Marco 'The Escape Goat' Motta (13 Viewers)

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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I thought he played well aside from what Red said, having to mark Cassano. That guy has a nasty cross and enjoys getting forward confidently. I like the guy.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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He had some sweet crosses, yeah.

Anyway, it's freakin' Cassano. He's simply one of the most unpredictable players in Serie A. Also, Motta has a hard task to cover Krasic's position when the latter cuts in and place himself in center. We have a gap on the right side and it's why I don't like Krasic's Serbian NT role in our team. Too much goes on Motta's shoulders. But however, I think Motta will do just fine.

I laugh at those who think Grygera is better. But hey at least it's amusing to read such comments.
 

Hust

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He had some sweet crosses, yeah.

Anyway, it's freakin' Cassano. He's simply one of the most unpredictable players in Serie A. Also, Motta has a hard task to cover Krasic's position when the latter cuts in and place himself in center. We have a gap on the right side and it's why I don't like Krasic's Serbian NT role in our team. Too much goes on Motta's shoulders. But however, I think Motta will do just fine.

I laugh at those who think Grygera is better. But hey at least it's amusing to read such comments.
I only saw one person say Grygera was better a few posts up...you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink, Dusan.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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For this match that's a good excuse, I agree. As it will be against Milan and Ronaldinho. But even if he won't be as badly owned as he was against Antonio and he will be against Dinho, the defensive flaws are there for everyone to see and I can't imagine how will he fix that.

Also, I would like to have a RB for whom it won't be ok to be owned by Cassano and Dinho and who is able to shut down great players. For this year we're without a choice, but next summer we will have a choice and I sure hope it won't be to buy out Motta's contract in order to make him our starting RB. He is very cheap and he's young. We could buy him because he's ok for a squad player. He most probably won't be good enough to start for a quality side.
 

JuveJay

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I'm with Alen here, I like Motta as a player but he has shown bad positional sense and awareness in more than just this game, against Bari and even Sturm away too.
 

Red

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De Ceglie came up against Cassano a few times as well, he looked remarkably better if you ask me.

It's still early days so judging Motta might be premature, but it doesn't look promising. Not at all.
De Ceglie had a pretty solid game, I thought, but could have done more to stop the cross that lead to the third goal.

Motta is poor at defending.

The blame on the first goal is too rude i think. Although i actually agree he is give far more room to Cassano, but the movement from Cassano is far from dangerous, Cassano try to move backward and then he suddenly give diagonal pass to the center and it's not in penalty area.. Actually in that kind of situation there is another player closing down Cassano while Motta covering and try to protect the flank if there will be support for Cassano... If we can blame Motta, why not also blaming Bonucci/Chiellini on that part for not watching Pozzi closely and allow him to shoot comfotably..
One of the CBs should have been marking Pozzi.

I disagree that Cassono's movement wasn't dangerous.

Lots of the goals he sets up come from that sort of move. He gets the ball on the left flank, moves inside a bit and then delivers a pass/cross to a dangeous position.

What Motta should have done was show Cassano down the line onto his left foot. Don't let him move inside on to his right foot and allow him time to look up and pick a pass.

I would say the most avoidable goal is the second goal. I look and look again at the highlight and see how stupid our backline.. We clear the ball and Cassano got the ball, pass it to Palombo while no one of our MC near Palombo.. All of our players caught ball watching on Palombo and Cassano still continue his run and Palombo can deliver a good chip pass to him.. I forgot where is Motta on the part when Cassano run, can someone mention it..
Goals like that are tough to prevent.

You have to push out and clear the penalty area quickly, or you end up being under a lot of pressure with balls coming back in.

However, when a pass and run are as perfectly executed as that, there isn't much you can do.

It was an excellent goal from Samp's perspective. All Juve could have done was put pressure on Palombo, rather than allowing him time to look up and pick a pass.

It's pretty tough to mark Cassano in that situation, because the main priority has to be pushing up as a unit to avoid being penned back in the penalty area.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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If De Ceglie can improve and play well like he did yesterday when everyone was claiming he is an idiot in defense then why the hell can't Motta?


First everyone was against DC and one good game he is off the radar and now Motta is targeted?

:dielaugh:
 

awit

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I'm with Alen here, I like Motta as a player but he has shown bad positional sense and awareness in more than just this game, against Bari and even Sturm away too.
Not to mention he was dropped from the Italy squad for showing those same faults
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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I'm with Alen here, I like Motta as a player but he has shown bad positional sense and awareness in more than just this game, against Bari and even Sturm away too.
That's very important for a defender and I'm not sure if it's something you get with experience (I know that you can improve it with experience, but get it if you don't have it...?) or something you're born with.
My spatial intelligence is below average. I know for a fact that I'd have made a terrible defender even if I did have physical attributes for that. Could it be the same thing with Motta? :D
 

JuveJay

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Maybe through experience it becomes more of a second nature to be in the right areas to begin with, rather than having to think about where you have to be.
 

Red

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I actually don't think Motta's positional sense is that bad, even if it certainly isn't good.

It's his decision making (whether to press a man or stand off him, whether to show him inside or outside, when to make a challenge) that is poor, and that is very basic stuff.

He also isn't aggressive enough. He was just running alongside Cassano at time when, at the very least, he should have been leaning into him to try and knoch him off balance and make things as hard as possible.
 

Alen

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Maybe through experience it becomes more of a second nature to be in the right areas to begin with, rather than having to think about where you have to be.
I guess you are right :agree:
This also shows why was I against a "young defense" all the time when it was seen by some as a quality. Experience is very important for the defenders. Unless we're talking about 4 great young talents, then 2 experienced defenders (who need to be quality defenders, of course) is the least required in the defensive quartet.
 

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