L' Angolo del nuovo manager...lasciate ogni speranza voi ch'entrate (38 Viewers)

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He-Man

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Mar 1, 2013
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My friend is from Spain and they were showing Pep on TV now.

The journalist asked him if he's happy in City and if his Spanish fans will watch him in sky blue next year again. He replied: "I am very happy in City. I want to stay but that's up to the club. The FFP situation is very complicated. I want to stay, I do, but if I were to leave I will do it only for a historically important club in other top league in the world.
Then the journalist said: "Barca?" Pep replies: "Barca is a big club". Journalist: "Juventus, Bayern?". Pep: "Bayern already has a coach" and he smiled. PSG? "I said only City or top leagues".

Bad news for City and good news for us!

Stary idealne puentujesz to całe gówno . Za każdym jebanym razem. Zawsze w punkt. Pozdro.
 
Jun 6, 2015
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I'm curious to know if Sarri boyz settle for less in life in general or just with their standards and expectations for Juve
I'll tell you a short story about what has created this SarriBoyz phenomenon.

After Barca and Spain NT dominated football for a short while with their short passing style of play. Quite a few people became fans of that brand of football, even more people became closet fans afraid to admit that they no longer accepted any other way of playing. These closet fans who at the same time supported Juve watched for three years in awe when Napoli, a poor mans version of said style, absolutely dominated the ball possession stats against Cagliari and Chievo. They were aching inside and barely were able to enjoy the many victories and trophies Juve accumulated through those years. Each day they prayed for their suffering to end. Finally after much suffering and praying it seems their prayers have been answered. They can come out of their closets and enjoy life again after years of pure darkness.
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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I never had any problems with Sarri defense, hes not one of those careless attacking coaches. He was a defensive coach in Empoli. He uses the material he has and let him guide him. But when I say naive and doesnt adapt I don't mean it's too careless defensively, its that his attacking tactic is fairly rudimentary and set in stone, it may look nice, but it's not really effective in big games or moments. You neutralize it and he will rarely throw a tactical trick to mix.

And reality shows that because too many of the big games in either leagues did not work out in his favour at all. It's not a coincidence his record in these games are so worryingly unsuccessful. And we are getting this coach for CL, a competition where the conditions are pretty mixh all games are tense big pressure games? And I'm not supposed to be worried about this hire?
He was naive and too much of a "beautiful football" ideologue at first at Napoli. That defense definitely could've been better and was in the end. He did play a proactive game at Empoli Giampaolo style but being a small club only to a certain degree. He is or becomes aware of the limitations.

Scoring goals/attacking was never an issue at Napoli. It was getting caught during transitions. Same was the case at Chelsea (that and Chelsea players being thick) after early good start (with Jorginho being main culprit) before he changed things around.

He isn't among my top 4 preferences. You can worry about his comments during pressure situations (though much of that would be curbed at Juve, we've rules against moronic complaints) and you can worry about him still being relatively unknown in Euro competitions (alternatives don't really offer guarantees either), but I disagree about judging based on Napoli failures in Europe bc that had more to do with the club.

All we know is that a balanced proactive style favors the competition, and we needed a change (motivation and addressing injuries perhaps being even bigger necessities). And I wouldn't be surprised if Sarri leads to Pep in a couple of years.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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I'll tell you a short story about what has created this SarriBoyz phenomenon.

After Barca and Spain NT dominated football for a short while with their short passing style of play. Quite a few people became fans of that brand of football, even more people became closet fans afraid to admit that they no longer accepted any other way of playing. These closet fans who at the same time supported Juve watched for three years in awe when Napoli, a poor mans version of said style, absolutely dominated the ball possession stats against Cagliari and Chievo. They were aching inside and barely were able to enjoy the many victories and trophies Juve accumulated through those years. Each day they prayed for their suffering to end. Finally after much suffering and praying it seems their prayers have been answered. They can come out of their closets and enjoy life again after years of pure darkness.
As funny as this is, the funniest bit is it's no where close to the dominating all consuming style of tiki taka and insanely productive attacking football (the defence is another matter). It flatters to deceive, this so called attacking football of Sarri, let's set aside the not winning titles part of the equation. Goals, the hallmark of attacking "tiki taka" footie, our Juventus outscored his Napoli. And Pep City outscored Chelsea by 33 goals. Yea there is a quality difference in the squad, but the quality difference was not 33 goals...


So clearly this hyper attacking football some are looking forward to is not exactly all that.


Me personally if we get him, I look forward to better passing game, because that he guarantees, but the rest? My expectations will be low. As I would with any coach I consider a stopgap solution. And I would be shocked and pleased if he turned out to be anything more then a stopgap coach.
 
Jan 22, 2016
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No Zidane is not a loser by my standards, where did you get that? Zidane is only a loser with your completely silly standards that make zero sense. No matter how much you dislike it the fact is that the likes of Allegri, Pep and Zidane are proven winners unlike Sarri.

You are the king of making things seem black and white. I really don't think you have much authority on that subject. I think what you don't like is that people (fairly) criticize a coach that you for some reason seem super fond of.

The majority on here regard Sarri as a good coach. You simply yourself make things again seem black and white. He just doesn't belong to the elite category, not yet at least.
At this point you are just giving too much credit to Allegri and putting him into the same bracket as legends like Zidane and Pep , just because he won the one horse league.
Unless he wins CL, he is not even close to those 2.

Winning this league with this team don't make you a proven winner unless your team is Lazio or Atalanta. I'm sure any decent coach would win serie a with Juventus squad.
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
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Why are the Sun reporting that Chelsea have made a U-Turn on Sarri?
Because like I have been saying Sarri isn't leaving Chelsea

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Also note that Sarri is one of the biggest guarantees for retaining Serie A next season (even more so than Pep).

That oddly seems a point of contention for some.
You speak utter nonsense
 
Jun 6, 2015
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At this point you are just giving too much credit to Allegri and putting him into the same bracket as legends like Zidane and Pep , just because he won the one horse league.
Unless he wins CL, he is not even close to those 2.

Winning this league with this team don't make you a proven winner unless your team is Lazio or Atalanta. I'm sure any decent coach would win serie a with Juventus squad.
Actually it does. You become a proven winner by constantly winning stuff. If Sarri wins 5 scudetti and 4 Coppa Italia at Juve he will be a proven winner as well. It's pretty stupid to claim otherwise.
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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I'll tell you a short story about what has created this SarriBoyz phenomenon.

After Barca and Spain NT dominated football for a short while with their short passing style of play. Quite a few people became fans of that brand of football, even more people became closet fans afraid to admit that they no longer accepted any other way of playing. These closet fans who at the same time supported Juve watched for three years in awe when Napoli, a poor mans version of said style, absolutely dominated the ball possession stats against Cagliari and Chievo. They were aching inside and barely were able to enjoy the many victories and trophies Juve accumulated through those years. Each day they prayed for their suffering to end. Finally after much suffering and praying it seems their prayers have been answered. They can come out of their closets and enjoy life again after years of pure darkness.
I've seen only two legit sarribois posting in these chapters in Mark's book, so I assume you're referring to me and likes aka sane posters as sarriboys too.

I hate tiki taka and associated fanboys.

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To make things clear I don't rate Sarri higher than Max. But i believe our squad would benefit from his style.
Talk slowwwly, be loud, repeat often, use short sentences.

Maybe they will eventually get it.

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Actually it does. You become a proven winner by constantly winning stuff. If Sarri wins 5 scudetti and 4 Coppa Italia at Juve he will be a proven winner as well. It's pretty stupid to claim otherwise.
I'd love to see you play checkers.

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Can't get past 5 scudetti. The level of analytical depth lol.
 
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