Mario Mandžukić (23 Viewers)

[Lion]

not Higuain?

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i guess its not that hard marking a player that runs less than Buffon :sarcasm:

I hope you get banned soon. your trolling is the worst on here

 

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[zizinho]

He is a classical bomber, so of course he's gonna depend on getting service for the most part. But he has also created several goals for himself. If you can't acknowledge that, then you have selective memory.

As for being invisible against well organized teams, I disagree with that wholeheartedly; he may not have always gotten on the scoresheet, but when was he ever invisible? Dude plays with grinta, he comes deep to collect passes, he distributes, and he causes defenses all sorts of problems with his movement.

Real and Barcelona. basically the biggest 5 games we had last 2 seasons. all you listed is what any good CF has to do, but Higuain often does not, especially in the biggest games. and im not talking about score sheet either, he sometimes manages to score after playing a bad game, so not all games he scored in were good either. he comes deep to get the ball, tries to dribble the ball for no good reason (has 2-3 passing options), loses the ball. how often have we seen this last 2 years? doesent relieve pressure off the midfield when we are pressed, and no, he doesnt cause problems with his movement, thats exactly the issue here. doesent create space for Dybala, doesent create space for himself, doesent provide a long ball target, isnt quick/fast and technical enough to come out wide and create from there, cant hold the ball with his back to the goal... hes a an ancient type of player and im glad we are moving away from him

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I hope you get banned soon. your trolling is the worst on here

maybe i should open a Pogba transfer thread?

 

[Lion]

do it. don't let your dreams be dreams

 

[zizinho]

But the goals against Spal, Frosinone etc though

im gonna miss those when he joins Chelsea

 

[Jem83]

Real and Barcelona. basically the biggest 5 games we had last 2 seasons. all you listed is what any good CF has to do, but Higuain often does not, especially in the biggest games. and im not talking about score sheet either, he sometimes manages to score after playing a bad game, so not all games he scored in were good either. he comes deep to get the ball, tries to dribble the ball for no good reason (has 2-3 passing options), loses the ball. how often have we seen this last 2 years? doesent relieve pressure off the midfield when we are pressed, and no, he doesnt cause problems with his movement, thats exactly the issue here. doesent create space for Dybala, doesent create space for himself, doesent provide a long ball target, isnt quick/fast and technical enough to come out wide and create from there, cant hold the ball with his back to the goal... hes a an ancient type of player and im glad we are moving away from him

You basically just described a Serie-B level player there. And that's been my issue with your posts aimed against Higuain all along; the cringeworthy exaggeration.

We will agree to disagree when it comes to this player, but it provoked me that you even tried to belittle his 3-2 goal against Inter which was a scudetto defining moment.

Dybala's cross was indeed excellent and the defending left something to be desired, but his movement and anticipation was excellent there and he calmly placed it - which is never a given when there's so much at stake.

Let me tell you, it wasn't a coincidence that he of all people popped up at that moment. He's a champion, one of our most prolific goalscorers of recent times. You show him absolutely no respect.

 

[zizinho]

You basically just described a Serie-B level player there. And that's been my issue with your posts aimed against Higuain all along; the cringeworthy exaggeration.

We will agree to disagree when it comes to this player, but it provoked me that you even tried to belittle his 3-2 goal against Inter which was a scudetto defining moment.

Dybala's cross was indeed excellent and the defending left something to be desired, but his movement and anticipation was excellent there and he calmly placed it - which is never a given when there's so much at stake.

Let me tell you, it wasn't a coincidence that he of all people popped up at that moment. He's a champion, one of our most prolific goalscorers of recent times. You show him absolutely no respect.

he headed the ball from 4-5 meters distance, between 2 CBs, without even having to jump. the cross was just perfect, all he had to do was put his head on the ball

 

[edgardavids2608]

Real and Barcelona. basically the biggest 5 games we had last 2 seasons. all you listed is what any good CF has to do, but Higuain often does not, especially in the biggest games. and im not talking about score sheet either, he sometimes manages to score after playing a bad game, so not all games he scored in were good either. he comes deep to get the ball, tries to dribble the ball for no good reason (has 2-3 passing options), loses the ball. how often have we seen this last 2 years? doesent relieve pressure off the midfield when we are pressed, and no, he doesnt cause problems with his movement, thats exactly the issue here. doesent create space for Dybala, doesent create space for himself, doesent provide a long ball target, isnt quick/fast and technical enough to come out wide and create from there, cant hold the ball with his back to the goal... hes a an ancient type of player and im glad we are moving away from him

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maybe i should open a Pogba transfer thread?

Actually I think hes a pretty modern player that excels in the modern 4-3-3. When he played without Dybala he excelled. Unfortunately Dybs is better than him.

 

[Jem83]

he headed the ball from 4-5 meters distance, between 2 CBs, without even having to jump. the cross was just perfect, all he had to do was put his head on the ball

If you look more closely, he was our most active and hungry player in this situation. He had to anticipate it and time his run to perfection. Giving Miranda a slight touch in the back to create space as he begins his run. The cross is tremendous, but Higuain wasn't just sitting idle in the box waiting for it as you claimed.

 

[X Æ A-12]

he headed the ball from 4-5 meters distance, between 2 CBs, without even having to jump. the cross was just perfect, all he had to do was put his head on the ball

How many goals does he have since joining? Isn't his record slightly better than 1 every two games? How many forwards in Juventus history have a record like that?

Even in the CL where he is allegedly useless he has 10 goals and 2 assists in 21 games

 

[pavelnel]

he headed the ball from 4-5 meters distance, between 2 CBs, without even having to jump. the cross was just perfect, all he had to do was put his head on the ball

You must support an English team because your level of delusion is unprecedented on this forum.

 

[Post Ironic]

How many goals does he have since joining? Isn't his record slightly better than 1 every two games? How many forwards in Juventus history have a record like that?

Even in the CL where he is allegedly useless he has 10 goals and 2 assists in 21 games

Meanwhile, our saviour, Dybala scored 1 goal from 33 attempted shots in 8 matches in CL last season. And got a red card that effectively destroyed our chances of getting anything out of the home leg against Madrid.

 

[Klovn]

do it. don't let your dreams be dreams

yesterday you said tomorrow, so just do it. make your dreams come true

 

[zizinho]

If you look more closely, he was our most active and hungry player in this situation. He had to anticipate it and time his run to perfection. Giving Miranda a slight touch in the back to create space as he begins his run. The cross is tremendous, but Higuain wasn't just sitting idle in the box waiting for it as you claimed.

i didnt say he was just waiting for the cross, he made the run and got at the end of it. what i said is he didnt have to out jump anyone, he didnt have to put in much effort other than making the run to get to it. he made the push on Miranda before the cross was even made, Mirarda was right there at the ball but couldnt get to it. Skriniar as well, if he was there half a second earlier. the cross was just that good to fall right into Higuains line of running, it wasnt too high for him to have to jump, it wasnt too low for him to have to volley it. simply perfect

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Actually I think hes a pretty modern player that excels in the modern 4-3-3. When he played without Dybala he excelled. Unfortunately Dybs is better than him.

because neither him or Dybala work much defensively, or do much work offensively either. they arent a good combo either. and what are these games he excelled in that youre talking about? he was without Dybala vs Madrid away, what did he do? my issues with him are deeper than simply the nonfunctional partnership with Dybala

 

[Juliano13]

he headed the ball from 4-5 meters distance, between 2 CBs, without even having to jump. the cross was just perfect, all he had to do was put his head on the ball

To his credit, I'll say he usually messes that up.

 

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Stefan Effenberg: “I never understood why Bayern Munich sold him. Mandzukic is one of the 3 best strikers in the world, as far as I am concerned. He works so hard for the team...He would be worth €200m if he was younger and I’d prefer him 10 times better than Neymar.” [FI]

 

[zizinho]

How many goals does he have since joining? Isn't his record slightly better than 1 every two games? How many forwards in Juventus history have a record like that?

Even in the CL where he is allegedly useless he has 10 goals and 2 assists in 21 games

did his goals improve us as a team? we are pretty much where we were without him despite his goals. he was supposed to be that star player in those big CL games, to drive the team to the next level, and didnt do that

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Meanwhile, our saviour, Dybala scored 1 goal from 33 attempted shots in 8 matches in CL last season. And got a red card that effectively destroyed our chances of getting anything out of the home leg against Madrid.

hey! get your trolling back to the Ronaldo thread

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To his credit, I'll say he usually messes that up.

well, he did mess up that 1 on 1 vs the keeper sometime before in that game, which could have prevented that whole mess

 

[Hust]

Keyword in Effenberg's comment: Striker.

 

[Cerval]

Keyboard in Effenberg's comment: Striker.

Keyword?

 

[zizinho]

Keyboard in Effenberg's comment: Striker.

whats your point, Hustini?

:sarcasm:

 

[Hust]

Keyword?

Apple Keyboard IPhone Autospell Problems :yao:

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whats your point, Hustini?

:sarcasm:

Problem? Absolutely nothing when you see things through the Mario is a Striker lense.