Luigi "Vergogna" Delneri (9 Viewers)

Finish the season with or without Del Neri?

  • Yes, keep Del Neri till the end of the season and then fire him

  • Fire Del Neri now and replace him with someone else till the end of the season


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v1rtu4l

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Mar 4, 2008
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. But in his words so far to the public, he's been surprisingly realistic and believable at understanding and assessing where Juve is right now and what it needs.

So he seems not totally clueless. Let's see what he can do with what he's been given.
don't you remember after the winter break ? the appointment of zacch and how he talked about so many sensible things, being able to analyse things in a realistic way ?

i guess we all still have that trauma from ferrara who was totally clueless and did not now shit about anything regarding football tactics.

zacch was a major improvement on ferrara if you only take the "analyze the game"-part, but still zacch could not deliver much... so what i mean to say is... just because someone can "read/understand the game" does not necessarily mean that he can change it... its just that we find anyone talking half sensible shit about football a saviour after ferraras clueless "gotta put more work in next game ... gonna find a solution"
 

Sad Statue

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Mar 28, 2006
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It's true


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The man helped start the whole Chievo thing, UEFA cup qualification.

He didn't fail on the pitch at Porto, I don't think you can hold it agianst him as a coach.
i really hope you are correct mate...
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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He didn't fail on the pitch at Porto, I don't think you can hold it agianst him as a coach.
I disagree. I don't think you can give a coach a wash for that. Porto invested time, money, etc., to bring him over. Maybe he never got to prove what he could do with his team on the pitch, but Porto took the extreme step in showing that it was better for them to hit the reset button and start over than to play a single match with him at the helm.

If that situation happened to a Capello or a Mourinho, you might cite "irreconcilable differences" and blame the club as much as the coach for the fit. But the fact would remain that a coach that doesn't fit in at a club is a mutual failed decision -- whether that failure comes from pitch performance or in working constructively with the board.

The last thing I want to see is Juve scrambling for alternative coaches again mid-season because something isn't working out: whether for poor pitch performance or because the guy doesn't fit in the club. And it's not like Porto is Chievo or even Sampdoria: they have annual league championship and Champions League ambitions, which we ideally should have as well.
 

IrishZebra

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Jun 18, 2006
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I disagree. I don't think you can give a coach a wash for that. Porto invested time, money, etc., to bring him over. Maybe he never got to prove what he could do with his team on the pitch, but Porto took the extreme step in showing that it was better for them to hit the reset button and start over than to play a single match with him at the helm.

If that situation happened to a Capello or a Mourinho, you might cite "irreconcilable differences" and blame the club as much as the coach for the fit. But the fact would remain that a coach that doesn't fit in at a club is a mutual failed decision -- whether that failure comes from pitch performance or in working constructively with the board.

The last thing I want to see is Juve scrambling for alternative coaches again mid-season because something isn't working out: whether for poor pitch performance or because the guy doesn't fit in the club.
I can't comment on the mental stability and fortitude of the Coach, I can only say that you can't call somebody a failure at a football management job if they don't even manage for one match. You certainly can contend that past behaviour might affect his ability to man manage Juventus but it speaks nothing about his tactics etc. I don't know anything about Porto and how they operate but I believe it Delneri was absent a lot and apparently was racist to the black players but I dunno.

I get where you're coming from but it sort of seems like you're saying he won't be able to tough it out maybe and that he might not 'fit in'. That is indeed worrying, however we had a certain manager that never said die and got on well with the whole Club structure, his name was Ciro Ferrara. I would like to hope that Agnelli asked Delneri about it in the interview, if there was one.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Being a good football manager requires managing downwards (your players, your coaches) but also managing upwards (the board, investors/the owners) and managing sideways (sponsors, the media, club technical and medical staff, etc.). Succeeding at just one of those is not enough to cut it at this level.

The good news is that the GM part isn't a worry at least.
 

IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
23,327
I can't possible comment on how good he is at those facets of the job considering he hasn't started it yet and Juventus as a football club I'm sure is a different ethos/structure than Porto or Chievo
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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Del Neri: 'No revolution at Juve'
Wednesday 16 June, 2010

Juventus' new boss Gigi Del Neri insists that there is no need for a revolution at the club after one of the worst seasons on record.

Interviewed on Chiambrettopoli, Del Neri gave an insight into his first month in charge of the Turin giants after his move from Sampdoria.

There is no need for a revolution at Juve, only freshness,” Del Neri said. “We need to change tack, not throw everything away.

“Something must be recovered and then it's necessary to insert motivated players to change the direction of the team.”


Del Neri was then asked for his reaction to comments made by midfielder Felipe Melo who criticised the club while on international duty with Brazil.

“It's up to the club to evaluate his comment and a fine will also be taken into consideration.

“I don't know if Melo will stay. I believe that he can return to being useful, not last year's Melo, but that of Fiorentina and the Brazilian national team.”


Del Neri also responded to scepticism surrounding his appointment.

I have risen through the ranks at all levels. I don't feel like someone who has arrived by chance, but out of meritocracy. I coached, played and got results everywhere. And if I am now at Juve, I won't apologise to anyone. I will not change my attitude and my thinking. I am not scared of Ferrara's and Zaccheroni's failure, it's part of this world.”

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