Live Mercato Meltdown - 2012/13 (pants filled in 3,2...) (120 Viewers)

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RavaneVialli2

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Aug 4, 2012
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As far as I know it was a gentelmens agreement with JoJo from fiorentina, not a clouse in the contract. So if someone not Juve were knocking I bet he would have been sold, but if we would believe some rumors Juve came knocking with 30 and got nothing in return.
Yes, it wasn't a clause. We just came too late with a high-profile offer because we wanteda bargain. And we ended up with a bargain from Arsenal.
 

NitK

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Why are we not in for Loic Remy?? I know we have a checkered past with French strikers :shifty:

I think I'm quite ruffled by all the rumours of other strikers on the move EASILY of better quality than Bendtner. It's a year loan, I don't care for ages for the year. Adebayor, Roque....easily worth their share at Juve for a year.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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I don't think it's that easy as just spamming their fax mashines with better and better offers. It was clear that to all those players bar JoJo we are not prime real estate, but in JoJo case if we blieve what media is telling us, is that it's not Marottas fault, but Fiorentina not wanting to sell.

What do you suggest to have done different? Offer more money, overpay? Offer bigger contracts and overpay there too?

Llorente, poped up just at the end of the marcet no?

And look, I'm not saying that Marotta did a good job in the strikers department, if you read forums you will see what kind of opinion I have about our latest striker, but all in all, he made us stronger and more competative, and he did that with players that will only get better and will make a core of a team for years, and that ain't a bad thing. The striker fiasco is certainly nothing to be proud of, specially when he talked all summer about it, but all in all he did good. Remember, no ones perfect and if this is the kind of inperfect that we get, I'm ok with it.

Plus, we already have a core team, it's obvious what next needs to be improved, he himslef nows this, just wasn't able to impliment it yet, so judging how he bought, vidal, asamoah, pirlo, isla, pogba, i'm quite confident we will be alright in a year or two.

I completely disagree with the first part. Dzeko was as willing to come here as Llorente is today. We never went beyond am initial offer if at all we made one. It's not about spamming their fax machines. You'll notice, every big club or the ones you consider Juve to be in the league of, operate very differently than we do thanks to Beppe. When it comes to a specialised position you have to have fixed targets to get you your intended target or close to it. Maybe you don't go after pipe dreams like RVP, but on the other end of the spectrum, you domt go after Bendtner either. What happened this summer is exactly what happened last summer. This shows hoe poorly Marrotta operates, without a fixed plan and budget allocation. Suarez would've come here for 30m. We would be overpaying by 3-4m but it would be completely worthwhile, xoz he'd fit our wage structure too. Liverpool aremt even in the CL, and they would see it as a great opportunity to monetize, but we had to make the move when they were uncertain, not after the player was convinced to stay with a new contract. Same applies to JoJo. 25m would be enough to convince shitty up until last week IMO, but we just went looking for the cheapest option. You will never ever close a deal in your best interests if you operate like that. Nor will you close a deal or intact open talks, if you're attitude is one offer: take it or leave it. Marrotta operates at Juve like he would at Sampdoria.

Imagine, he is the man to have gotten rid of Trezeguet. The mighty fucking Trez, and hasn't replaced him in three seasons here. He talks out of his arse every year. Remember last year hoe he said Vucinic won't block the top player arriving? And then this year, it wasn't his arse talk, it was also a logically required move. But he failed, and he failed so misrrably that you have to see how worrying the pattern of his failures are, three seasons running. Remember the Alves saga last year when we absolutely needed a cb and he failed?? Thankfully Barzagli who was brought in as Legro's replacement found the form of a lifetime under Conte's tactics and guidance.

There's no doubt Marrotta has his strengths, picking up on decent players in the 15m bracket and being good wi valuing contracts. But this team is now harboring ambitions in Europe and for that it needs to sign a certain quality of player. Marrotta is incapable of netting that quality, which is why I feel his job is done. If he coudlnt do it with 30m euros, an undefeated champion rage, a new stadium and board backing, then he's never going to be able to do it. And Llorente I stand by it, will not come next summer. We will need to still pay against the odds to get a new striker, perhaps even more than we would have to this summer, if we played our cards right. This was as good a chance as we had and he blew it. Massively.
 

RavaneVialli2

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Aug 4, 2012
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we didn't, but you couldn't know that 2 months ago. Its easy to be the general after the battle.
Yes, it is. But then we have to admit that Marotta was the general that lost us the battle, so he should rightfully be criticised. He risked and failed, which may bear consequences in the upcoming season (but this is now up to Conte and Carrera, not him).
 

baggio

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Dzeko?!

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Vucinic, Giovinco, Dzeko, Bendtner, Matri?

I wouldn't lose Quag to replace him with Borriello or Gila. This mercato will go from 5 to 3 if that happens. Pathetic.
 
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