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Afghan_juventus

Afghan_juventus

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Suarez leading Atletico to a title and Rakitic scoring to put Sevilla 2-0 up vs Barca in the Copa semis.

You cannot write this shit :lol::lol::lol:

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Luis Suarez was and will always be the #3 forward of this generation, in my opinion. That 2013-14 Liverpool season alone was enough for him to earn that spot, 31 goals with 0 pens in the Prem for ROGER'S LIVERPOOL was just outrageous. That team was truly a one man army if there ever was one and Liverpool's horrid following season was more than evidence of that. What he's done for Uruguay, Barca and now Atletico just further solidifies his position. Had he been the focal point of an elite team throughout his career, Suarez today would have a similar goal record to both Messi and Ronaldo. His 59 goals in 53 games in 2016 really shows allot in that regard. That was the one season in which Messi decided to take a more reserved playmaking role and as a result Suarez had by far his greatest goal scoring season.

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I watched quite a few Liverpool games in 2014 just to see this guy in action. Truly just went crazy.
 
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Afghan_juventus

Afghan_juventus

Ismail
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May 23, 2013
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Strickland said:
..and after that 13/14 season he went to Brazil and took a bite out of a player for the third time in his career lol. a great great forward, but arguably an even greater idiot
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Yeah without a doubt he's insane. But as you said, still a brilliant footballer.

But with that said, he might be an evil genius because Uruguay scored the goal to advance from the group shortly after his bite.....

He also scored a last minute goal after biting Ivanovic.....
 
Ventus

Ventus

U.S.J.
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Mar 10, 2009
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Afghan_juventus said:

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Suarez leading Atletico to a title and Rakitic scoring to put Sevilla 2-0 up vs Barca in the Copa semis.

You cannot write this shit :lol::lol::lol:

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Luis Suarez was and will always be the #3 forward of this generation, in my opinion. That 2013-14 Liverpool season alone was enough for him to earn that spot, 31 goals with 0 pens in the Prem for ROGER'S LIVERPOOL was just outrageous. That team was truly a one man army if there ever was one and Liverpool's horrid following season was more than evidence of that. What he's done for Uruguay, Barca and now Atletico just further solidifies his position. Had he been the focal point of an elite team throughout his career, Suarez today would have a similar goal record to both Messi and Ronaldo. His 59 goals in 53 games in 2016 really shows allot in that regard. That was the one season in which Messi decided to take a more reserved playmaking role and as a result Suarez had by far his greatest goal scoring season.

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I watched quite a few Liverpool games in 2014 just to see this guy in action. Truly just went crazy.
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People here were comparing him to Higuain lol. I knew he still had 1 or 2 years left in him. Never mind...
 
Dostoevsky

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
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Anybody follows Real? How's Vinicius doing? Is he a new crazy talent we're anticipating?

I gotta say it's quite impressive he had 100 matches already for Real and he's only 20. You don't see that quite often when it comes to Real M. His numbers are that impressive, though, but I guess hopes are very high since he's getting this kind of trust. Or it might be because Real M is at the weird stage of not being strong as they used to which leaves more room for such cases.
 
JuveJay

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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He's lacking a lot of end product, bit of a show pony up to this point. Also apparently upset some players and Zidane with questionable professionalism.

I suppose you could say these are things you see in a lot of young players in the modern game, but you can't arse about at a club like Real Madrid and go far.
 
Valerio.

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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FC Barcelona and Real Madrid will be forced to pay back illegal state aid, EU’s highest court rules beneficial tax arrangements Spanish football clubs enjoyed were against the law


FC Barcelona and Real Madrid will be forced to pay back millions of euros in illegal state aid after the EU’s highest court ruled Brussels was right to declare that beneficial tax arrangements they enjoyed for a quarter of a century were illegal.

The decision by the European Court of Justice upholds previous rulings by the European Commission and comes as Barcelona, the world’s highest-earning football club, is enduring one of the biggest crises in its history.

This week police arrested the club’s former president, its current chief executive and its general counsel, in connection with a separate legal case ahead of a vote on Sunday to decide its next president. Barcelona, which recorded a loss of €100m last year, also has to contend with a debt pile of more than €1bn.

In 2016 Margrethe Vestager, the EU’s competition chief supremo, ordered four Spanish football clubs to pay back tens of millions of euros received since the 1990s in the form of sweetheart property deals, tax breaks and soft loans.

FC Barcelona subsequently contested the decision before the General Court, the EU’s second-highest tribunal, which annulled the commission’s judgment. However, after a final appeal from Brussels the ECJ ruled in favour of the EU.

In its decision on Thursday — which is final — the ECJ deemed the tax scheme “liable to favour clubs operating as non-profit entities over clubs operating in the form of public limited sports companies”, holding that it could therefore qualify as illegal state aid under EU rules.

The General Court had previously annulled Brussels’ decision over what it said was lack of sufficient evidence that the tax arrangements offered to the four football clubs, which also include CA Osasuna and Athletic Bilbao, were illegal.

But the commission had questioned the court’s “heavy burden of proof” on regulators in its appeal, arguing that a lower tax rate was obviously more favourable than a higher one.

The ECJ argued that the difficulty in assessing the extent of state aid — because of the complexity of tax deductions — did not preclude the commission from banning government practices that it considered gave sports clubs unfair advantages.

It said: “The impossibility of determining, at the time of the adoption of an aid scheme, the exact amount, per tax year, of the advantage actually conferred on each of its beneficiaries, cannot prevent the commission from finding that scheme was capable, from that moment, of conferring an advantage on those beneficiaries.”

The Spanish government said on Thursday it had “absolute respect” for the court’s decision. FC Barcelona and Real Madrid did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The judgment will be seen as a big win for regulators in Brussels who have for years been trying to stop highly successful commercial clubs from freeriding on the back of taxpayers.

The European Commission said on Thursday it noted “the judgment by the Court of Justice to follow the Commission’s arguments”.

Thursday’s ruling is the second time Brussels has won an appeal of its state aid decisions in recent weeks. Last month judges at the General Court rejected a legal challenge by budget airline Ryanair to state aid given to rivals on discriminatory grounds.

At present Barcelona is dealing with the fallout of what the Spanish media dubs Barçagate — allegations, denied by the club, that it corruptly hired outside groups to defame former president Josep Maria Bartomeu’s adversaries on Facebook.

Bartomeu was temporarily detained by the Catalan police earlier this week. He, the club, and other individuals in the case, which is being investigated by a Barcelona court, have all denied any wrongdoing
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Elvin

Elvin

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Nov 25, 2005
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Wow just wow. And still no one will ever call them cheaters. Fuck Spain seriously. Theyve been doing this forever.
 
s4tch

s4tch

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Wow fuck these two clubs
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and also the spanish state for letting this happen to those somehow privileged clubs.

but honestly these doesn't look like huge sums. if i understand it correctly, marca wrote that these four clubs' tax benefits were less than 5 million euros per club over all those years:

https://www.marca.com/futbol/primera-division/2021/03/04/6040b83dca4741e0188b45d4.html
La Comisión entendía que esos clubes se habían beneficiado desde 1990 de un tipo impositivo del 25 % en lugar del 30 % y reclamó a España en 2016 que recuperase hasta cinco millones de euros por club en concepto de impuestos no abonados.

they will hardly go bankrupt over this only. clubs aren't paying too much of corporate tax anyway (iirc juve usually paid less than 10m in recent years), a couple of percents won't make or break a budget. imo the spanish tv money distribution scheme is a much bigger privilege for the top 3 (atletico included).
 
Valerio.

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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s4tch said:
and also the spanish state for letting this happen to those somehow privileged clubs.

but honestly these doesn't look like huge sums. if i understand it correctly, marca wrote that these four clubs' tax benefits were less than 5 million euros per club over all those years:

https://www.marca.com/futbol/primera-division/2021/03/04/6040b83dca4741e0188b45d4.html
La Comisión entendía que esos clubes se habían beneficiado desde 1990 de un tipo impositivo del 25 % en lugar del 30 % y reclamó a España en 2016 que recuperase hasta cinco millones de euros por club en concepto de impuestos no abonados.

they will hardly go bankrupt over this only. clubs aren't paying too much of corporate tax anyway (iirc juve usually paid less than 10m in recent years), a couple of percents won't make or break a budget. imo the spanish tv money distribution scheme is a much bigger privilege for the top 3 (atletico included).
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well the biggest scandal about that wasn't Real Madrid selling a propriety (training grounds) to Madrid city for 100m and then the city gave them back either for free or the likes?
Also the article isn't talking about taxes only but loans from spanish banks on no interests or even worse.
Another thing I heard people complain about was that spanish banks gave money to Barca and Real when Europe had to help those banks in tight spot.
Basically they were giving money to football teams while they needed a bail out from Europe to stay alive
 
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