Mario Götze (8 Viewers)

[Bianconero_Aus]

there are...there are many that in the 2000-2010 era. but other countries developed better sistems, that's why they have success. look at gotze, look at neuer, look at hazard, then look at italy's clubs

You mean the players who are probably just as good, or not too far behind the players you mentioned (potentially) but never get the chance to play regularly because Serie A clubs are fucking retarded?

Anyway I remember the Euro 2009 U/21 semi between Italy and Germany. Germany won 1-0, but Italy dominated that game and definitely deserved more from it. Look at the players in both squads that day. Potentially Italy's youth players are just as good as any of the countries youve just mentioned.

 

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[ALC]

Yeah, but Italian coaches would rather play Gilardino and the likes over youth.

 

[Joe]

Yeah, but Italian coaches would rather play Gilardino and the likes over youth.

That's the problem. Serie A isn't giving chances to Italian youth.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Yeah, but Italian coaches would rather play Gilardino and the likes over youth.

Thats exactly what I mean, bro. They would rather play "safe" options like Gilardino etc over young and promising players. A player is still considered "young" at 25 years old in Italy. That shit needs to change.

 

[blondu]

You mean the players who are probably just as good, or not too far behind the players you mentioned (potentially) but never get the chance to play regularly because Serie A clubs are fucking retarded?

Anyway I remember the Euro 2009 U/21 semi between Italy and Germany. Germany won 1-0, but Italy dominated that game and definitely deserved more from it. Look at the players in both squads that day. Potentially Italy's youth players are just as good as any of the countries youve just mentioned.

get a list of the starting lineups of france, germany, spain and italy. you'll see only france it's on the same level

Yeah, but Italian coaches would rather play Gilardino and the likes over youth.

evrika

 

[Trequartista]

We need to break the bank for this guy.

 

[Hust]

One of Jojo or Goetze. One of these guys for the future.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

get a list of the starting lineups of france, germany, spain and italy. you'll see only france it's on the same level


evrika

Italy have drawn with Germany in Dortmund and beat Spain earlier this year. Whats your point?

On their day any of these tops teams can beat each other.

 

[Fr3sh]

Forget Gotze! I want Ozil!!

No but in all seriousness...I think it's quite unlikely for us to sign him. We should look in Ligue 1 there is some fantastic players! The likes of Ayew or Marvin Martin, those two are very good and would probably have and immediate impact on our squad.

 

[ZoSo]

Martin Great talent.

 

[JuveJay]

Not nearly as promising as German or Brazilian youth.

That's hardly surprising, or ever going to change...

I suppose with the successful current German team based on a newer breed of players comes the overall rating of their young players en masse. Which is of course nonsense, as individuals should be judged as just that.

 

[blondu]

Italy have drawn with Germany in Dortmund and beat Spain earlier this year. Whats your point?

On their day any of these tops teams can beat each other.

cuz they're 19 years old and not 23...i've read an interesting article about joki low in which he was talking about gotze and how cerebral he is at his age...he wants all his players to take football at a higher level..going through a lot of tactics, a lot of practice so at the of the day the boys could play as he wants to. anyways no matter how hard you're trying to argue me look at italy's young players (3,4 years ago or right now) and except balotelli and marchisio (who started showing himself only this year) all of them are meh..

italy's current u21 squad - not impressive..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_national_under-21_football_team

italy's u21 in june 2009

Goalkeepers: Andrea Consigli (Atalanta), Salvatore Sirigu (Cagliari), Andrea Seculin (Fiorentina)

Defenders: Marco Andreolli (Sassuolo), Salvatore Bocchetti (Genoa), Domenico Criscito (Genoa), Paolo De Ceglie (Juventus), Lino Marzoratti (Empoli), Marco Motta (Roma), Francesco Pisano (Cagliari), Andrea Ranocchia (Bari)

Midfielders: Ignazio Abate (Torino), Antonio Candreva (Livorno), Alessio Cerci (Atalanta), Luca Cigarini (Atalanta), Daniele Dessena (Sampdoria), Claudio Marchisio (Juventus), Piermario Morosini (Vicenza), Andrea Poli (Sassuolo)

Strikers: Robert Acquafresca (Cagliari), Mario Balotelli (Inter), Sebastian Giovinco (Juventus), Alberto Paloschi (Parma).

here's french current u21 squad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_national_under-21_football_team

i can't find out french 2009 squad

germany's u21 squad in 2009

GK 1 Manuel Neuer
RB 2 Andreas Beck
CB 4 Benedikt Höwedes
CB 5 Jérôme Boateng
LB 3 Sebastian Boenisch 65'
DM 15 Mats Hummels 83'
RM 14 Fabian Johnson 69'
CM 20 Gonzalo Castro
CM 8 Sami Khedira (c)
LM 10 Mesut Özil 89'
CF 13 Sandro Wagner 84'
Substitutions:
MF 16 Daniel Schwaab 69'
MF 6 Dennis Aogo 83'
DF 19 Marcel Schmelzer

germany's current u21 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_national_under-21_football_team

spain's current u21 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_national_under-21_football_team

spain's 2009 team

13 Sergio Asenjo
3 Nacho Monreal
5 Marc Torrejón
6 Javi Martínez
7 Sisi
8 Raúl García
9 Bojan Krkić
10 José Manuel Jurado
11 Esteban Granero
14 Sergio Sánchez
15 Chico
Substitutes
1 Roberto
23 Antonio Adán
2 Miguel Torres
4 Javi García
12 César Azpilicueta
16 Iván Marcano
17 Diego Capel
18 Mario Suárez
19 Xisco
20 Jonathan Pereira
21 Adrián López
22 Pedro León

 

[Tommy]

Might be already posted.
"I think in Europe all the top clubs are interested in Mario," Hebel told Calcio Mercato. "I can confirm that I have had contact with Juventus and Manchester United, but not only them.

"I don't know if he'll go away after this season - you should ask Borussia - but I think that they will not let him leave for less than €40 million. He still is very happy at Dortmund, though now he is injured."

 

[GarfielD]

BREAKING NEWS: Mario Gotze extends Dortmund contract to 2016

 

[Ahmed]

hmm, genuine renewal or tactic to drive up his price?

 

[GarfielD]

Time will tell. I think he will stay there for 1 more year.

 

[Hist]

its a pretty long ass contract. Fuck dis shit

 

[JuveJay]

Like he's coming here anyway.

 

[Suns]

So Götze and Reus in the same team next season. Thats fuckin' nice.

 

[Bianconero81]

Well, perhaps staying @ Dortmund for another year is a blessing in disguise. We can then focus all our efforts on acquiring him in the summer of 2013; it's not as far fetched or unreasonable as it may seem.