Kwadwo Asamoah (16 Viewers)

[Klin]

We made a couple off individual errors and our mediocre attack cost us, in particular when Vucinic missed the first leg and we had to play the dreadful Quag-Matri duo.

I didn't see us crushed, unless you just go by the scoreline. If we're going to be realistic we should also add some context.

We weren't crushed, but we never shown we could even slightly threaten their defense, and that's not just because of our average attack.

Our game play is easy to read. Everything goes through Pirlo, and when it won't, it's from our wings. Our left side is dead by default, so press Licht and it's back to square one yet again. Now yes, this could have been improved by a better forward who could make better runs off the ball and someone with a better physical presence next to their defense.

Teams who press us at the back tend to pin us down, almost easily.

 

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[Ahmed]

we were inexperienced, couldn't handle it mentally after going down so early against a powerhouse team.

it will be different this time.

 

[LiquidPLP]

We weren't crushed, but we never shown we could even slightly threaten their defense, and that's not just because of our average attack.

Our game play is easy to read. Everything goes through Pirlo, and when it won't, it's from our wings. Our left side is dead by default, so press Licht and it's back to square one yet again. Now yes, this could have been improved by a better forward who could make better runs off the ball and someone with a better physical presence next to their defense.

Teams who press us at the back tend to pin us down, almost easily.

These are just disadvantages of 3-5-2 which easily becomes 5-3-2 when we're pressed by other team. In return we never try to press but instead we drop back deep and sometimes way too deep. This way we're so easily pinned down.

People have too much expectations when it comes to our wing backs. In 3-5-2 they will never work as some here suppose them to. They have no backup on the wings and that's why they're mostly defensive. In attack they can't succeed because often they're outnumbered and have no backup. One player being on the wing is easily covered. In formations with two players on each wing Licht and Asamoah would rock with decent backup. They could play some one-twos or just make some runs forward. In 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 Licht looked much better in attack than 3-5-2 and it won't change.

 

[Nzoric]

Except when he gets dispossessed. And in the last 2 seasons, he's had the highest dispossession rate in our team.

How many times are you going to make a fool of yourself with this comment?

 

[Gian]

I'll say it again: Bayern were just too good for any team out there. You're talking about a side that won their league with a 20 point advantage, over the other CL finalist, and crushed teams in that process, they barely conceded lol. To be perfectly honest I think it was quite obvious they were gonna win the CL, I haven't seen a side with the determination they played with. Dat pressing, transitions and compactness

 

[Deep C]

I'll say it again: Bayern were just too good for any team out there. You're talking about a side that won their league with a 20 point advantage, over the other CL finalist, and crushed teams in that process, they barely conceded lol. To be perfectly honest I think it was quite obvious they were gonna win the CL, I haven't seen a side with the determination they played with. Dat pressing, transitions and compactness

No no, it's because of 3-5-2.

 

[JuveJay]

We weren't crushed, but we never shown we could even slightly threaten their defense, and that's not just because of our average attack.

Our game play is easy to read. Everything goes through Pirlo, and when it won't, it's from our wings. Our left side is dead by default, so press Licht and it's back to square one yet again. Now yes, this could have been improved by a better forward who could make better runs off the ball and someone with a better physical presence next to their defense.

Teams who press us at the back tend to pin us down, almost easily.

You mean like, say, Tevez and Llorente? I don't understand, are you making a prediction for this season or just going over old ground from last season?

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In 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 Licht looked much better in attack than 3-5-2 and it won't change.

(Serie A)

Lichtsteiner 2011-12
35 games
2 goals
2 assists
5 offsides
111 crosses
14 shots (5 on target)

Lichtsteiner 2012-13
28 games
4 goals
2 assists
8 offsides
94 crosses
23 shots (10 on target)

 

[Klin]

You mean like, say, Tevez and Llorente? I don't understand, are you making a prediction for this season or just going over old ground from last season?

Both. I am excited to see how could this team handle a tough opponent in Europe, but I'm still disappointed we didn't handle our left side problem.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

(Serie A)

Lichtsteiner 2011-12
35 games
2 goals
2 assists
5 offsides
111 crosses
14 shots (5 on target)

Lichtsteiner 2012-13
28 games
4 goals
2 assists
8 offsides
94 crosses
23 shots (10 on target)

It's remarkably easy to discredit about 90% of all posts, isn't it?

 

[Klin]

Lichtsteiner 2011-12
35 games
2 goals
2 assists
5 offsides
111 crosses
14 shots (5 on target)

Lichtsteiner 2012-13
28 games
4 goals
2 assists
8 offsides
94 crosses
23 shots (10 on target)

So in this discussion stats can be used to prove a point, but in others, it's always "stats clearly show a different picture".

Lichtsteiner is a much better full back than he is a wing back. You don't have to show stats to convince otherwise. He is better than the rest of our "wing backs" because we have no proper one in the squad, and he at least compensate for his poor crossing and lack of dribbling by his runs behind the defenders.

 

[JuveJay]

Lichtsteiner is a much better full back than he is a wing back. You don't have to show stats to convince otherwise. He is better than the rest of our "wing backs" because we have no proper one in the squad, and he at least compensate for his poor crossing and lack of dribbling by his runs behind the defenders.

I agree with that, he's a 'real' fullback. What I don't agree with is saying he is a better attacker when played as a fullback. It actually makes no sense, when his job as a wingback is much more attacking.

 

[Klin]

I agree with that, he's a 'real' fullback. What I don't agree with is saying he is a better attacker when played as a fullback. It actually makes no sense, when his job as a wingback is much more attacking.

Agreed.

 

[Hydde]

we were inexperienced, couldn't handle it mentally after going down so early against a powerhouse team.

it will be different this time.

It was not that simple, because we were pummeled in same fashion by the former champions and we fought back. That was in our first game.

But bayern didnt let us do that

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Bayern were/are a lot better than Chelsea were though. They were a footballing powerhouse last season, basically perfect.

 

[JuveJay]

I have a feeling Chelsea are going to be quite ominous this season, but there are big teams who exit early from the CL every season, just the nature of it.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

I have a feeling Chelsea are going to be quite ominous this season, but there are big teams who exit early from the CL every season, just the nature of it.

Agreed. Great coach in Mourinho, he will give them that killer instinct again both in EPL and CL and they're signings have been clever and astute.

 

[j0ker]

Agreed. Great coach in Mourinho, he will give them that killer instinct again both in EPL and CL and they're signings have been clever and astute.

What signings?

*their

 

[gray]

Except when he gets dispossessed. And in the last 2 seasons, he's had the highest dispossession rate in our team.

I won't speak for the rest of his game, but his dispossessions don't come from being outmuscled with his back to goal, but his indecisiveness and poor decision-making.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

What signings?

*their

Yes, their. Me fail English.

Schurlle, De Bruyne (return and is like a brand new signing), possibly Willian. Good quality added to an already stacked team. They are dynamic as fuck.

 

[Tommy]

Yes, their. Me fail English.