Libya 2011 Demonstrations (2 Viewers)

delrey

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Jan 5, 2009
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What mistake? Do you bear living in a country that is being dealt with as the private farm of a corrupt family?
You Arabs are the funiest people, you are 30 years late. :lol: You wana eradicate corruption and bring democracy? :lol: As i said, maybe in 30 years you would understand that that cant be done and that democracy is fraud.
 
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ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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You Arabs are the funiest people, you are 30 years late. :lol: You wana eradicate corruption and bring democracy? :lol: As i said, maybe in 30 years you would understand that that cant be done and that democracy is fraud.
And do you think Serbia had the utmost democracy to come and bash it? Tito was worse than our dictators, my dear...
 

delrey

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Jan 5, 2009
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And do you think Serbia had the utmost democracy to come and bash it? Tito was worse than our dictators, my dear...
We didn't choose Tito, he was instaled by the England.
When you have 2 evils, you choose the lesser one. I never said that Gadafi is new Muhamed or something, nobody is perfect.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Ghaddaffi gave up his pseudo-socialism by ~2000 the latest though, didn't he?

Genuine question, you probably know more about that than I do :D
He opened up a bit after the Iraq invasion, but we were still one of the most socialist countries in the planet. There was virtually no functioning private sector, fuel and basic food supplies were heavily subsidized by the government, over 80% of the labor force was working for the government or government owned enterprises.

Although if you asked Geddaffi, he used to say he wasn't a Socialist, he called his economic and political theory, the third universal theory, which according to him solved the problems of Capitalism and Communism :D
 

only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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He opened up a bit after the Iraq invasion, but we were still one of the most socialist countries in the planet. There was virtually no functioning private sector, fuel and basic food supplies were heavily subsidized by the government, over 80% of the labor force was working for the government or government owned enterprises.

Although if you asked Geddaffi, he used to say he wasn't a Socialist, he called his economic and political theory, the third universal theory, which according to him solved the problems of Capitalism and Communism :D
What the situation in Lybia Fred, I know it's a mess but could you explain a bit about it ?

And what about that General Haftar, can he be trusted. Or just another ghadafi in the making ?
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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What the situation in Lybia Fred, I know it's a mess but could you explain a bit about it ?

And what about that General Haftar, can he be trusted. Or just another ghadafi in the making ?

I assume you're asking about the political situation.

Well it's very complicated, in general there are two main parties of the conflict. One led by Hafter in the East, which is comprised of loose alliances of groups whose interests are aligned; many of them are from the former military, some are just people that are against Islamists, federalists who want the East to have more independence. Also allied with them are the powerful militia's from the city of Zintan which is in the West.

The other side of the conflict is a loose alliance of Misratans(which is probably militarily the strongest group in Libya right now), Zawiya and some areas of the Capital Tripoli.

The media sometimes try to portray it as an ideological conflict between Islamists(led by Misratans) and the Military(led by Haftar). I can tell you that all that is just for show, it's just two sides who are fighting for power and control over Libya's riches. Both have completely destroyed the Libya, and use similar tactics to those used by the Geddaffi regime. Unfortunately the revolution hasn't really changed anything in Libya other than whose in control.

Haftar is another Gedaffi in the making, but so are the leaders of the other side of the conflict. All of them are war criminals, and none of them can be trusted.
 

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