Luciano Moggi (27 Viewers)

Shall we move Moggi's thread to the [Legend] section?

  • Yes, move it to the legend section

  • No, it shouldn't, keep it as it is

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Kosta

The Eccentric
Jul 16, 2006
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it's ok if we believe exact opposite things. but if people who believe Moggi didn't cheat are moggi's cocksuckers, that's automatically mean those who believe we have cheated are moratti's cocksuckers. There is undeniable injustice in this calciopoli theatre and i can't swallow injustice. 4 years full of humiliation, lost identity of Juventus and cheater label as bonus made majority of Juventini angry. Others can believe whatever they want but they must show respect and understand our sensitivity.
From the time we joined this forums, your English has been improved a lot. :tup:
 

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C4ISR

Senior Member
Dec 18, 2005
2,362
turk it's time to understand,guys like me and jack DO NOT think that Moggi and Juventus were guilty of fixing Italian football,we simply hate that such an unsavoury character was allowed to drag our clubs name through the mud so badly that people BELIEVED we were capable of such a thing
People need someone to point the finger at, a scapegoat, and Moggi was the easiest target. For someone known as being secretive and crafty in transfer dealings, it's not a hard sell to make him out as some sort of master manipulator.

He certainly did not drag our name through the mud though. That is the work of biased Italian media who have clear links with rival clubs (as do we with Tuttoshit and La Stampa). The non stop barrage of slander and lies printed against Juventus are responsible for our current reputation. Had they reported on calciopoli in a proper an honest way, people would think of Juventus in a different light (other than rival fans, who are incapable of being objective).
 

Bozi

The Bozman
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Oct 18, 2005
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People need someone to point the finger at, a scapegoat, and Moggi was the easiest target. For someone known as being secretive and crafty in transfer dealings, it's not a hard sell to make him out as some sort of master manipulator.

He certainly did not drag our name through the mud though. That is the work of biased Italian media who have clear links with rival clubs (as do we with Tuttoshit and La Stampa). The non stop barrage of slander and lies printed against Juventus are responsible for our current reputation. Had they reported on calciopoli in a proper an honest way, people would think of Juventus in a different light (other than rival fans, who are incapable of being objective).
how can you say he didn't drag or name through te mud?

forget Calcipoli for a second,cast your mind back a few years and Karl Heinz Rummenigge becoming outraged with Moggi for his courting of Sagnol-"I do not want to have anything else to do with Juventus sporting director Luciano Moggi," Karl-Heinz Rummenigge said in Bild am Sonntag Sunday. "They are not gentleman. That is the mafia."

some of us were not shocked to read thta Moggi was so underhand with his dealings,in fact lots on here then idiotically sported Moggi-Godfather avatars,the more thoughtful of us preached caution,knowing that Moggi was tarnishing our club with the brush of misconduct,we all said that it could come back and bite us on the arse.......

this was not the first time Moggi was accused of underhand tactics,shady dealings,we all knew it and we all knew he would continue to do it while in charge,some people just liked to turn a blind eye to it. however this dragged the good name of our club through the mud and eventually allowed the massed public to believe that we were actually capable of running Italian foorball to our own ends,if you cannot see how that damaged us i cannot help you
 

C4ISR

Senior Member
Dec 18, 2005
2,362
how can you say he didn't drag or name through te mud?

forget Calcipoli for a second,cast your mind back a few years and Karl Heinz Rummenigge becoming outraged with Moggi for his courting of Sagnol-"I do not want to have anything else to do with Juventus sporting director Luciano Moggi," Karl-Heinz Rummenigge said in Bild am Sonntag Sunday. "They are not gentleman. That is the mafia."

some of us were not shocked to read thta Moggi was so underhand with his dealings,in fact lots on here then idiotically sported Moggi-Godfather avatars,the more thoughtful of us preached caution,knowing that Moggi was tarnishing our club with the brush of misconduct,we all said that it could come back and bite us on the arse.......

this was not the first time Moggi was accused of underhand tactics,shady dealings,we all knew it and we all knew he would continue to do it while in charge,some people just liked to turn a blind eye to it. however this dragged the good name of our club through the mud and eventually allowed the massed public to believe that we were actually capable of running Italian foorball to our own ends,if you cannot see how that damaged us i cannot help you
He may have not acted saintly, but this means nothing in the large scheme of things. There are countless other wolf type directors still in football who do not share a similar reputation as Moggi.

Juventus have always been the most hated team in Italy, and people have always claimed we cheated, long before Moggi was at Juventus. It was only until calciopoli that our reputation took a a significant nose dive, and that was not the fault of Moggi. Moggi may have made it easier for people to believe in a cheating Juventus, but in the absence of any proof showing that Juventus cheated, it is irrelevant what rival fans believe.

As for the opinions of rival teams who are having their players taken away, what do you expect them to say? Of course they are going to point the finger and cry wolf. This has been the case with endless teams, not just Juventus, when they tap up other players (which was not a tactic unique to Moggi).
 

Bozi

The Bozman
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Oct 18, 2005
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the ;problem is,though many fans have always shouted cheat at Juventus,our image was never tarnished because as a club we stood for everything that is grand and regal in the game...with Moggi at the helm the clubs image took a bashing,sure other directors are not saints,but none openly courted controversy the way Moggi did
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
People need someone to point the finger at, a scapegoat, and Moggi was the easiest target. For someone known as being secretive and crafty in transfer dealings, it's not a hard sell to make him out as some sort of master manipulator.

He certainly did not drag our name through the mud though. That is the work of biased Italian media who have clear links with rival clubs (as do we with Tuttoshit and La Stampa). The non stop barrage of slander and lies printed against Juventus are responsible for our current reputation. Had they reported on calciopoli in a proper an honest way, people would think of Juventus in a different light (other than rival fans, who are incapable of being objective).
He may have not acted saintly, but this means nothing in the large scheme of things. There are countless other wolf type directors still in football who do not share a similar reputation as Moggi.

Juventus have always been the most hated team in Italy, and people have always claimed we cheated, long before Moggi was at Juventus. It was only until calciopoli that our reputation took a a significant nose dive, and that was not the fault of Moggi. Moggi may have made it easier for people to believe in a cheating Juventus, but in the absence of any proof showing that Juventus cheated, it is irrelevant what rival fans believe.

As for the opinions of rival teams who are having their players taken away, what do you expect them to say? Of course they are going to point the finger and cry wolf. This has been the case with endless teams, not just Juventus, when they tap up other players (which was not a tactic unique to Moggi).
Thank you for saving me all the typing !! :beer: :beer:

the ;problem is,though many fans have always shouted cheat at Juventus,our image was never tarnished because as a club we stood for everything that is grand and regal in the game...with Moggi at the helm the clubs image took a bashing,sure other directors are not saints,but none openly courted controversy the way Moggi did
He confronted controversy head on...so what ??

You tell me what he did differently than any other director ??

Moratti is the ultimate SCUM...I said this back in 2006, when he had his poop-boy Guido Rossi take down our club. We can thank THEM for the mess we are in now
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,381
Thank you for saving me all the typing !! :beer: :beer:



He confronted controversy head on...so what ??

You tell me what he did differently than any other director ??

Moratti is the ultimate SCUM...I said this back in 2006, when he had his poop-boy Guido Rossi take down our club. We can thank THEM for the mess we are in now
So shall we have all Serie A clubs run by crooks?
 

khalidkassim

Senior Member
Feb 2, 2007
616
except moggi isn't proving that, he's just proving everyone is guilty and thus we're innocent by relativity.

If they end up not doing anything to Inter or Udinese or any other team that is uncovered, I demand Juve's lawyers file a lawsuit against the FIGC for damages incurred by relegation. Why do we get relegated when the fckers that did the same shit only get historical change bullshit! I wanna see blood cause we've been sent into the stone age...I MISS JUVE WITH MOGGI
 

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