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Catenaccio

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Jul 15, 2002
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OK...I saw the game and the celebration. Honestly, Kean's celebration was not even provocative at all - he just had his arms wide open and said nothing. I have seen much more provocative celebrations.

The more I think about it though.....if you insult a player that is one thing, but if you abuse someone purely on the basis of the color of their skin, that is totally unacceptable and Kean should not feel an ounce of guilt for that celebration.

Bonucci needs to apologise and the club needs to come out and say that the comments of Bonucci do not represents the views and philosophy of the club. Deep down I don't think Bonucci is an asshole or racist....just incredibly stupid.

Our PR is getting damaged on this.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
36,953
The worst part is that instead of attacking and talking about fans and the president of Cagliari, this is JUST about Juventus and Bonucci
Why would it not be? Serie A is KNOWN for it's racist presidents/crowds, regardless of ethnic backgrounds, from se satelli chants to calling Zlatan zingaro.
That is no surprise.
However a player not supporting his teammate in a moment like this, and to go on place half the blame on his teammate for being racially berated. That's quite serious. It gives room for the public to question the morality of the club and the players here.
 

Xperd

'Toli Throater
Jun 1, 2012
32,620
If the Juventus management has any balls, they would either suspend him or fine him.


We are copping an incredible amount of negative reaction due to this disgusting twat.

Seriously it won't be a good look on us if we least bit fine him here.
 

He-Man

Senior Member
Mar 1, 2013
1,260
It gives room for the public to question the morality of the club and the players here.

Yes, I understand it, but this is not the way. Bonucci behaved like DEBIL but that doesnt change the fact that WHO has been racist. And here is silence. Am I surprised? no, which doesnt mean it should be like that!
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
41,973
Why would it not be? Serie A is KNOWN for it's racist presidents/crowds, regardless of ethnic backgrounds, from se satelli chants to calling Zlatan zingaro.
That is no surprise.
However a player not supporting his teammate in a moment like this, and to go on place half the blame on his teammate for being racially berated. That's quite serious. It gives room for the public to question the morality of the club and the players here.
The club? And players here? Kean should leave?

Are you trolling here?

It’s one imbecile making a ridiculously moronic comment.

Every other teammate who has spoken about it, condemned the Cagliari fans exclusively, his coach condemned the Cagliari fans exclusively.

Bonucci being a dumbass is hardly indicative of some morally bankrupt, racist culture pervading the club.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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How about before crucifying him we give him a chance to apologize or clarify his remarks and just ban him from interviews cause he is a bonehead.

What he said was dumb and insensitive but the comments themselves are not that serious and public outrage mob will soon move on.

And before you get on a high horse dont forget majority of you are still supporting Ronaldo through allegations that he anally raped someone.
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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Ronaldo's case are simply allegations, bad comparison.

It's funny that some fans excuse Bonucci of all sins on the basis of him being a Juve player. Wake up it's more important than a silly sport
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
36,953
The club? And players here? Kean should leave?

Are you trolling here?

It’s one imbecile making a ridiculously moronic comment.

Every other teammate who has spoken about it, condemned the Cagliari fans exclusively, his coach condemned the Cagliari fans exclusively.

Bonucci being a dumbass is hardly indicative of some morally bankrupt, racist culture pervading the club.
The Club would get questioned by the public or would be subjected to negative press (we used to it), not saying it's the clubs fault.

Only takes 1 idiot to reaffirm to the entire footballing world that Serie A, including Juventus is behind the times, doesn't mean it's a fair representation of the club. Agnelli has on numerous occasions tried to propose/implement some changes into the league to address issues like these but obviously it isn't deemed as a priority by the league. Our club is lightyears ahead of the entire country itself.

As for Kean leaving, this is obviously going to be a reccuring thing in the future (the racist chants/retarded comments), if he wanted to leave just because of this then by all means go ahead.
 

Mr Chocolate

Rubba Band Business
Dec 23, 2012
6,676
How about before crucifying him we give him a chance to apologize or clarify his remarks and just ban him from interviews cause he is a bonehead.

What he said was dumb and insensitive but the comments themselves are not that serious and public outrage mob will soon move on.

And before you get on a high horse dont forget majority of you are still supporting Ronaldo through allegations that he anally raped someone.
He should have said something already, even his insta story "apology", where he doesn't actually apologies was insufficient, he obviously is braindead but he still deserves the criticism he is getting, especially as one of our senior players.

Also, When Ronaldo Anally rapes someone on camera as opposed to some random claim then we will start crucifying him, you really thing that if some random person called up a newspaper and said Bonucci was a heavy racist people wouldn't defend him?
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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He should have said something already, even his insta story "apology", where he doesn't actually apologies was insufficient, he obviously is braindead but he still deserves the criticism he is getting, especially as one of our senior players.

Also, When Ronaldo Anally rapes someone on camera as opposed to some random claim then we will start crucifying him, you really thing that if some random person called up a newspaper and said Bonucci was a heavy racist people wouldn't defend him?
But would you give ronaldo that same benefit of doubt if he were not a juventus player? What if he joined inter?

And no the ronaldo accusations are not as baseless as you claim. He acknowledges having sex with her, he paid her hundreds of thousands to keep quiet, that is far different from some rando calling a newspaper to rreport it.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
41,973
Ronaldo's case are simply allegations, bad comparison.

It's funny that some fans excuse Bonucci of all sins on the basis of him being a Juve player. Wake up it's more important than a silly sport
There’s almost no one on the forum excusing Bonucci’s behaviour. The vast vast majority here are crucifying him for his comments and rightfully so.
 
Apr 29, 2006
3,158
Any evidence to back this stuff up, chief
What exactly are you on about? Balomath 101 or Italy being a country with a big racist problems? Perhaps you think Mino a racist, but I think of him a pro - only sees green.

Most of the players aren't very educated in respect of their age. Juve, generally, is a different place in this regard.

As for other nationalities educating Italians on life and virtues, including racism...The less said, the better.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,033
What exactly are you on about? Balomath 101 or Italy being a country with a big racist problems? Perhaps you think Mino a racist, but I think of him a pro - only sees green.

Most of the players aren't very educated in respect of their age. Juve, generally, is a different place in this regard.

As for other nationalities educating Italians on life and virtues, including racism...The less said, the better.
Do you have any evidence that Kean and Balo can’t count how much they make?
 

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