys are seriously dense. When you already have 30m €, you have to think in different orders of magnitude. The question is if having 80m instead of 30m is going to be able to be represent a significant change in lifestyle for you. The answer is no. You can buy a slightly bigger yacht, a couple of houses more and some extra cars, but it means nothing. You still can't buy a private jet or your own professional sports team. Like I said, the difference in lifestyle will be small.

For most players more money also means more status. In this case it is obviously the other way around. Witsel will now be seen as a money grabbing whore and he will be much less of a football player after 2 years in China.




' a bigger boat' ? :D

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Any sane player would turn down the offer if he could go to a european giant. They'd wait till their career is done and then go there for even more money


Is Witsel the second player after giovinco that quit top football before his prime to move abroad for millions ?

Yup. A bigger boat is just about the only difference.

Oh, and the fact that the brand Witsel will be worthless by the end of it.

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All this money talk is pointless. For some it might make a difference and for others it won't. It all depends on your lifestyle and what you think you need to own.

For people who are content with pretty "normal rich" life and who have sufficient financial understanding the difference between having €20M or €80M is very small. You would most likely still make more than you spend each year only by investing most of the money. Then on the other hand if we have a person who has no clue about finances and he tries to emulate the lifestyle of some Hollywood stars buying yachts and sports cars it will help that dude for a few years. Eventually he's going to be broke though and will need to start selling his assets.

If you want to be financially erratic you will need huge amounts of money to live your life. Many people always find a way of overspending. The amount of over-indebted people is crazy nowadays and there are many that do make a shitload of money included in that category.
In your second scenario it still means nothing. You'll end up broke anyway.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
its actually not. What seven means is the following


The increased options dramatically reduce when increasing pay.


At 4 million/year, you can do fuck all you want. At 18 million per year, nothing changes. You buy a pagani instead of a ferrari. Your yacht is a bit longer. Your vacations are a bit more decadent.


500 euro's a month : life is hard, expensive, cant do shit
1000 euro's a month : significant increased options, able to selfsustain without unmost penny pinching, but nothing fancy
1500 euro's a month : more options, but the increase is much lower then 500 ->1000. You can self sustain and go on holydays sometimes. Nothing too much tho
2500 euro's a month. Basically, you have a house, a car, money to spend,vacations, its a similar increase in options when comparing 1000-1500

5000 euro's a month. The fucking same, except all your options get a bit more luxurious

15 000 euro's a month. You can perhaps an option or two. extra house. small boat. Same as 5000 but your options can be more expensive

50 000 euro's a month. You basically have everything

500 000 euro's a month. what changes ?

5 000 000 euro's a month. what changes ?


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Basel93

Senior Member
Dec 24, 2014
1,572
Some of you guys are seriously dense. When you already have 30m €, you have to think in different orders of magnitude. The question is if having 80m instead of 30m is going to be able to be represent a significant change in lifestyle for you. The answer is no. You can buy a slightly bigger yacht, a couple of houses more and some extra cars, but it means nothing. You still can't buy a private jet or your own professional sports team. Like I said, the difference in lifestyle will be small.

For most players more money also means more status. In this case it is obviously the other way around. Witsel will now be seen as a money grabbing whore and he will be much less of a football player after 2 years in China.







Yup. A bigger boat is just about the only difference.

Oh, and the fact that the brand Witsel will be worthless by the end of it.

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In your second scenario it still means nothing. You'll end up broke anyway.
You call people dense yet you clearly miss the point...
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Some of you guys are seriously dense. When you already have 30m €, you have to think in different orders of magnitude. The question is if having 80m instead of 30m is going to be able to be represent a significant change in lifestyle for you. The answer is no. You can buy a slightly bigger yacht, a couple of houses more and some extra cars, but it means nothing. You still can't buy a private jet or your own professional sports team. Like I said, the difference in lifestyle will be small.

For most players more money also means more status. In this case it is obviously the other way around. Witsel will now be seen as a money grabbing whore and he will be much less of a football player after 2 years in China.







Yup. A bigger boat is just about the only difference.

Oh, and the fact that the brand Witsel will be worthless by the end of it.

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In your second scenario it still means nothing. You'll end up broke anyway.
This is what i dont get.

Xavi and the likes most definatly had these offers from qatar during their entire career. But they said no. When they were finished at top level, the offer had only become bigger cause now the legend comes by.


And tbh i kinda like it, when players who's career at top level is over, go to developping country's (footballwise) to earn a great last paycheck, whilst beeing able to create some magic.


I mean, dont we all loved seeing alex score amazing curlers in australia or pirlo magic in the us ?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
its actually not. What seven means is the following


The increased options dramatically reduce when increasing pay.


At 4 million/year, you can do fuck all you want. At 18 million per year, nothing changes. You buy a pagani instead of a ferrari. Your yacht is a bit longer. Your vacations are a bit more decadent.


500 euro's a month : life is hard, expensive, cant do shit
1000 euro's a month : significant increased options, able to selfsustain without unmost penny pinching, but nothing fancy
1500 euro's a month : more options, but the increase is much lower then 500 ->1000. You can self sustain and go on holydays sometimes. Nothing too much tho
2500 euro's a month. Basically, you have a house, a car, money to spend,vacations, its a similar increase in options when comparing 1000-1500

5000 euro's a month. The fucking same, except all your options get a bit more luxurious

15 000 euro's a month. You can perhaps an option or two. extra house. small boat. Same as 5000 but your options can be more expensive

50 000 euro's a month. You basically have everything

500 000 euro's a month. what changes ?

5 000 000 euro's a month. what changes ?


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Exactly.

When you reach a certain point, a change in lifestyle will only be possible if the difference is truly dramatic. Let's say they offer Witsel 2 billion euros. I'd say yes, that is quite the difference. He could buy a private jet, buy some football team or hell, maybe even fund medical research.

But 80m instead of 30m? Makes no difference at all.
 

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