Marco Borriello (7 Viewers)

Do you want Borriello to stay, and do you think he will?

  • I want him to stay, and I think he will :)

  • I hope he leaves, but I think he'll stay :mad:

  • I want him to stay, but I think he'll leave :sad:

  • I think we'll ship his ass off. Good riddance! :D

  • I want him to stay, but at a much lower price


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Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
That could be true.

One question, though: Where do you think we'd have been right now if we bought Vidic instead of Vucinic? Do you think we were gonna do the same or better and how do you think we were gonna finish the season if we bought Vidic and played Quag instead of buying Mirko?
Yes, i believe that with Vidic and Quaq as starters we would lose less points than we lost with Vucinic and Bonucci.


But most important than that would be that it would be easier to build a more competitive team next year.
 

acmilan

Plusvalenza Akbar
Nov 8, 2005
10,722
A Milan fan cannot understand the concept of not having enough money to buy the starter we need, because we have spent too much on the subs.
Neither about salary cap limitations, they can just go ahead and buy more, but we are just ...the new age Juve, a limited club, with very limited capabilities...
with the exception of the past year or so, Milan fans have been enjoying the dubious pleasure of not having money to buy proper players since calciopoli :D
what subs? with Amauri, Toni, Iaquinta gone and Quag not impressing Conte, as it seems, you don't have enough players up-front to speak of subs.
anyways, once you do your winter/summer in-house cleaning, with or without Borriello, you'll have the space and money to buy a proper star striker to appease the fans ... weather you'd get the right guy, that remains to be seen.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,923
I don't like this transfer, btw.

I see the logic in loaning a player like Borriello but I fear that we'll make it permanent so I don't like it. Hopefully Matri will score a lot and play well so Borriello won't get any chances to convince the board to buy him.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,923
Yes, i believe that with Vidic and Quaq as starters we would lose less points than we lost with Vucinic and Bonucci.


But most important than that would be that it would be easier to build a more competitive team next year.
We were still gonna need a player with brains upfront, which Vucinic is, as much as you refuse to believe it.

The truth is that we needed both Vucinic and a Vidic to build a competitive team, and we were still gonna lack a top quality forward up front. Having only one of Vidic or Vucinic was gonna bring more or less the same success this year, although I think that having Vidic without Vucinic was gonna bring us 2-3 less pts than having Mirko instead of Vidic.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,868
I don't like this transfer, btw.

I see the logic in loaning a player like Borriello but I fear that we'll make it permanent so I don't like it. Hopefully Matri will score a lot and play well so Borriello won't get any chances to convince the board to buy him.
If he out performs Matri then he should be bought, do you agree?
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
Borriello will do well for us.

8 goals this season for us.
for a finisher, 8 goals is not quite much and Boriello can hardly do that when he has more playing time than he will with us.
We will have many issues when Vucinic returns and Quaqs keep playing better than Boriello ever will.Remember that Boriello left Roma because he was Osvaldos sub, imagine now with Matri and Vucinic, possibly even Quaq being ahead of him in the pecking order.

I m just feeling sorry for the disgrace we show for DP, as we practically say to him, that the season is over for him...



PS: unless Conte starts using a real 4-3-3 with a trident of one CF (Matri,Borrielo,Toni) and 2 SSs (Vucinic, Quaq, DP, Pepe, Giacche, EstiG):tuttosport::tuttosport:
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Agreed ALEN

Bonucci i think was only at direct fault for the napoli goals match. other matches not so much.

we struggle to win any match whe vucinic doesn't play.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Milan fans were booing him for celebrating after he scored, not for scoring
Did Maldini also celebrate a goal against Milan?

considering most of you guys have been wrong about pretty much anything regarding your team, one would think that you'd learn at one point and give it a moment of rest before you start spreading hate and whine around :D
At least we were never sure about a star player signing for us :p
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,923
If he out performs Matri then he should be bought, do you agree?
Depends.
I don't want to enter CL with all three of Borriello, Matri and Quag. If we could find someone to pay us 15m eur for Matri, which we won't, then replacing him with Borriello is acceptable, but not something to be thrilled about. Borriello will be 30 in June so even if he has a good half season where he scores 8-10 goals, like Matri did in the 2nd half of last season, I will push more towards not buying him.
I just don't want us to sign someone to spend his last professional years with us, unless he's proven quality, which Borriello isn't. What can he give us in his 30's when he rarely did anything worthy for the most part of his career? He's not a bad player but there is no serious point in buying him.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
We were still gonna need a player with brains upfront, which Vucinic is, as much as you refuse to believe it.

The truth is that we needed both Vucinic and a Vidic to build a competitive team, and we were still gonna lack a top quality forward up front. Having only one of Vidic or Vucinic was gonna bring more or less the same success this year, although I think that having Vidic without Vucinic was gonna bring us 2-3 less pts than having Mirko instead of Vidic.
Quaq last year proved that he can be that player as well and further more be more prolific for the same playing time, Giovinco could too, if you are only interested at creating and would rather prefer just a left sided Pepe, than a second possible forward. (not like the midget scored any less this year)
We had options, esp for a non CL year, quaqs was enough IMO and some cheaper depth would do.
Vidic for the defense would seal the holes from this year and the next ones and with the CL appeal yet again, we would only have to buy a serious forward.

Now we just have many subs and more needs for starters, if we want to build a competitive team.
 

acmilan

Plusvalenza Akbar
Nov 8, 2005
10,722
Did Maldini also celebrate a goal against Milan?



At least we were never sure about a star player signing for us :p
at least we had Maldini :stuckup:

yeah right ... must have imagined all the fapping in the Aguero thread :p
and we are getting our start signing in the winter :stuckup:
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,868
Depends.
I don't want to enter CL with all three of Borriello, Matri and Quag. If we could find someone to pay us 15m eur for Matri, which we won't, then replacing him with Borriello is acceptable, but not something to be thrilled about. Borriello will be 30 in June so even if he has a good half season where he scores 8-10 goals, like Matri did in the 2nd half of last season, I will push more towards not buying him.
I just don't want us to sign someone to spend his last professional years with us, unless he's proven quality, which Borriello isn't. What can he give us in his 30's when he rarely did anything worthy for the most part of his career? He's not a bad player but there is no serious point in buying him.
I keep forgetting to take his age into consideration. Good post
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,923
Quaq last year proved that he can be that player as well and further more be more prolific for the same playing time, Giovinco could too, if you are only interested at creating and would rather left side Pepe, than a second possible forward. (not like the midget scored any less this year)
We had options, esp for a non CL year, quaqs was enough IMO and some cheaper depth would do.Vidic for the defense would seal the wholes from this year and the next ones and with the CL appeal yet again, we would only have to buy a serious forward.

Now we just have many subs and more needs for starters, if we want to build a competitive team.
Quag keeps proving that he's a CF. It's perfectly obvious that in this Juve he's fighting with Matri for a starting spot, not with Vucinic. Having both Quag and Matri at the same time will result with more matches like the one in Udinese, when we begged for pure talent and a bit of brains.
So, even if we started Quag this season, which he indeed deserved last year, it should have been at the expense of Matri. We were gonna be a good number of points behind Milan if we had a Quag-Matri-Pepe trio up front and Marchisio would have had some 1-2 goals instead of 6. Yeah, we were gonna concede some 2-3 goals less. Or 2-3 more if Chiellini partnered Vidic and kept playing the way he did as a CB at the start of the year.
Like it or not, Vucinic was needed to this team and will be needed even more if we make CL next year. He, Pirlo and Del Piero are the only ones who proved to have the required quality to outperform Europe's best teams and players. All the Quags, Matris and Borriellos that we have will never come close to that, even if they keep scoring more in serie A than Mirko, Pirlo and Del Piero.
 

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