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[Martin]

Need some tips...

(if you can't be bothered reading the following, my simple question is: how much hard disk space does Ubuntu require to run comfortably ?)

I've been doing the spring cleaning to prepare for my reformat, backing up personal data etc. etc, but I was wondering about a couple of things (actually it might just be one thing, but I'll add more if I think of them along the way)

I'm planning to dual-boot Ubuntu and Windows XP (partly out of necessity, and also because of the added sense of security in the option of falling back on it :embarasse My first question is, how much HD space should I allocate to each partition?

I have a single 60Gb HD, and I download a ridiculous amount of data in the form of documentaries, audio books, video learning systems and the like (which I have to periodically burn to DVD-R's or dump on my portable HD) I'm planning to switch over my torrenting activity to Ubuntu, so I'm assuming I'll have to allocate a large chunk of space to that partition.

I don't know how completely or quickly I'll be transitioning to Ubuntu, but unavoidably I'll still have to use Windows XP for a lot of my Multimedia/Video work (I can't really think of much else that I can't do comfortably once I become accustomed to Ubuntu, but as you know, multimedia stuff takes up a considerable amount of space).

I don't plan to fiddle around with NTFS write access in Ubuntu, so would you guys be able to recommend a sensible amount of disk space to allocate to each partition?

Cheers; I must say I'm looking forward to the experience, and this time I'll be a little more resilient when things don't work the way I've been used to for the past 15 years or so

This is kind of like "we don't know what kind of system we need but could you tell us what we want?"

I use 15gb for my / partition, that pretty much covers every eventuality. But you can run Ubuntu with less, maybe 5gb is a little low, but 10gb should cover you pretty well. Perhaps you can repartition later on, I would check out gparted and friends to see if they can resize cleanly.

 

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[V]

i got some corel draw images which i need to open, for my firm's website, before giving it to the developer. i don't have corel draw, and i don't feel like downloading it. is there anyway to open it linux? gimp maybe? they are .cdr files.

 

[Martin]

So... try it? You know google is your friend

 

[V]

So... try it? You know google is your friend

i don't have linux at work so i can't. i just thought of it now, so i asked maybe you guys know.

 

[Martin]

imagemagick might work too.

 

[JCK]

How about OOo draw?

 

[Chxta]

The above is a screenshot of my system which of course is running Ubuntu 6.10, and an added bonus: I have also installed Window$ XP using VMware so that I am still in touch with my Football Manager

and a lot of other stuff (like Flash MX) that are still not fully developed yet in Linux...

 

[gray]

Thanks for your answers guys

At this point I'm leaning towards vlatko's suggestion of allocating around 15Gb to my XP partition, though I must admit the more I think about it, the less space I want to give WinXP (assuming I'll make the full transition to working primarily in Ubuntu).

I love formatting

Yeah, it's somehow a lot more refreshing than physically tidying a place up

This is kind of like "we don't know what kind of system we need but could you tell us what we want?"

Rubbish! Don't let the long-windedness of my post fool you into thinking that I was asking you guys to make all my decisions for me. I just wasn't sure what would be the sensible thing to do in terms of re-allocating my download dump space.

I use 15gb for my / partition, that pretty much covers every eventuality. But you can run Ubuntu with less, maybe 5gb is a little low, but 10gb should cover you pretty well. Perhaps you can repartition later on, I would check out gparted and friends to see if they can resize cleanly.

Yeah, I know I can always resize my partitions later on, but I'm sure you understand how much more satisfying it would be to get it right and leave things as they are As I mentioned, I don't just want to allocate enough space for Ubuntu to run comfortably; I want to have enough space to be able to torrent like mad in Ubuntu, but have enough space to be able to do video editing etc. in WinXP.

btw I upgraded to Firefox 2.0 earlier today, and I've noticed that Ctrl+S brings up history now, instead of being the shortcut to submitting a post >.< Must sleep now, but it's annoying that I have to manually work around that

 

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Thanks for your answers guys

At this point I'm leaning towards vlatko's suggestion of allocating around 15Gb to my XP partition, though I must admit the more I think about it, the less space I want to give WinXP (assuming I'll make the full transition to working primarily in Ubuntu).


Yeah, it's somehow a lot more refreshing than physically tidying a place up


Rubbish! Don't let the long-windedness of my post fool you into thinking that I was asking you guys to make all my decisions for me. I just wasn't sure what would be the sensible thing to do in terms of re-allocating my download dump space.

Yeah, I know I can always resize my partitions later on, but I'm sure you understand how much more satisfying it would be to get it right and leave things as they are As I mentioned, I don't just want to allocate enough space for Ubuntu to run comfortably; I want to have enough space to be able to torrent like mad in Ubuntu, but have enough space to be able to do video editing etc. in WinXP.

btw I upgraded to Firefox 2.0 earlier today, and I've noticed that Ctrl+S brings up history now, instead of being the shortcut to submitting a post >.< Must sleep now, but it's annoying that I have to manually work around that

Here's what I do..
Give 15 gb to Ubuntu
Give 10 to XP
and partition the rest as a FAT32 partition to be shared by both

 

[Martin]

Yeah, I know I can always resize my partitions later on, but I'm sure you understand how much more satisfying it would be to get it right and leave things as they are As I mentioned, I don't just want to allocate enough space for Ubuntu to run comfortably; I want to have enough space to be able to torrent like mad in Ubuntu, but have enough space to be able to do video editing etc. in WinXP.

To be honest, this is like software engineering. There's no way you can make decisions that will hold years ahead in time and 'get it right'. Because needs change, you may find out that you love Ubuntu and you want to lose Windows altogether, and you may decide you hate linux and you want just Windows. Or that you want to triple boot with Solaris or whatever. There is no way to know right now, your needs change. So the only way you can 'get it right' now is to partition a certain way and vow never to change your usage patterns.

btw I upgraded to Firefox 2.0 earlier today, and I've noticed that Ctrl+S brings up history now, instead of being the shortcut to submitting a post >.< Must sleep now, but it's annoying that I have to manually work around that

Since when is Ctrl+S not Save?

 

[gray]

Here's what I do..
Give 15 gb to Ubuntu
Give 10 to XP
and partition the rest as a FAT32 partition to be shared by both

Actually I was considering that, but the whole sharing business is a little too pussy-foot for my liking

j/k I'll keep it in mind, but for some reason I'd feel better being more black and white about it

 

[JCK]

Yeah, I know I can always resize my partitions later on, but I'm sure you understand how much more satisfying it would be to get it right and leave things as they are As I mentioned, I don't just want to allocate enough space for Ubuntu to run comfortably; I want to have enough space to be able to torrent like mad in Ubuntu, but have enough space to be able to do video editing etc. in WinXP.

btw I upgraded to Firefox 2.0 earlier today, and I've noticed that Ctrl+S brings up history now, instead of being the shortcut to submitting a post >.< Must sleep now, but it's annoying that I have to manually work around that

I have formatted/re-structured my hard disk four times in the last week, and more than eight times since I started using Linux back in August

By the way, it is Alt-S that submits a post It also sends messages in almsot all IM clients.

 

[gray]

To be honest, this is like software engineering. There's no way you can make decisions that will hold years ahead in time and 'get it right'. Because needs change, you may find out that you love Ubuntu and you want to lose Windows altogether, and you may decide you hate linux and you want just Windows. Or that you want to triple boot with Solaris or whatever. There is no way to know right now, your needs change. So the only way you can 'get it right' now is to partition a certain way and vow never to change your usage patterns.

Bah! I was hardly talking about having a rigid system for the next few years

I just don't want to be thinking "I should've allocated an extra 10Gb this way or that" a few hours after I've got it set up.

Since when is Ctrl+S not Save?

Alt+S, my bad

 

[Martin]

Bah! I was hardly talking about having a rigid system for the next few years

I just don't want to be thinking "I should've allocated an extra 10Gb this way or that" a few hours after I've got it set up.

Hours So you mean to tell me that you're unable to make a firm decision you won't regret within hours? My, you don't like making decisions do you

 

[gray]

Hours So you mean to tell me that you're unable to make a firm decision you won't regret within hours? My, you don't like making decisions do you

Martin, it's much too late on my side of the world for you to be picking apart my words like this for what it's worth, I love making decisions, but it never hurts to get some outside wisdom before I do

btw can anyone recommend some software I can use in Ubuntu that will provide similar functionality to the following screenie? I take a lot of notes and jot down a lot of things on the fly, so I want to be able to click on the relevant category and take my notes quickly and with no bells or whistles added.

(btw incase you were wondering, the magic tricks thing is to keep my elementary school English Academy students entertained)

 

[Martin]

Yeah, I've seen a bunch of note taking programs in linux, none that I actually liked myself. I don't remember what they were called, only Tomboy, which will ship with the next Gnome.

 

[gray]

Yeah, I've seen a bunch of note taking programs in linux, none that I actually liked myself. I don't remember what they were called, only Tomboy, which will ship with the next Gnome.

Hrmm ok, I'll check that out.

what programs would you recommend for the following?

* music player (I currently use Winamp)
* vid\media player (do you still swear by MPlayer?)
* bittorrent client
* cd/dvd burner
* FTP client
* IM client
* eye candy like desktop widgets that I'll inevitably remove after a couple of days when I realise they're not worth the memory

btw I figured out the posting thing: it's alt+shift+s (which is really retarded)

 

[V]

music player (I currently use Winamp) - you have not heard of amaroK? how fast do you fall in love?
vid\media player (do you still swear by MPlayer?) we all do. though i like KMplayer too
bittorrent client - azureus
cd/dvd burner - K3B for cd/DVD
ftp client - sorry don't use it
IM client - Kopete



btw, ever since fm was released i never booted linux once. anyway yesterday i wanted to try and open those .cdr files i have so i went to boot mandriva. after selecting it in grub, the verbose mode starts and it gets stuck at starting alsa emu10k1 and won't go forward... wtf??

so be careful jeeks, mandriva gets broken if you don't use it everyday.

 

[V]

@ chxta; is VMware free?

 

[gray]

you have not heard of amaroK? how fast do you fall in love?

Yep, I've heard of amaroK, and I've only heard good things about it

IM client - Kopete

Thanks for the recommendation. What are the major differences that you're aware of between Kopete, Gaim and Trillian (actually, is there a Trillian client for Linux?)

Also, would it be possible for me to run Internet Explorer and MSN Messenger in Linux?





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