Mario Götze - AM - Bayern Munich (26 Viewers)

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Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Please stop being so fucking defensive. Pretty sure you want to put this out there so that if shit implodes, you've got evidence that Draxler was always the standard, and Beppe is safe. This is what we need to be aiming for as a club and institution if we have just sold Vidal for more money or less money. After selling Vidal, Beppe's old quote of looking for market opportunities goes out the window. Goetze is the way to make this right and you know it. On the contrary, given that you're a Beppe supporter you need to believe he should be able to pull this off.
He's a biased Beppe supporter but he's right.Goetze isnt realistic.
 

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baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Just realised his wages are around 12M.
Financially, this is what the situation seems to be.

He is seemingly on 7m net wages with Bayern. Juve are offering him 6m wages, inclusive of bonuses. However, they're offering a longer contract to even things out. Bayern's contract ends in 2017/18. Goetze is seemingly considering this (at least by the looks of it), although there is also a rumour that he wants a 7.5m pay off from Bayern if this deal turns out to be s permanent one. That is something Juve have no control over.

Of course, the other alternate being, like you've been reading a buy back clause after two years.
 
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What is immediate results though? Other than barca who have the best generation in their history nobody else wins two cls in 3-4 seasons.
Immediate. Well now Bayern isn't bad at all - they are winning despite losing one of their best players. Obviously they couldn't have done better than their previous coach.

PS: Not to mention the entire domination problem. Which Juve was better Allegri's or Conte's? People judge on European success, but the fact is that luck is a big part of it too. So back to the main point I was trying to make - when one team is dominating the league, a lot of people start to get confused about relative performance. Then there is always the cunning path of unveiling a fool:asking the simple question where did exactly Pep fail?
 

baggio

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He's a biased Beppe supporter but he's right.Goetze isnt realistic.
Even if Goetze isn't realistic. I completely disagree that Draxler is the best we can do after a Vidal sale. Fuck off with that shit. We aren't Athletic Bilbao FFS.

I may not be the biggest Beppe fan, but I believe he and the board know they have a certain responsibility to the club, it's coach and fans, after letting go of one of our biggest players. That cannot be consolidated by buying someone like Draxler, and even worse, having fans on our forums believe that's the best we could do after everything. That's just not right.
 

Xperd

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Even if Goetze isn't realistic. I completely disagree that Draxler is the best we can do after a Vidal sale. Fuck off with that shit. We aren't Athletic Bilbao FFS.

I may not be the biggest Beppe fan, but I believe they know they have a certain responsibility to the club, it's coach and fans, after letting go of one of our biggest players. That cannot be consolidated by buying someone like Draxler, and even worse, having fans on our forums believe that's the best we could do after everything. That's just not right.
Draxler is overhyped but he's also a top talent in his own right.

I just dont believe we have the strength to go after hyped players with big wages even with big sales.We're not PSG to offer oil money wages either.Serie A is an obvious drawback for us.
 

baggio

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Draxler is overhyped but he's also a top talent in his own right.

I just dont believe we have the strength to go after hyped players with big wages even with big sales.We're not PSG to offer oil money wages either.Serie A is an obvious drawback for us.
I never said we were. But we are fucking Juve. There's more from where that came from and it must count for something what we've achieved in the last 4 years without being an oil club. And one of the guys instrumental in making that happen, is the guy currently looking to replace Vidal. So what makes you think it's impossible that we can't do better than Draxler? BS! Apologetic and sadly pessimistic after such a glorious run last year. I'm sorry to see this really.
 

Xperd

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Draxler would cost around the same as Gotze pricetag wise if gotze is unatainable so is draxler
I dont think we'll get Draxler either but the difference here being we wont be prepared to pay what Schalke ask and his wages are well within our reach.
Gotze's case is different because we would have to make him our highest earner to lure him here.I'm not so sure about that.
 

Xperd

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I never said we were. But we are fucking Juve. There's more from where that came from and it must count for something what we've achieved in the last 4 years without being an oil club. And one of the guys instrumental in making that happen, is the guy currently looking to replace Vidal. So what makes you think it's impossible that we can't do better than Draxler? BS! Apologetic and sadly pessimistic after such a glorious run last year. I'm sorry to see this really.
I think we should look for a market opportunity.Sort of wait for a domino affect to happen.We should be patient i think.

Like one of the EPL clubs get Goetze and we get one of their AM's.
 
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