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Tomice

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Mar 25, 2009
3,024
what? How did I help him save snobist please? Give me something concrete or I can make wild accusations too
It appeared so at a glance. As I already said I would go over the voting pattern tomrrow.

We can call it a wild accusation at the moment.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,975
So we need to assume both you and ALC have his ear, are exchanging PM's, reveling roles to each other and what not but neither one of you two couldn't convince him already to go public? Yeah, not likely
Very strange post, Tomice.

And I am convincing him throughout the thread. I am convincing him in PMs right now.
Anyway, we'll know soon if he is or he isn't the real BG.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,820
Very strange post, Tomice.

And I am convincing him throughout the thread. I am convincing him in PMs right now.
Anyway, we'll know soon if he is or he isn't the real BG.
Even if what you say is true, (I assume it is, since Snobist could very easily come out and contradict you if you were lying) you could still be a G.

What this guy says with a slight change we investigate one of hoori or choco and lynch Alen
I say investigate Alen and lynch Choco or Hoori.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Even if what you say is true, (I assume it is, since Snobist could very easily come out and contradict you if you were lying) you could still be a G.
I could be.

But if I were a G and Snobist told me he was the BG, the last thing I would have done was to tell you all how I believe that he's the BG and I certainly wouldn't have asked for the BG to come out. I'd have made sure that Snobist was lynched today or tomorrow. And it wasn't gonna be hard.
 

Tomice

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Mar 25, 2009
3,024
Very strange post, Tomice.

And I am convincing him throughout the thread. I am convincing him in PMs right now.
Anyway, we'll know soon if he is or he isn't the real BG.
The guy is clueless, more so if what you say is actually true and he PM'd you and ALC his role.

Why would he contact you or ALC, reveal himself and won't even trust you enough to listen. It only make sense then if he is a G.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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The guy is clueless, more so if what you say is actually true and he PM'd you and ALC his role.

Why would he contact you or ALC, reveal himself, if he doesn even trust you enough to listen. It only make sense then if he is a G.
He's a loose cannon. And I think he's afraid of being tricked. I am pretty sure he is the BG, but I give slight chance to him being a normal C showing off in PM.

Now... you.
There are 2-3 things I found very suspicious about you. Give me a minute.
 

Tomice

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Mar 25, 2009
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He's a loose cannon. And I think he's afraid of being tricked. I am pretty sure he is the BG, but I give slight chance to him being a normal C showing off in PM.

Now... you.
There are 2-3 things I found very suspicious about you. Give me a minute.
Sure, go ahead

Also a guy who is afraid of being tricked doesn't initiate contact with the most tricky player in the game. As I said either a G or the most deserving lynched C ever.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,820
Sure, go ahead

Also a guy who is afraid of being tricked doesn't initiate contact with the most tricky player in the game. As I said either a G or the most deserving lynched C ever.
What if he's just a clueless BG? I don't think we should lynch Snobist yet. If he's a G, he will definitely fuck up and make it obvious in the next couple of days.
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
37,254
He wasn't helping me.

What happened is this:

Snobist (yesterday, in PM to me): "What is your role. Last time we played together u fucked me up when I believed u were a G because you were accusing Osman for being a G which he was. Then in last minute I changed my vote to protect you. "
Alen: I'm a normal civilian. You?
Snobist: I'm the bodyguard :D

Then I spent the entire day saying how I suspect that he's the bodyguard.

And everything was fine, until ALC too started claiming that Snobist is the BG.
I figured, they are both Albanians. If the mofo told me about his role, he probably told ALC too and God knows how many others know.

So he wouldn't be manipulated by a G, I am asking the fucker to come out publicly.

P.S: And that is why I insisted the D to stay hidden.
@Snobist is this true?
 

Tomice

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Mar 25, 2009
3,024
What if he's just a clueless BG? I don't think we should lynch Snobist yet. If he's a G, he will definitely fuck up and make it obvious in the next couple of days.
I think it most likely also that if he was clueless we would actually listen to ALC and Alen.

Even if he is afraid that one of them trickes him, what are the chances both are G's? because they both want him to go public, he has no reason to not listen since one a G and the other I a C or both are C's
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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That post where you questioned what I said about Snobist admitting to me that he's the BG. I struggle to understand your logic there.
Also, you were the one who insisted the D to come out, not the BG. You narrated the last game and you witnessed first hand that it worked well with the BG. Why were you against it this time?
You will answer me from a C perspective, of course. I would like to hear it.

If you're a G, though, you knew that both me and Snobist are Cs. And I kept insisting that Snobist is the BG. Now, if you are a G, you'd have asked yourself why am I insisting so hard on Snobist being a BG and you'd find it possible that he is indeed the BG. Makes sense to try to convince the D to come out and find out the two main C roles.

To me, you're just as likely to be a C, G, Detective, lawyer or jailer. I don't think that you're a G anymore than I think you're a plain C. But I'd appreciate if you give an answer to my questions.
 

Tomice

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Mar 25, 2009
3,024
That post where you questioned what I said about Snobist admitting to me that he's the BG. I struggle to understand your logic there.
Also, you were the one who insisted the D to come out, not the BG. You narrated the last game and you witnessed first hand that it worked well with the BG. Why were you against it this time?
You will answer me from a C perspective, of course. I would like to hear it.

If you're a G, though, you knew that both me and Snobist are Cs. And I kept insisting that Snobist is the BG. Now, if you are a G, you'd have asked yourself why am I insisting so hard on Snobist being a BG and you'd find it possible that he is indeed the BG. Makes sense to try to convince the D to come out and find out the two main C roles.

To me, you're just as likely to be a C, G, Detective, lawyer or jailer. I don't think that you're a G anymore than I think you're a plain C. But I'd appreciate if you give an answer to my questions.
I think my logic regarding your story being unbelievable was pretty clear. The behavior dissonance in the explanation for snobist motives does not make sense to me. I guess we can all wait for Snobist tomorrow giving his thought.

I never insisted on the D coming out, this is false. I countered your argument that BG should come out by saying it was better in this situation for the D to come out and the BG saty hidden. Without you brining this up I would have never brought this up myself.

Further then that I specified that, again in counter to yours, my plan was that the D should only come out after he investigated a G.
 

X Æ A-12

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Contributor
Sep 4, 2006
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Why her before say, Mr Coco?
some of her odd actions also say it comes down to 1v1 on votes first day it is fairly easy for Gs to subtly sway in one direction that early in the game.

Once I get off work I will finally be able to back comb through the thread and, if she is G, it will put a whole new perspective when looking back on how voting went today.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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I think my logic regarding your story being unbelievable was pretty clear. The behavior dissonance in the explanation for snobist motives does not make sense to me. I guess we can all wait for Snobist tomorrow giving his thought.
The first reaction to that post of mine is what Sidd and Fr3sh did. "Snobist, is this true?". But instead, you rushed to dismiss everything I said.
And Snobist is here right now. We don't have to wait till tomorrow. But he refuses to post :lol:

I never insisted on the D coming out, this is false. I countered your argument that BG should come out by saying it was better in this situation for the D to come out and the BG saty hidden. Without you brining this up I would have never brought this up myself.

Further then that I specified that, again in counter to yours, was that the D should only come out after he investigated a G.
But I said at least 5 times how Snobist is most probably the BG and when I asked the BG to come out, I was calling for Snobist, obviously. It did sound strange that you preferred the D to come out in that situation (after investigating a G, which is fine)

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Btw, thank you jailer for your choice to pick me. It feels strange to be alive after day 1.
 

Tomice

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Mar 25, 2009
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The first reaction to that post of mine is what Sidd and Fr3sh did. "Snobist, is this true?". But instead, you rushed to dismiss everything I said.
And Snobist is here right now. We don't have to wait till tomorrow. But he refuses to post :lol:


But I said at least 5 times how Snobist is most probably the BG and when I asked the BG to come out, I was calling for Snobist, obviously. It did sound strange that you preferred the D to come out in that situation (after investigating a G, which is fine)
I guess that's the difference between me and Fresh, then. Anyway why would that surprise you in the slightest?

I only preferred my idea to yours, but you are implying that I preferred my idea to the current situation with the BG and D both staying hidden, which is very not true.
 

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