Luciano Moggi (18 Viewers)

[The Curr]

"Take into account that to do the deal for Paolucci he had to get Franzo Grande Stevens to telephone Siena's President in person?"

That's embarrassing for Juve.

 

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[Stephan]

I think its a question of reputation now. Since going to B and coming back we have been talking here about making Juve a new brand, a new team. I remember people have mixed opinions about Moggi after the whole calciopoli saga.

I think its a tricky one:

1. choose success (cause the current board isnt good enough)
2. choose bad reputation (we will clearly be called cheaters and as things stand now, with Moggi returning and if we become success, we will be called even bigger cheaters, since, well right now, when things are apparently honest, we aint competitive enough).

 

[ReBeL]

If he comes back, I'll follow football again.

Until then, it is a big mess.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

"Take into account that to do the deal for Paolucci he had to get Franzo Grande Stevens to telephone Siena's President in person?"

That's embarrassing for Juve.

Embarrassing indeed, if it's really true that is.

Anyway, it's obvious that Moggi does not give a damn about Juve anymore. If he did, he wouldn't go around making statements that make us look even worse.
Seeing his own name in the papers & getting people to talk about him is all he's interested in right now.

 

[ReBeL]

Embarrassing indeed, if it's really true that is.

Anyway, it's obvious that Moggi does not give a damn about Juve anymore. If he did, he wouldn't go around making statements that make us look even worse.
Seeing his own name in the papers & getting people to talk about him is all he's interested in right now.

We are bad enough, and we don't need anybody to make us look worse because worse than this won't happen ever..

 

[Dostoevsky]

Embarrassing indeed, if it's really true that is.

Anyway, it's obvious that Moggi does not give a damn about Juve anymore. If he did, he wouldn't go around making statements that make us look even worse.
Seeing his own name in the papers & getting people to talk about him is all he's interested in right now.

I wouldn't put it that way. It's still Moggi, I think his criticism counts the most in our case and his words hurt more than fans protest and everything.

 

[V]

Embarrassing indeed, if it's really true that is.

Anyway, it's obvious that Moggi does not give a damn about Juve anymore. If he did, he wouldn't go around making statements that make us look even worse.
Seeing his own name in the papers & getting people to talk about him is all he's interested in right now.

He's a huge egocentric. He cares about his name and reputation, not Juve as a club. Thus, the old Juve was his selling point, the current is his punching bag.

Whether he will come back I don't know, but if he will, he most definetly will not return for Juve's sake but his own.

 

[Stephan]

We should make a poll here mods.

Would you want him to return (to Juve)?
Yes
No

 

[Azzurri7]

He's a huge egocentric. He cares about his name and reputation, not Juve as a club. Thus, the old Juve was his selling point, the current is his punching bag.

Whether he will come back I don't know, but if he will, he most definetly will not return for Juve's sake but his own.

I share the same opinion here.

 

[IrishZebra]

We should make a poll here mods.

Would you want him to return (to Juve)?
Yes I am an Idiot that hasn't learned from the past
No I'm not a douche

Fixed.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Let me try to create poll here. Rab will fix if I do something wrong

 

[Azzurri7]

Let me try to create poll here. Rab will fix if I do something wrong

I edited something to look more interesting.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

We are bad enough, and we don't need anybody to make us look worse because worse than this won't happen ever..

You are right that we don't need anybody to make us look worse, yet Moggi does just that. And he has been doing that for the past 3,5 years.

I wouldn't put it that way. It's still Moggi, I think his criticism counts the most in our case and his words hurt more than fans protest and everything.

Of course his criticism counts for a lot: there are thousands of people going over his every word & analyzing his thoughts. Just like we are doing.

He's a huge egocentric. He cares about his name and reputation, not Juve as a club. Thus, the old Juve was his selling point, the current is his punching bag.

Whether he will come back I don't know, but if he will, he most definetly will not return for Juve's sake but his own.

You couldn't be more correct.



Look, I still have respect for Moggi. He arrived at Juve when we were in an extremely difficult situation. Results wise & finances wise.
He was a major asset to us back then & helped to turn things around.
But the fact remains that he was never more than an employee, a very powerful one obviously. He was & will always be looking for what's best for him.

 

[Dostoevsky]

I edited something to look more interesting.

Hehe, alright.

 

[Stephan]

You forgot to add the 3rd option for IrishZebra.

 

[Tommy]

Daddy's gonna be back??

 

[PhRoZeN]

Forza Moggi. Cant wait to see you back. Its good to see some fans here changing their opinion about him.

 

[Tomice]

I think its a question of reputation now. Since going to B and coming back we have been talking here about making Juve a new brand, a new team. I remember people have mixed opinions about Moggi after the whole calciopoli saga.

I think its a tricky one:

1. choose success (cause the current board isnt good enough)
2. choose bad reputation (we will clearly be called cheaters and as things stand now, with Moggi returning and if we become success, we will be called even bigger cheaters, since, well right now, when things are apparently honest, we aint competitive enough).

New brand?

A brand needs to attract new fans, how this poor, broken team can attrect anyone ?
Small clubs and big clubs on the way down dont get new fans, winning teams do.
If Moggi will come back, and if he will help us build a winning team again, new fans will come, pepole would talk about this club in awe again.
The only way to turn the page on calciopoli and this awfull period, the only way to make pepole forget this is to beacome a feard team again, not beacoming a "nice guys" club that recive sympathy.

 

[JCK]

Wasn't he supposed to serve a jail period?

 

[Tommy]

that was Giraudo i suppose