Mario Götze - AM - Bayern Munich (20 Viewers)

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zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Pogba has more talent as btb midfielder. Mascherano is a better cdm

Götze ? name a better cam plz. And take note that Iniesta is starting to decline for more then a year now. Still obvious world class, but in decline.
Where would the money for that winger come from ;)
what does Pogba and Mascherano have to do with Vidal being better than Gotze? unless you say they are better than Gotze too which i agree with.

and Gotze still has to become the best German CAM ahead of Kroos before we continue speaking of him as the best in the world

Just pointing out that a sale of Pogba wouldnt be the end of the world.

Where would the money for that winger come from ;)
we have money

no need for that ;)

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We won't get Gotze then we'll try Draxler but he will say no. Then we try Isco and Real asks too much. We then travel to England and try Oscar only to hear a no from Chelsea.

We will then settle with Vazquez or Saponara. :cry:
we are a nationalistic club. we will 1st try overpaying for Saponara ofcourse
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Look.

We dont know the answers to the various questions about the vidal sale. What we know is this :

- Normal transfers are payed in several parts nowadays
- Vidal is sold for 36+4mil
- That is below his normal valuation
- The 36 mil is all at once

Why, would a club do such a sale ? The Götze scenario, is what brings a plausible answer.

- Juventus wants a cam
- Bayern wants vidal
- Götze is valuated (much) higher then vidal and has a significant wage
- Juventus has done a bunch of ingoing transfers, and completed installments, while it sold player on installments
- Juventus is on low liquidity, bayern swims in it.

Result is that juventus cannot do a "Götze + cash = Vidal" because we cant go do another loan for the needed liquidity for the first installment AND the increased wage+signing fee etc.

A possible solution

- juventus sells Vidal, with 90% of the money beeing payed directly.
=>This gives juventus a significant liquidity to work with.
==>However, Bayern will pay lower then his usual worth, because its not in the normal installments like any modern deal

- Juventus buys Götze in regular installments.
=>Because of the Vidal money, they can now easely afford the initial installment and costs, and the increased wage bill.
 

PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
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Come on people, Gotze isn't coming.

Only realistic possibilities to me are Oscar, if Chelsea signs Isco, or maybe Mata, if he falls out of place at United.

But even those are very very unlikely.

I have no idea what Marotta is going to do when these guys are off the table.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Come on people, Gotze isn't coming.

Only realistic possibilities to me are Oscar, if Chelsea signs Isco, or maybe Mata, if he falls out of place at United.

But even those are very very unlikely.

I have no idea what Marotta is going to do when these guys are off the table.
Cancell the deal, because he's not doing this deal before he has a replacement signed up
 

digitalbash

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Dec 19, 2013
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Look.

We dont know the answers to the various questions about the vidal sale. What we know is this :

- Normal transfers are payed in several parts nowadays
- Vidal is sold for 36+4mil
- That is below his normal valuation
- The 36 mil is all at once

Why, would a club do such a sale ? The Götze scenario, is what brings a plausible answer.

- Juventus wants a cam
- Bayern wants vidal
- Götze is valuated (much) higher then vidal and has a significant wage
- Juventus has done a bunch of ingoing transfers, and completed installments, while it sold player on installments
- Juventus is on low liquidity, bayern swims in it.

Result is that juventus cannot do a "Götze + cash = Vidal" because we cant go do another loan for the needed liquidity for the first installment AND the increased wage+signing fee etc.

A possible solution

- juventus sells Vidal, with 90% of the money beeing payed directly.
=>This gives juventus a significant liquidity to work with.
==>However, Bayern will pay lower then his usual worth, because its not in the normal installments like any modern deal

- Juventus buys Götze in regular installments.
=>Because of the Vidal money, they can now easely afford the initial installment and costs, and the increased wage bill.
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Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
He is 5 years younger and potentially top level quite skillfull AM, but get a grip, Vidal is better.
As i say in every post to make sure i'm not getting strawmanned : I would never sell vidal.


Vidal, from the first 3 seasons was an insane player. This season ? Well he was defensively good again. Not Mascherano good offcourse.

Götze ? Oh you know, with him Dortmund was invincible in the CL. Without him they were a different team.


Götze's impact on the CL finalist dortmund, was bigger then Vidal's impact on juventus.
You can look up 2012/2013 Dortmund in the CL when you disagree.


The fucking bieber look a like. What a disgusting talented player
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
Yeah that goes without saying Deneb :tup:

Tho saw Baggio for a season as a kid (when I became fan), and Zizou initial was just so siiiick, less so in last couple of seasons.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
As i say in every post to make sure i'm not getting strawmanned : I would never sell vidal.


Vidal, from the first 3 seasons was an insane player. This season ? Well he was defensively good again. Not Mascherano good offcourse.

Götze ? Oh you know, with him Dortmund was invincible in the CL. Without him they were a different team.


Götze's impact on the CL finalist dortmund, was bigger then Vidal's impact on juventus.
You can look up 2012/2013 Dortmund in the CL when you disagree.


The fucking bieber look a like. What a disgusting talented player
Get a hold of yourself dude. Götze was great in spurts, decisive in needed moments with his technical level, but alot of the time he was inconsistent too. Haven't shown kind of unquestionably world class level Vidal has yet.

Dortmund was just all around well oiled red bull charged speed demons with alot of young quality players that fit the system. Relied alot on the technique of him, Gundogan, Kagawa and Lewandowski. But when he disappeared in parts of the season , it was forgiven a bit due to his age and mainly because others carried the slack.

He showed top player potential for sure, but he is not one yet...
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Ask a Dortmund or Bündesliga fan.


Götze missing the final, is considered by dortmund fans like nedved missing the 2003 final.

Season afterwards, dortmund kinda sucked
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
Yeah both true, needed him in final and more predictable with less skillfull and more runners, but Vidal is still the better player dude.
 
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