Libya 2011 Demonstrations (30 Viewers)

[Fred]

I'm sorry but I can't follow your logic

You probably won't

I just think we did enough, and we got closure, no point in disrespecting his body any further.

I think you may have misunderstood me. With a proper burial I meant Islamic burial. With a namaze-janaza and an Imam. I didn't mean that he should get a marked grave (Could lead to shirk)

If he's a muslim or not is actually up for debate. Like i said not because of his actions, but because of stuff he used to say about religion.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

No, look, I'm not saying that you should disrespect his dead body, what I'm saying is that it's no big deal when you kill him like that.

she does make a good point... as always lol

 

[Fred]

Because what happened in Libya suddenly became "Islamic Awakening" but it's still Zionists funding the protesters in Syria

I was surprised that your government never really supported him during the revolution. Guess they knew the guy was mad, and there was no use betting on him

No, look, I'm not saying that you should disrespect his dead body, what I'm saying is that it's no big deal when you kill him like that.

I know what you're saying. I also believe as a general rule that prisoners should not be killed. But like i said before, he fell in the hands of Misrata rebels, there was always going to be one outcome, and i cannot blame them at all.

 

[ReBeL]

I will always blame anyone who kills himself to get a revenge, even if I understand him.

I will also always blame anyone who bombs himself to get a revenge by killing civilians and I can't even understand that.

You are mixing things up I'm afraid even though I personally hate such headlines and pictures on the papers.

I'm talking about the concept of revenge in general.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I was surprised that your government never really supported him during the revolution. Guess they knew the guy was mad, and there was no use betting on him



I know what you're saying. I also believe as a general rule that prisoners should not be killed. But like i said before, he fell in the hands of Misrata rebels, there was always going to be one outcome, and i cannot blame them at all.

hoori's point is one of consistency, and she does make a point. Furthermore, there's a difference between understanding why one would act a certain way and not blaming them for it. Regardless of what he did, his killing cannot be blameless since he gave up.

 

[IrishZebra]

Because what happened in Libya suddenly became "Islamic Awakening" but it's still Zionists funding the protesters in Syria

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Seriously considering a trip to Libya in 2013

 

[Fred]

hoori's point is one of consistency, and she does make a point. Furthermore, there's a difference between understanding why one would act a certain way and not blaming them for it. Regardless of what he did, his killing cannot be blameless since he gave up.

She does make a point, and she probably is right. Still, you're discounting human emotion, they went through too much, only in a platonic world would Gedaffi come out alive. I can't blame them for it, i didn't go through half the pain or loss they went through, yet i probably would have done the same thing. Can't imagine what it would have been like for them.

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Seriously considering a trip to Libya in 2013

 

[GordoDeCentral]

She does make a point, and she probably is right. Still, you're discounting human emotion, they went through too much, only in a platonic world would Gedaffi come out alive. I can't blame them for it, i didn't go through half the pain or loss they went through, yet i probably would have done the same thing. Can't imagine what it would have been like for them.

i understand but i blame, and its not blame because they re not 'justified' but rather the precedence it sets. what better way to gain legitimacy for a new system if everything is done in the proper legal way.

 

[Cheesio]

Fred i agree with, and that's what i said that what's he done justify the killing, but the conflicting reports and how first they say they got him alive, and after a while he was killed, and the official statement afterward was that it was perhaps freindy fire from his troops. It's all fishy, and i for matter suspect that the west who wanted him dead. After all they were the one who found him if the report about bombing his parade are true. My freind i understand you and i'm happy that Lybia are free now and hope that a better era is awaiting. But i can't rejoice the killing of a men even if he's the biggest of tyrans especially that way and afterall that's what our religion tell us.
Those people were caught in the moment wether they were instructed by higher power to do so or no, it's better now for all the lybians so they can start a new life and don't go through a painfull trial wich will ended up by his execution either way, but i would've been interested to hear what he got to say, and that for me would be beneficial in long run, it's a closed page now and Lybia have more issues to worry about and i hope they come out from all of this better than Iraq.

To a free Lybia without Alcohol OFC.

 

[ReBeL]

i understand but i blame, and its not blame because they re not 'justified' but rather the precedence it sets. what better way to gain legitimacy for a new system if everything is done in the proper legal way.

Nobody can expect that people can trust the legal ways soon as they are still shocked from the legal ways in handling Mubarak's case.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Nobody can expect that people can trust the legal ways soon as they are still shocked from the legal ways in handling Mubarak's case.

if thats the case then why did they leave their house in the first place, if theres no hope for rule of law might as well stick with ghaddafi

 

[Fred]

i understand but i blame, and its not blame because they re not 'justified' but rather the precedence it sets. what better way to gain legitimacy for a new system if everything is done in the proper legal way.

Gedaffi being alive was going to threaten stability in Libya for sure. Ideally he would have tried to fight back and got killed in the shooting. But ya, as a general principle i don't disagree with either you or Hoori

Fred i agree with, and that's what i said that what's he done justify the killing, but the conflicting reports and how first they say they got him alive, and after a while he was killed, and the official statement afterward was that it was perhaps freindy fire from his troops. It's all fishy, and i for matter suspect that the west who wanted him dead. After all they were the one who found him if the report about bombing his parade are true. My freind i understand you and i'm happy that Lybia are free now and hope that a better era is awaiting. But i can't rejoice the killing of a men even if he's the biggest of tyrans especially that way and afterall that's what our religion tell us.
Those people were caught in the moment wether they were instructed by higher power to do so or no, it's better now for all the lybians so they can start a new life and don't go through a painfull trial wich will ended up by his execution either way, but i would've been interested to hear what he got to say, and that for me would be beneficial in long run, it's a closed page now and Lybia have more issues to worry about and i hope they come out from all of this better than Iraq.

To a free Lybia without Alcohol OFC.

Fair enough

 

[ReBeL]

if thats the case then why did they leave their house in the first place, if theres no hope for rule of law might as well stick with ghaddafi

Nob. They can apply the law in the new Libya. The new Libya can't be started with that idiot alive.

 

[JuveJay]

I thought Western values are not into the revenge that much

There's only one paper who say that in the title...The Sun lol.

 

[JuveJay]

Funny that everyone wants a piece of this victory

That's just regular news reporting. Gaddafi is far more well known in Britain because of Lockerbie, also worldwide, otherwise he'd just be another overthrown dictator from a country most couldn't point to on a map.

 

[Fred]

That's just regular news reporting. Gaddafi is far more well known in Britain because of Lockerbie, also worldwide, otherwise he'd just be another overthrown dictator from a country most couldn't point to on a map.

So true.

Whatever the reason is, he's hurt a lot of people, naturally people are glad he's gone.

 

[Fred]

Jon Stewart


http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-october-20-2011/no-amor-qaddafi

 

[IrishZebra]

Tabloids sensationalising news

 

[Fred]

Lol Condoleeza recounting her experience of meeting Gedaffi. Remember his weird fetish

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...ndoleeza-rice-recounts-encounter-with-gadhafi

 

[K.O.]

Jon Stewart


http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-october-20-2011/no-amor-qaddafi

The Dic-Tip part cracked me up

Jon Stewart